That went under the radar. Two days.

🤯 giving Baker the rub by posting in the House that History Built.

Lady referees are a lot better at avoiding getting hit than the guy refs. Do you think women are just better at reffing or are more focused to avoid the occasional corner collision that is always getting Little Nature Boy? Could it be that the male wrestlers are just more chivalrous with the lady refs so as to not Irish whip their opponents into the lady?

Chivalry isn't dead, it just exists in the squared circle brother.

May 28, 2022 2:06:40 GMT 🤯 said:

Ok this is a great high

This would ruin my high if a still smoked weed. Some of these scenarios are mind fucks.

We know from MMA and martial arts that most submission holds end a match instantly. A rear naked choke can cause the most seasoned MMA fighter to tap immediately, otherwise he will pass out within seconds. Cross armbreaker, same deal, except you have your arm broken instead of passing out. Ditto for almost any submission hold. Double wristlock, knee bar, heel hook. Instant game over. Submit immediately or suffer a huge injury.

What's the kayfabe explanation for professional wrestlers being able to withstand these holds for many seconds, even going into minutes? Are they superhuman?

Vince McMahon: "OF COURSE, PAL! THAT'S WHY WE CALL EM SUPERSTARS!"

That's why the ref gets MURKED, he's a mere mortal like US.

Jun 2, 2022 16:43:59 GMT Emperor said:

We know from MMA and martial arts that most submission holds end a match instantly. A rear naked choke can cause the most seasoned MMA fighter to tap immediately, otherwise he will pass out within seconds. Cross armbreaker, same deal, except you have your arm broken instead of passing out. Ditto for almost any submission hold. Double wristlock, knee bar, heel hook. Instant game over. Submit immediately or suffer a huge injury.

What's the kayfabe explanation for professional wrestlers being able to withstand these holds for many seconds, even going into minutes? Are they superhuman?

Yes

How about pro-wrestlers are terrible at executing submission holds?

Why aren't there 2 referees for 6 man tag matches? would be the job easier.

Jun 3, 2022 20:38:34 GMT Ed said:

Why aren't there 2 referees for 6 man tag matches? would be the job easier.

With how often they're taken out... they should have backup at ringside.

Also how can they justify obvious cheating we witness just because you're the assigned official. If that shit flies... you're bad at your job.

As far as submissions, I've given that a pass since there's rope breaks in Pro Wrestling, no such luck in UFC so you can't just position your body to get a foot on the rope.

Jun 3, 2022 4:17:23 GMT Emperor said:

How about pro-wrestlers are terrible at executing submission holds?

That’s why wrestlers last in the holds longer maybe?

Jun 4, 2022 13:09:14 GMT kingoftheworld said:

Jun 3, 2022 4:17:23 GMT Emperor said:

How about pro-wrestlers are terrible at executing submission holds?

That’s why wrestlers last in the holds longer maybe?

Yeah, that was my attempt at a kayfabe explanation. And to be fair, some of wrestling's more prominent submission holds do look awful.

Hogan, the Nitro commentators and us the audience can see Warrior in the mirror. Bischoff and the Backstage Blast commentators (not shown in the vid) seemingly can't.

Obviously the commentators were supposed to act like they couldn't see Warrior like Bischoff but fucked it up. Still makes no sense since we, the audience, could see him, so it clearly wasn't in Hogan's head. The spot would work if Hogan started claiming he was seeing Warrior and none of us could see him.

The Nitro commentators fucking up actually makes it work better in kayfabe I think. We could say that Bischoff is pretending not to see Warrior in some misguided attempt to calm Hogan. Or perhaps Bischoff has really bad eyesight that he is embarrassed about and doesn't want to admit. The Backstage Blast commentators are sycophants who, despite clearly seeing Warrior, will copy whatever Bischoff does or says.

Jun 8, 2022 10:43:00 GMT Strobe said:

Hogan, the Nitro commentators and us the audience can see Warrior in the mirror. Bischoff and the Backstage Blast commentators (not shown in the vid) seemingly can't.

Obviously the commentators were supposed to act like they couldn't see Warrior like Bischoff but fucked it up. Still makes no sense since we, the audience, could see him, so it clearly wasn't in Hogan's head. The spot would work if Hogan started claiming he was seeing Warrior and none of us could see him.

The Nitro commentators fucking up actually makes it work better in kayfabe I think. We could say that Bischoff is pretending not to see Warrior in some misguided attempt to calm Hogan. Or perhaps Bischoff has really bad eyesight that he is embarrassed about and doesn't want to admit. The Backstage Blast commentators are sycophants who, despite clearly seeing Warrior, will copy whatever Bischoff does or says.

I'd also add that the Warrior's gimmick was messing with the television signal (his 20 minute debut diatribe concluded with a static fade out) so the audience was being treated to the same 'vision' Hogan was being subjected to.

In reality, all they had to do was have the Warrior disappear when Bischoff looks into the mirror only to re-emerge when Bischoff turns his back and it's a classic trope from horror.

When Mike Awesome won the Hardcore Title during the Invasion -

1. Why did the WWE ref count so readily after being intimidated once?
2. Why didn’t they make a bigger deal about the ref counting away a WWE Title to a competitor?
3. Why didn’t he bring a referee like Nick Patrick or Lil Naitch?

All bearing in mind the refs were brought into the Invasion angle and Nick/Charles were given fairly prominent referee spots and air time.

I get it’s meant to be a throwaway angle where the story is WCW taking a title, but considering how much the refereeing was used as an angle later on it’s just a bit annoying.

Jun 20, 2022 18:16:23 GMT kingoftheworld said:

When Mike Awesome won the Hardcore Title during the Invasion -

1. Why did the WWE ref count so readily after being intimidated once?
2. Why didn’t they make a bigger deal about the ref counting away a WWE Title to a competitor?
3. Why didn’t he bring a referee like Nick Patrick or Lil Naitch?

All bearing in mind the refs were brought into the Invasion angle and Nick/Charles were given fairly prominent referee spots and air time.

I get it’s meant to be a throwaway angle where the story is WCW taking a title, but considering how much the refereeing was used as an angle later on it’s just a bit annoying.

My only kayfabing way of it would be that, under the 24/7 rule, the WWF ref seeing a pin attempted by anyone for the Hardcore title must be counted, meaning that even if the hot dog vender goes for a pin attempt on the wrestler holding the Hardcore belt, it's fair game. It explains why Awesome would get his pinfall counted, no one would seem overly shocked by it (other than "this WCW guy is now our hardcore champ"), and Patrick and Robinson couldn't count the pinfall at the time (not being WWF refs).

It generally takes 2 heavyweights 20 odd minutes to finish the other one off on a PPV yet they are repeatedly sent out in a Raw main event with 7 minutes TV time remaining and the show always ends on time.

Workers know better than to fuck a payday.

Jun 3, 2022 20:38:34 GMT Ed said:

Why aren't there 2 referees for 6 man tag matches? would be the job easier.

There are only so many refs assigned per night, so to add a second to a match means someone has to pick up an extra shift, which means overtime wages. Wrestling has zero budget.

I know I'm most likely forgetting the details but when Kurt Angle gets enraged that The Big Show didn't take their match seriously. As T.B.S. was channeling Hulk Hogan. My thing is, wouldn't Kurt want The Big Show to be goofing around because an unfocused giant is easier to beat?

Jun 25, 2022 1:01:45 GMT Ed said:

I know I'm most likely forgetting the details but when Kurt Angle gets enraged that The Big Show didn't take their match seriously. As T.B.S. was channeling Hulk Hogan. My thing is, wouldn't Kurt want The Big Show to be goofing around because an unfocused giant is easier to beat?

Big Show wasn't displaying any of the Three I's, so Kurt felt disrespected!