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Post by Baker on Nov 16, 2020 18:04:51 GMT
Lump me into the Genius fancamp. Was his match against Hogan the GOAT SNME match? For me, it probably is. I'm hard-pressed at the moment to think of one I enjoyed more. GOAT SNME match is a good question. My favorite has to be Hogan/Andre where Andre wins the title. I'm leaning towards Perfect/Tito from 7/90 for best, but that is by no means set in stone. Fwiw Genius/Hogan would be Top 5 at minimum in both categories. Actually, just remembered Hogan/Andre wasn't technically a SNME since it aired on a Friday. So Hogan/Genius just might be my favorite SNME match.
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Post by Shootist on Nov 16, 2020 18:11:24 GMT
Favorite SNME matches:
Hogan vs Orndorff Cage Macho vs. Bret Piper vs Orndorff Savage vs. Jake (Heel vs. Heel!) Hogan vs Bossman (Hogan Superplex!) Rockers vs Hart Foundation
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Post by Shootist on Nov 16, 2020 18:13:30 GMT
There should have been a Survivor Series team called The Zoo. Jake “The Snake” Roberts, “Birdman” Koko B. Ware, and the British Bulldogs. Zoo vs. The Horde. Book it, Gabe. Jake, Steamboat and Bulldogs for an even better combination.
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Post by Baker on Nov 16, 2020 18:22:07 GMT
Favorite SNME matches: Hogan vs Orndorff Cage Macho vs. Bret Piper vs Orndorff Savage vs. Jake (Heel vs. Heel!) Hogan vs Bossman (Hogan Superplex!) Rockers vs Hart Foundation That's a solid list, though I'm totally blanking on Harts/Rockers. Come to think of it, I'd actually take Bret/Savage over Perfect/Tito. Epic sell job by Mach in that one. Also dig seeing Piper/Orndorff on there. That was one of my favorite discoveries from a few years back. More SNME shoutouts... Hogan/Orndorff (Cage) Hogan/Race (Table!) Michaels/Bulldog Kicking myself over forgetting Steamboat for my "Zoo" Survivor Series team.
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Post by Shootist on Nov 17, 2020 0:21:18 GMT
Favorite SNME matches: Hogan vs Orndorff Cage Macho vs. Bret Piper vs Orndorff Savage vs. Jake (Heel vs. Heel!) Hogan vs Bossman (Hogan Superplex!) Rockers vs Hart Foundation That's a solid list, though I'm totally blanking on Harts/Rockers. Come to think of it, I'd actually take Bret/Savage over Perfect/Tito. Epic sell job by Mach in that one. Also dig seeing Piper/Orndorff on there. That was one of my favorite discoveries from a few years back. More SNME shoutouts... Hogan/Orndorff (Cage) Hogan/Race (Table!) Michaels/Bulldog Kicking myself over forgetting Steamboat for my "Zoo" Survivor Series team. I think the Rockers/Foundation might have been the one where the top rope breaks, it happened on the April 1990 edition.
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Post by Strobe on Jan 18, 2022 10:45:24 GMT
Not sure if this really fits here, but just trying to do more for Berzerker and Crush and their characters here after I was talking in the Superstars thread about how Crush/Berz could've happened at Series 1992.
It got me thinking about Crush, his finisher and hard head gimmicks. It feels like they missed a trick not having him try to apply the finisher to someone with a hard head to no effect and it shaking him, causing him to doubt his own strength. Would get the heel over and could potentially be a cool way to introduce an alternate finisher for him.
I'm now thinking that Berzerker, as a wild foreigner, could've had a hard head gimmick like the Samoans. It could've been used in his first feud with Snuka in mid-1991. Hard to justify them being on SummerSlam but could've easily been a Superstars main event in August/September. Berz goes to ram Snuka's head into the turnbuckle, who of course no sells. He then rams Berzerker's head into the buckle, who also no sells, to Superfly's shock. They end up outside the ring, brawling and both get counted out. Snuka then rams Berz's head into the ringpost and he no sells again to Snuka's even greater shock. Berz then rams Snuka's head into the post and it knocks him out. He has a harder head than even Snuka.
Then a year later post-SummerSlam 1992, have Crush claim that no one can survive his head squeeze finisher and Fuji begs to differ (because Berzerker himself should never have spoken English). It's like the reverse of the Full Nelson feud with Davey/Warlord from the previous year.
Maybe even have Crush do a demonstration of his crushing prowess with various hard objects in front of the crowd, when Fuji comes out and says his Berzerker's head won't be affected. Berz lets Crush put on his hold and shows no effects, then breaks out and lays a beatdown on Crush. Crush is devastated, full-on identity crisis here. They face off at Survivor Series and maybe Crush even passes up the opportunity to apply the Crush when he has the chance. When he has a second chance, he doubts again but maybe gestures to the crowd and they get behind him so he applies it. But it has no effect again. This time, when Berzerker goes to escape, Crush fights it and applies the Head Crush with even more force (Van Hammer/Vinnie Vegas arm wrestle facials here) and it starts hurting the viking, who ultimately submits. Feel like that makes both men look tough and gave Crush something to overcome.
As I said, Berz should never have spoken English. He should have done less goofy bumps (they were sort of his thing, so I don't want to totally eliminate them). The hussing should probably have been cut in at least half. If he was ever a face (not saying he should've been), he would have to not be wild all the time and then go in to Berzerker Mode and smash his opponent.
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Post by rad on Jan 20, 2022 4:32:24 GMT
How'd I miss this thread? Dumb, punny tag team names are totally my jam...
Sid Vicious//Rick Martel as "Vicious & Delicious" (The promos would probably have made for some great Wrestlecrap fodder)
Ultimate Warrior//Adam Bomb as "Nuclear (or 'Atomic', I guess) Warfare"
Steve Austin//Rob Van Dam as "Stoned Cold"
Rikishi//William Regal as "Real Bad Men"
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