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Post by Call on Oct 11, 2017 0:50:32 GMT
I just saw this on my Twitter timeline so did some digging and rumours are swirling around everywhere. Apparently he walked out of Raw last night
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Post by iron maiden on Oct 11, 2017 0:52:21 GMT
Do you blame him? He was holding the CW division together and look how dirty they did him...for Enzo. Enzo.
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Post by Call on Oct 11, 2017 1:00:00 GMT
Don't blame him in the least, it just sucks because he was on such a good run.
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Post by RT on Oct 11, 2017 1:08:13 GMT
I just came here to post this. Here's the source: www.prowrestlingsheet.com/neville-rumor-release-request/The twitter account they source is "meh" at best but ProWrestlingSheets are right more often than not, and they don't source this themselves but rather quote people closer to the situation. So this looks pretty legit. Honestly it makes me fucking sad that Neville would leave, but I don't blame him. He should be a far bigger deal in the WWE than he is. But at the same time, none of this is on Enzo. He's a proven draw and did wonders for 205 Live over the past few weeks.
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Post by iron maiden on Oct 11, 2017 1:44:39 GMT
I get what you are saying about Enzo and I get their idea behind it but Aries wasn't given his fair shake either. I can see why both would ask for their release.
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Post by Krimzon on Oct 11, 2017 1:57:55 GMT
Pigeonholing guys as cruiserweights dooms them in WWE. It would be a shame if they blow it with a guy as good as Neville.
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Post by Ace Levy on Oct 11, 2017 5:25:13 GMT
being put behind Enzo is an insult for anyone! Cant blame Neville if he wants out.
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Post by hbk4life on Oct 11, 2017 7:19:15 GMT
Prolly feels like he could make more money in Japan and the U.K. at this point. I'm disappointed because I wanted to see a slow build to his rematch with Enzo. With the right build that could be an awesome Wrestlemania match but I guess it won't happen now for a number of reasons.
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Post by NATH45 on Oct 11, 2017 7:23:44 GMT
Pigeonholing guys as cruiserweights dooms them in WWE. It would be a shame if they blow it with a guy as good as Neville. Exactly. The difference between he and Chad Gable is 8 lbs. That's it. That's if you absolutely believe that's Neville's shoot weight. Id' argue he's bigger than the 205 limit. There's absolutely no reason why Neville can't be used else where and at a much higher level. If anything, his heel run has shown how much range he actually has.
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Post by Big Pete on Oct 11, 2017 9:48:52 GMT
He could be used, the problem is that he doesn't stand out in the right way. He isn't a great promo, he doesn't have a gimmick (unless you count wearing a cape a gimmick) and unfortunately for him, he's short.
It's a shame because he's an awesome wrestler and easily one of the best the WWE has right now, but that only gets you so far in the company. To them, he's the star of the show nobody watches and they had to go send Enzo to make it relevant.
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Post by SM on Oct 11, 2017 15:36:24 GMT
Honestly this is great news if true. Would love Neville in NJPW.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 18:00:30 GMT
Before he signed he was not confident he deserved to get in. A few years later he's like I can't take this shit! I welcome the return of Jungle PAC.
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Post by spladle125 on Oct 11, 2017 18:59:29 GMT
I am shocked by this as I talked to him last week and he didnt mention anything about being unhappy. Although he did mention that he put in for a a movie
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Post by The Dazz on Oct 11, 2017 19:06:24 GMT
He could be used, the problem is that he doesn't stand out in the right way. He isn't a great promo, he doesn't have a gimmick (unless you count wearing a cape a gimmick) and unfortunately for him, he's short. It's a shame because he's an awesome wrestler and easily one of the best the WWE has right now, but that only gets you so far in the company. To them, he's the star of the show nobody watches and they had to go send Enzo to make it relevant. He's a great promo and hasn't worn a cape since he turned heel. What you talkin about, Big Pete?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 19:14:32 GMT
What was his character before the heel run? Cape. I think that's what he meant. Neville, before turning, was just another good worker in a sea of them.
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Post by Mistress on Oct 11, 2017 21:33:57 GMT
I am shocked by this as I talked to him last week and he didnt mention anything about being unhappy. Although he did mention that he put in for a a movie That was before last night when he was yanked from the main event vs Enzo, in favor of Kalisto.
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Post by Krysys on Oct 11, 2017 21:37:52 GMT
I'm going to wait until more information comes out. This could be blown way out of proportion or maybe he's just pissed about his place on the roster. Hell we all saw his reaction to that shit they put out as merch for him. Time will tell though.
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Post by c on Oct 12, 2017 13:09:06 GMT
Rumors like this usually are not blown out of proportion. The thing with Neville is Pac was big before WWE. If WWE cannot give him what he wants, Japan will for sure. This feel a lot like Cody. While WWE may be the only game in town again, they need to realize people can still opt not to play and still make decent money in Japan and the indy scene.
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Post by KJ on Oct 12, 2017 14:32:44 GMT
I don't get why people are ragging Enzo's push. I hated the guy as a face but he's a fantastic heel. Workrate isn't everything. The entire division has been hotter with him as the focal point than the year it existed before his push.
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Post by c on Oct 12, 2017 18:56:29 GMT
Enzo is a guy people will pay to see get beaten.
Rumors are Neville was not set to work the show at all, so the whole walking out stuff is just not possible. The release rumors do not make much sense unless this is a pay issue. Then suddenly they make a whole lot of sense if he can match his pay working indie dates.
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Post by kbc on Oct 12, 2017 19:44:18 GMT
It always irks the shit out of me when people holler "short people aren't legit heavyweights". Chris Jericho was 5'8 or 5'9. Multiple time world champion. Same thing with Mysterio, Benoit, etc. If I was him, I'd walk too. To go from NXT Heavyweight Champion, to a Cruiserweight title that the audience could give a shit less about while he could be having 5 star matches with AJ Styles, Shinsuke, Mahal, etc is a complete disgrace and a massive waste of his talent and ability.
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Post by Mistress on Oct 12, 2017 20:22:03 GMT
Enzo is a guy people will pay to see get beaten. Rumors are Neville was not set to work the show at all, so the whole walking out stuff is just not possible. The release rumors do not make much sense unless this is a pay issue. Then suddenly they make a whole lot of sense if he can match his pay working indie dates. If what you said are rumors, then him walking off isn't impossible. Neither story has been proven or confirmed yet.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2017 20:26:46 GMT
Can't walk out since he clearly NO SHOWED.
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Post by Mistress on Oct 12, 2017 20:57:40 GMT
He's not on the WM DVD? Damn.... Let him go, WWE....just let him go
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Post by NATH45 on Oct 12, 2017 22:40:25 GMT
Really?
We're a bit dramatic aren't we? Neville held the title for 233 days. Unfortunately for Neville and for people who value not having to endure Enzo Amore, that piece of horse shit gets a reaction. He's over, far beyond that of anyone in the cruiserweight division. As painfully awful he is in the ring, and frustratingly painful his promos - he's over.
Enzo, and he's still a piece of trash, who I'd imagine smells the way he looks, will do more by being an absolute douchebag than 2 guys under 205 lbs just wrestling will ever do in this day and age in the WWE.
The smart booking would have been a slow burner, with Kalisto or whoever they want to elevate picking up wins over Enzo's allies, beating Enzo in tag matches, Enzo winning tag matches by cheating, etc. And build this babyface contender up as the hero of the cruiserweight division who will in a 1 on 1 match defeat Enzo eventually.
Instead they hot-potatoed that ugly, plastic looking title again.
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Post by Mistress on Oct 13, 2017 0:40:31 GMT
Apparently, being cut from the WM33 DVD was also a sore spot for Aries too. I can see why they would want out. Seems not only Impact with issues of paying people what they're worth....
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Post by kbc on Oct 14, 2017 2:20:07 GMT
Well when they mess with people's money, they have a right to be pissed.
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Post by NATH45 on Oct 14, 2017 4:58:59 GMT
I personally think both these guys are drinking their own kool-aid. Neville and Aries that is.
You can understand a Cody Rhodes type situation, a 10 year tenure with the WWE, continually under-utilized and one awful angle or gimmick after the other. And as much as Cody likes to pretend he took a huge gamble, wrestling career or not - Cody Rhodes would have deep pockets.
Neville can be frustrated, it doesn't mean he's right. It's only been the last 10 months, he's done anything of interest. And Aries, he's banking on past performances and his TNA career, there's a sense of entitlement there - I should be cruiserweight champion, because I'm AA. Na. Bobby Roode wasn't great in TNA. The 'IT Factor' gimmick was something of an oxymoron. But he became something interesting in NXT and will have opportunity on the main roster.
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Post by Mistress on Nov 13, 2017 23:32:18 GMT
Update!!!!!!
I still think he should have left
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