Chuck looked so old and slow, it was the first time I watched an MMA fight and was like, "I think I could beat that dude." I couldn't, but holy shit do you have to look bad for me to even think it. I don't believe in "legacy being ruined" hysterics, that match meant nothing and nobody will consider it when looking at either of their careers. Shame on it being sanctioned, though.

damn...Nunes just destroyed roidey mcgee

Dec 30, 2018 9:07:51 GMT Mr. Canoe said:

damn...Nunes just destroyed roidey mcgee

Horrible strategy by Cyborg.   Nunes has hands like bricks, you can't trade with her like that and expect to get away with it.

I find it infuriating they took UFC off Fox/cable just to put it and some shitty subsidiary service like ESPN +.  Total bullshit.  

Double

Jan 15, 2019 20:52:37 GMT Ed said:

I find it infuriating they took UFC off Fox/cable just to put it and some shitty subsidiary service like ESPN +.  Total bullshit.  

It frustrated me when they started pulling away from basic cable(Spike) to do big shows on VS and then the Fox deal had them primarily relegated to FS1, a specialty package channel that cost more money than i was willing to spend on my cable bill. Im more out of touch with the sport than ive been since the dark ages of the sport. The ESPN deal is an even further downgrade imo, ive become a lapsed fan. Just wont get any better than the format they had on Spike with TUF/Unleashed/occasional free fight night/monthly ppv, it was so simple and effortless to follow/digest almost like a good pro wrestling fed. Now its like college basketball.

I'm a happy camper, I have ESPN, lets me get back into UFC
Very underwhelming title fights at Fight Night 143
Soon as the ref stopped the fight I called BS for Dillashaw, he had barely taken any damage and was still working.

Thought the stoppage was fine personally, Dillashaw got dropped twice in about five seconds and Cejudo was all over him with Dillashaw not defending himself. It may have been slightly early but how long did Dillashaw have left? 20 seconds at best? Meh, don't see the issue with it.

Hope the UFC stop with this Champ vs Champ stuff but they'll probably run Cejudo vs Dillashaw II for the Bantamweight title, which is lame because there are legitimate contenders at 135, plus they've already ran 3 champ v champ fights in about nine months, it's not as special anymore.

Anyone tune into Karate Combat? It looks so much like a movie.

www.karate.com/index.html

They pick cool looking spots to do it. A limited visible audience that looks like a spectacle for the rich. And all the fighters look like athletes.

Have to say, it looks pretty sexy.

Dude Karate Combat is fucking amazing. Huge fan. I posted this a few pages back when I discovered it on Fight Pass:

Jul 29, 2018 12:48:51 GMT shinobimusashi said:

Oh my god yes this Karate Combat show is excellent. Bas on commentary, OUTSTANDING setting in this arena in Athens Greece, excellent presentation, lighting, aesthetics, feel, atmosphere, and I really love the rules, no submissions but takedowns are allowed(no double legs or suplexes though) and you get a short period of time to fight on the ground(5 seconds), limited clinching, the "PIT" they fight in makes it really interesting as far as footwork and working the outside.






Edit: just finished this show and it was phenomenal, every fight was a finish except the main event which ended with dude breaking his shin on an inside leg kick, too bad because that was going to be a great fight. I'm a big fan of this, need to check out the other shows they did I heard them say the first show was this past April.

www.mmafighting.com/2019/1/23/18195095/trace-amount-of-same-steroid-metabolite-found-in-jon-jones-ufc-232-vada-test-results

Shocking

I've changed my stance on steroids in MMA, fighters using them is really not that big of a deal, the big deal is the unfair testing that tips the playing field out of level. This is why Pride FC had it right with no steroid testing, it was level playing field where everybody could do steroids and it was ok or where a clean guy like Noguiera could test his might against chemically enhanced monsters like Fedor, Cro Cop, and Bob Fucking Sapp. Pride FC was the best there ever was, the best there is, the best there ever will be.

System, shinobimusashi, people think steroids are magic, they're not you still have to eat and train, they just assist recovery

If they can legalise pot then everyone should have access to Test-E but ban the nasty stuff like Decca

Jan 27, 2019 0:26:37 GMT iNCY said:

System , shinobimusashi , people think steroids are magic, they're not you still have to eat and train, they just assist recovery

"Just assist recovery." That's a tangible advantage, not "magic."

Jan 26, 2019 0:55:46 GMT shinobimusashi said:

I've changed my stance on steroids in MMA, fighters using them is really not that big of a deal, the big deal is the unfair testing that tips the playing field out of level. This is why Pride FC had it right with no steroid testing, it was level playing field where everybody could do steroids and it was ok or where a clean guy like Noguiera could test his might against chemically enhanced monsters like Fedor, Cro Cop, and Bob Fucking Sapp. Pride FC was the best there ever was, the best there is, the best there ever will be.

PRIDE FC is the GOAT, but I disagree with legalizing everything leveling out the playing field. You then set up an environment where it becomes a cocktail arms race. The Lance Armstrong Tour de France years being the greatest example. Armstrong would agree with you, everybody was doping, things were leveled out, he just happened to be the best, because of course Lance Armstrong would say that. Chemists tend to agree that Armstrong was just taking the best shit, though. Then the fact that Armstrong was a not a great climber before the PEDs, and then he ends up being the GOAT in a race up a mountain, it seems like Armstrong having better cocktails checks out. I think it'd be pretty lame if fights were being won before the match in labs. Granted, it's (probably) happening already, but not nearly as much if it was just legal.

Jan 27, 2019 3:12:31 GMT Kilgore said:

Jan 27, 2019 0:26:37 GMT iNCY said:

System , shinobimusashi , people think steroids are magic, they're not you still have to eat and train, they just assist recovery

"Just assist recovery." That's a tangible advantage, not "magic."

Jan 26, 2019 0:55:46 GMT shinobimusashi said:

I've changed my stance on steroids in MMA, fighters using them is really not that big of a deal, the big deal is the unfair testing that tips the playing field out of level. This is why Pride FC had it right with no steroid testing, it was level playing field where everybody could do steroids and it was ok or where a clean guy like Noguiera could test his might against chemically enhanced monsters like Fedor, Cro Cop, and Bob Fucking Sapp. Pride FC was the best there ever was, the best there is, the best there ever will be.

PRIDE FC is the GOAT, but I disagree with legalizing everything leveling out the playing field. You then set up an environment where it becomes a cocktail arms race. The Lance Armstrong Tour de France years being the greatest example. Armstrong would agree with you, everybody was doping, things were leveled out, he just happened to be the best, because of course Lance Armstrong would say that. Chemists tend to agree that Armstrong was just taking the best shit, though. Then the fact that Armstrong was a not a great climber before the PEDs, and then he ends up being the GOAT in a race up a mountain, it seems like Armstrong having better cocktails checks out. I think it'd be pretty lame if fights were being won before the match in labs. Granted, it's (probably) happening already, but not nearly as much if it was just legal.

In any sport where a few of the top 10 get busted for steroids over the years, you can safely assume they are all on the gear.
Remember Armstrong never had a positive drug test. 
Armstrong was a lying cheat, but given that they were all on gear, he was still a freak. 

So Jake Hager aka "Jack Swagger" won his MMA debut via arm triangle. Although he did beat the very definition of a journey man can. Guy he fought was 1-1 pro, 10-8 amateur but claimed to have over 50+ fights lol

Ryan Bader knocked out Fedor pretty quickly to be a double champ.

Just to make sure. You all never took steroids of any kind huh? It's so much more than recovery.

Jan 28, 2019 20:26:49 GMT theend said:

Just to make sure. You all never took steroids of any kind huh? It's so much more than recovery.

If they were more readily available and not treated like cocaine by the law, I would take Test and probably cruise on it for a year.

It is exactly about recovery, that is when your muscles grow, you exercise and tear them then they repair when you are not exercising.
If you look at the volume body builders do it is only because their bodies are able to train more frequently and harder.

Jan 29, 2019 22:53:48 GMT iNCY said:

Jan 28, 2019 20:26:49 GMT theend said:

Just to make sure. You all never took steroids of any kind huh? It's so much more than recovery.

If they were more readily available and not treated like cocaine by the law, I would take Test and probably cruise on it for a year.

It is exactly about recovery, that is when your muscles grow, you exercise and tear them then they repair when you are not exercising.
If you look at the volume body builders do it is only because their bodies are able to train more frequently and harder.

Let me give you another scenario. I'm a knowledgeable, skilled fighter who is only fighting a couple of times a year. During the downtime I get out of shape. Like Ricky Hatton. Or Ricky fat one as his nickname was. And I get a fight, I got to go into camp and I want to express lane my weak ass muscles I've atrophied over the months off into fighting shape. I take roids and start packing the muscle while cutting out the fat. Is that all about recovery? If you're not familiar with Ricky Hatton, look at old pics of Tyson on the beach in between fights.

Bodybuilding is a whole different kettle of fish. Different steroids for recovery. gains and strength. With the right roids I could gain 5 lbs of muscle in a weak. It's not about recovery at that point. It's about feeding steroid fueled muscle mass.


I seriously suggest Dan Nitro Clark's book for fun romp through roids. It's like reading about a rocker doing coke.

Gladiator: A True Story of 'Roids, Rage, and Redemption

Think of this,if you have muscle wasting disease. They give you roids.

Kron Gracie UFC debut coming up next. I'm fired up.

Ruthless Robbie Lawler hit a legit Death Valley Driver on Ben Askren tonight and Askren miraculously is still alive and technically the winner. 

LOUIE!!!!

SPOILER: Click to show

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Mar 3, 2019 8:17:33 GMT Kilgore said:

Ruthless Robbie Lawler hit a legit Death Valley Driver on Ben Askren tonight and Askren miraculously is still alive and technically the winner. 

LOUIE!!!!

SPOILER: Click to show

{Spoiler}

Technically the winner because you're not allowed to do head drops like that? Or won based on other reasons?

I fucking LOVE when pro wrestling moves appear in MMA or real wrestling. Even if they're slightly different or uglier looking. Even more so when the move is something I'd never expect. German suplex, or Boston crab even? Sure. But a fucking Death Valley Driver!? That has me marking like powerbomb counters to armbars.

Mar 3, 2019 15:01:31 GMT 🤯 said:

Technically the winner because you're not allowed to do head drops like that? Or won based on other reasons?

Another reason. About a minute later Askren had recovered enough to get Lawler in a bulldog choke. The referee incorrectly thought Robbie got choked unconcious, called the fight, but Robbie was very much still awake and pissed off the fight got called. So Askren got the win, but it was controversial. To the ref's defense, Robbie's arm looked like it went limp, so he really did look like he was choked out, but as soon as it was called Robbie was fine. It was too fast to wake back up, so I don't think he ever went out. It was an odd finish and the Death Valley Driver is what won the night for me personally.

Mar 3, 2019 15:01:31 GMT 🤯 said:

I fucking LOVE when pro wrestling moves appear in MMA or real wrestling. Even if they're slightly different or uglier looking. Even more so when the move is something I'd never expect. German suplex, or Boston crab even? Sure. But a fucking Death Valley Driver!? That has me marking like powerbomb counters to armbars.

Yeah, man. I was marking out hard. I love the struggle in legit slams like that. There was a minor deadlift vibe as Askren was going up because he obviously wasn't helping out. Those are the little things pro wrestling should add that would make things look more legit without having to become "shoot style." Just subtle things. I also love that Lawler's Death Valley Driver (The Lawler Driver?) begins like the Angle Slam. It's another subtle difference that someone in wrestling should do. 

Nice to see Poirier get a belt, even if he still has to best Khabib to solidify it. Really hope he can counter Khabib's wrestling, on the feet, think I might give Dustin the edge...but Khabib is just too damn strong of a wrestler.

Anyone got a tip?



I really like PEÑA but there's not a lot of support for her winning.
Nunez is at 1.35, that is pretty short for a challenger.

Nunes gets her revenge, IMO.

Nice to see Rogan rock up looking like he slept in his clothes

Did not watch the show, but people sharing that liver kick KO. That is like some ancient martial arts master shit right there.  Dude is fine for a second after the kick then just fucking done.  

I've seen more Paddy Pimblett content in the last week on social media than I've seen anything else from UFC all year.

Is this kid really the next big thing?

Peña/Nunes was the second best female fight I’ve seen.