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Post by Big Pete on Jul 25, 2020 9:24:58 GMT
I didn't notice the 1986 date, there's still hope!
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Post by X-zero on Jul 25, 2020 14:21:59 GMT
I didn't notice the 1986 date, there's still hope! No there isn't Emperor is pulling a Red on people here. Trying to avoid it to not make people lose hope. And if no one knows who Red is I dont blame you. She is the main character of a game that belongs on a different list.
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Post by Lony on Jul 25, 2020 14:32:31 GMT
I didn't notice the 1986 date, there's still hope! No there isn't Emperor is pulling a Red on people here. Trying to avoid it to not make people lose hope. And if no one knows who Red is I dont blame you. She is the main character of a game that belongs on a different list. Uh, I'm pretty sure Red is a dude, as well as a Pokemon trainer/league champion/master/some other shit. Oh you don't mean that one... my bad then.
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Post by 🤯 on Jul 25, 2020 14:42:35 GMT
I didn't notice the 1986 date, there's still hope! Hope for what?
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Post by sandylea on Jul 25, 2020 14:51:12 GMT
I would honestly be surprised if no one included Tetris.
It’s pretty amazing that it has even had an impact on board games, and that there is a Tetris board game
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Post by Big Pete on Jul 25, 2020 15:20:29 GMT
I thought the good doctor had committed malpractice for a second.
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Post by Big Pete on Jul 25, 2020 15:25:43 GMT
I didn't notice the 1986 date, there's still hope! No there isn't Emperor is pulling a Red on people here. Trying to avoid it to not make people lose hope. And if no one knows who Red is I dont blame you. She is the main character of a game that belongs on a different list. Until you said she, I was right with you under the guise you were talking about Red Foreman. Good ol' doctor I thought, busting balls and trying to pretend NJPW isn't burning to the ground with EVIL as it's champion.
Ha! Like that'll put butts on seats.
Are we talking about Transistor?
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Post by X-zero on Jul 25, 2020 23:48:11 GMT
No there isn't Emperor is pulling a Red on people here. Trying to avoid it to not make people lose hope. And if no one knows who Red is I dont blame you. She is the main character of a game that belongs on a different list. Uh, I'm pretty sure Red is a dude, as well as a Pokemon trainer/league champion/master/some other shit. Oh you don't mean that one... my bad then. As a kid I really thought Red was Ash. I didn't notice the 1986 date, there's still hope! Hope for what? I think his hope for either Metroid and/or Zelda. No there isn't Emperor is pulling a Red on people here. Trying to avoid it to not make people lose hope. And if no one knows who Red is I dont blame you. She is the main character of a game that belongs on a different list. Until you said she, I was right with you under the guise you were talking about Red Foreman. Good ol' doctor I thought, busting balls and trying to pretend NJPW isn't burning to the ground with EVIL as it's champion.
Ha! Like that'll put butts on seats.
Are we talking about Transistor?
And the Red that probably will make it on a buggest games of all time list or some negative list is the one from WWE 2K20.
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Post by Emperor on Jul 27, 2020 22:10:46 GMT
My work is done, time to take shelter until the rage dies down... 
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2020 22:24:36 GMT
Every. Friggin'. Time.
But mark out for the octopus.
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Post by Lionheart on Jul 27, 2020 22:33:17 GMT
Monkey Island is a treasure. A secret pirate treasure. But not a buried one. Everyone has played this masterpiece.
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Post by X-zero on Jul 27, 2020 22:47:55 GMT
My work is done, time to take shelter until the rage dies down... I never played the game(s), but I have heard them reference before so I don't think you really need to take cover for saying that one. Now some of the future ones on your list you will need to take cover on. And one you may need to go into a witness protection program.
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Post by Da Gr8t I Is on Jul 28, 2020 3:32:35 GMT
Manic Miner
Matthew Smith, 1983
In 1982, the ZX Spectrum home computer was released by Sinclair Research, founded by entrepeneur Clive Sinclair. Sinclair is one of those iconic figures in British history who doesn't get the recognition he deserves. He also invented the first compact pocket electronic calculator a decade earlier.
The ZX Spectrum was not the first of Sinclair's cheap, general purpose home computers, but it is the most important one. For comparison purposes, the American equivalent is the Commodore 64, released in the same year. From a video gaming perspective, the ZX Spectrum could play cartridge games, but also provided the hardware and software for users to program their own games using the BASIC programming language. The result was a boom in the video game market as shelves were filled with games developed by ordinary members of the public. The majority of commercial ZX Spectrum software was games, and the machine itself was immensely popular, not just among gamers. However, the computer was not tailor made for games: games would have to be controlled by a keyboard, and the colour and sound support was not so good. This forced creativity and resourcefulness from game developers, and dozens of quirky, vibrant games were released.
Which leads us to Manic Miner, starring Miner Willy and developed single-handedly in six weeks by a 17 year old, Matthew Smith. Manic Miner perfectly captures the zeitgeist of the early 80s home computer gaming scene. This can be seen from the moment the title screen appears, with its dazzlingly bright colour scheme and hideous music.
Manic Miner is a side-scrolling platformer. The player must navigate through different colourful worlds, leaping over bizarre alien creatures and other obstacles, collecting all the keys in order to make it to the exit. Each level has a different theme, a different set of enemies, different collectibles. The game also has an oddball sense of humour, which could only come from the mind of a 17 year old geeky British kid,probably under the influence of various drugs. One notable level is called Attack of the Mutant Telephones.
Why is the game significant?
I'll quote my source directly for this one:
Manic Miner makes it onto our list for being the quintessential Spectrum game, an idiosyncratic, peculiarly British homebrewed classic, still celebrated today.
The point they are getting at is that it is the embodiment of the proto-indie gaming culture that came out of the release of the ZX Spectrum. However, its significance to video gaming as a whole is not in the same order of magnitude as that of Pong, Space Invaders or Pac-Man.
Manic Miner was innovative in some respects. It was not the first platform game (Nintendo's Donkey Kong takes that prize), nor was it the first side-scrolling platform game (Alpha Denshi's Jump Bug got there first), but I can't find any examples of earlier games that seamlessly blended all these concepts together into one adventure, with different enemy types and collectibles. I'm not going to argue that it innovated anywhere near as much as the previous three games, or reached any serious level of popularity. It's not even a well-known game in the UK - I've never heard it in my entire life until I came across this list.
Manic Miner is one of several controversial entries from my source list. It's a interesting piece of history, but I don't really think it should be in any "Most Significant Games" list. To me it feels like the British tooting their own horn. So I'm going to go ahead and post the next game right now, since it occurred in the same time period and has a much more legitimate claim.
 
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Post by 🤯 on Jul 28, 2020 13:40:52 GMT
Meh, I won't rage over this one even though I've never heard of it before.
LucasArts is a name I do know, and if this is the game that secured LucasArts commercial viability going forward... then I understand its significance from that aspect. LucasArts to me will forever live and die with the nostalgic memories of playing some spacefighter game on the PC where you could pick between any of the iconic spacefighters from the OG Star Wars universe and engage in space-based dog fights. The mechanics were challenging but also so much more forgiving that the flight simulator game we also dabbled with. That and Civilization (or was it Age of Empires?) were our jams as kids for a few-years-long window before Starcraft came along and wrecked us for life.
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Post by Big Pete on Jul 28, 2020 13:53:15 GMT
Monkey Island, whaaaa? Yes, great adventure game, wonderful writing and some gorgeous art for it's time but the adventure genre had been around for ages before it came a long. I don't even think it really did anything other Sierra series weren't already doing and it wasn't like they were unpopular either.
Still, I did forget the adventure genre and I'm glad it received some representation. I would have just gone with something else.
I also miss the click and point series, there's so many old school ones I want to back to that I never played before. Gobliiins, King's Quest VI and King's Quest VII was my childhood.
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Post by Emperor on Jul 28, 2020 19:38:29 GMT
I never played the game(s), but I have heard them reference before so I don't think you really need to take cover for saying that one. Now some of the future ones on your list you will need to take cover on. And one you may need to go into a witness protection program. Has X-zero uncovered my source? Bloody hell. Good work, mate.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2020 19:49:19 GMT
This is one of those games I know exists because I've heard it over the years but have zero clue what it is. May be the first time I've seen screens.
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Post by X-zero on Jul 29, 2020 5:22:04 GMT
I never played the game(s), but I have heard them reference before so I don't think you really need to take cover for saying that one. Now some of the future ones on your list you will need to take cover on. And one you may need to go into a witness protection program. Has X-zero uncovered my source? Bloody hell. Good work, mate. All Signs Point to Yes
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Post by Lionheart on Jul 29, 2020 6:57:28 GMT
Has X-zero uncovered my source? Bloody hell. Good work, mate. All Signs Point to Yes All Signs Point to Yes A S P Y ASPY A SPY Very clever use of caps, xzero. You were spying on Emp’s browsing history all this time. You are in fact a master spy with masterclass hacking skills. We should have known.
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Post by 🤯 on Jul 29, 2020 18:26:50 GMT
All Signs Point to Yes A S P Y ASPY A SPY Very clever use of caps, xzero. You were spying on Emp’s browsing history all this time. You are in fact a master spy with masterclass hacking skills. We should have known. And Lionheart is a masterclass decoder! Might as well start calling you Balderdash Cabbagepatch from that movie... Imitations of Turing (or whatever it was called).
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Post by 🤯 on Jul 29, 2020 22:10:16 GMT
Wait, did I miss it? Why SF2 over SF1? Did it do something better or more revolutionary than the first? Or just had greater popularity/commercial success?
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Post by Emperor on Jul 29, 2020 22:11:49 GMT
Did it do something better or more revolutionary than the first? Or just had greater popularity/commercial success? The short answer is both. The long answer is, read the write-up!
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Post by 🤯 on Jul 29, 2020 22:16:20 GMT
Did it do something better or more revolutionary than the first? Or just had greater popularity/commercial success? The short answer is both. The long answer is, read the write-up! OK, touché. I missed it. Well played, and I forgot how constrained and shitty SF1 was. Now I'm wondering if I only ever played SF2 as a kid, and have misappropriated memories of SF2 to SF1.
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Post by Emperor on Jul 29, 2020 22:19:55 GMT
I wonder if any VG&Ters have ever played the first Street Fighter? I certainly haven't...
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Post by 🤯 on Jul 29, 2020 22:25:55 GMT
Also, I want a Street Fighter vs. Mortal Kombat crossover so bad.
Specifically:
- Ryu & Ken vs. Liu Kang & Johnny Cage for the tag titles
- Blanka vs. Raiden in an electrified cage match for the hardcore title
- Chun-Li vs. Sonya Blade in a bra and panties match for the lady's belt
- Sagat vs. Kano in an eye for an eye match, loser loses their remaining eye
- Mask vs. Mask Gauntlet pitting Vega against Scorpion, Sub Zero, and Reptile
- Balrog vs. Jax for leadership of the new Nation of Domination
- Thrown the rest in a Super Combo Fatality Battle Royale
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Post by X-zero on Jul 29, 2020 22:28:57 GMT
I played the original and it is really bad. I think it was a pc game and it was very sluggish. I think it only had 4 fighters.
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Post by Lionheart on Jul 29, 2020 22:48:16 GMT
I put Street Fighter II on my list apparently, though my heart skipped a beat when I saw Emperor’s posting and worried if I actually put the first one.
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Post by X-zero on Jul 29, 2020 23:02:28 GMT
Also, I want a Street Fighter vs. Mortal Kombat crossover so bad. Specifically: - Ryu & Ken vs. Liu Kang & Johnny Cage for the tag titles - Blanka vs. Raiden in an electrified cage match for the hardcore title - Chun-Li vs. Sonya Blade in a bra and panties match for the lady's belt - Sagat vs. Kano in an eye for an eye match, loser loses their remaining eye - Mask vs. Mask Gauntlet pitting Vega against Scorpion, Sub Zero, and Reptile - Balrog vs. Jax for leadership of the new Nation of Domination - Thrown the rest in a Super Combo Fatality Battle Royale Surprised you with Sonya in that match instead Kitana, Mileena, or Jade. Jade even brings her own stripper pole.
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Post by 🤯 on Jul 29, 2020 23:34:53 GMT
Also, I want a Street Fighter vs. Mortal Kombat crossover so bad. Specifically: - Ryu & Ken vs. Liu Kang & Johnny Cage for the tag titles - Blanka vs. Raiden in an electrified cage match for the hardcore title - Chun-Li vs. Sonya Blade in a bra and panties match for the lady's belt - Sagat vs. Kano in an eye for an eye match, loser loses their remaining eye - Mask vs. Mask Gauntlet pitting Vega against Scorpion, Sub Zero, and Reptile - Balrog vs. Jax for leadership of the new Nation of Domination - Thrown the rest in a Super Combo Fatality Battle Royale Surprised you with Sonya in that match instead Kitana, Mileena, or Jade. Jade even brings her own stripper pole. I originally wanted it to be the OG MK cast but bitched out.
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Post by Da Gr8t I Is on Jul 30, 2020 4:42:04 GMT
Street Fighter II is the greatest fighting game period. I still play it today. 
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