The Fight Pit looks pretty good here.

We want Wyatt chants. I guess I didn't miss his redebut.

They shouldn't have added the countout part to this match.

HE'S COMING!!!

That was a mighty troll.

HE'S HERE!!!

Oct 9, 2022 2:28:54 GMT jTjohncenaGOAT said:

Edge, AJ, Rey & Beth vs Judgment Day at Survivor Series? I can dig that.

WARGAMES!

That was such a cool way to re-introduce him

Edge will be off for a few weeks. Christian will leave AEW and And return to help edge and Rey.

That was a pretty great show. Wasn’t a fan of Liv/Rousey but the rest was great. WWE is back baby.

Rhea Ripley is unreal. Judgment Day just became the biggest heels in the game.

Wyatt’s return was excellent too. So cool. Can’t wait to see what he does.

I’ve watched it 3 times now and I can safely say that was the coolest return I’ve ever seen. Wyatt gets free reign just weeks before Halloween. You can’t ask for a better moment.

An entire arena popped for a lantern. Like come on.

Kross hmm I don't know how to feel about the lad now.

Oct 9, 2022 3:18:18 GMT spladle125 said:

Edge will be off for a few weeks. Christian will leave AEW and And return to help edge and Rey.

I wouldn’t even be mad

Fast forwarded through the show, as I only had an hour free to watch.

As expected, Imperium v Brawling Brutes was a good match. Who would have thought letting 6 guys throw hands and not back down, or the heels act like chicken-shits would work?

I can see this almost turning into a mutual respect between the two. A natural progression would see The Brutes go to war with The Bloodline, lose in a tremendous battle and then eventually Imperium blitzkrieging The Bloodline shortly after.

And, Judgement Day. Heels of the year.

And that return.. holy shit. Wyatt is a made man now. If they play it right, Wyatt could be your Undertaker replacement.

My only concern is, Judgement Day, The Doomsayers/Kross and Wyatt all share similar imagery, you almost want to throw a big nu-metal anthem in there in a similar vain to DX to break up all the doom and gloom at the top end of the card.

A couple of superstars (Liv, Rollins) have blacked out their social media pages. Talk is, they are part of 'Wyatt 6' - Bray's new stable.

I had a lot of fun watching the show, some really good matches. And perhaps not so much the match itself, but the whole angle with Edge and Beth and Judgment Day was brilliantly executed.

And that pop at the end. You don’t hear too many of those these days. Great job.

I thought it was a great show. Only issue I had were Ronda/Liv whiffing the weapon shots but it was a good enough story, I just hope Liv smiling while she passed out and then watching Ronda leave with the title was planned because otherwise its a bit goofy and certainly doesn’t help Liv with not being able to keep her emotions in check for big matches. With Graves drawing attention to it maybe it will the next part of Liv’s story, although he did bring up the botched pin at WM 35 when Ronda lost and they’ve basically tried to whitewash that out with the edits on any replays of that moment.

I've not seen the Bray return yet. I'm sure it was great, but the thing with Bray Wyatt is he's all about the anticipation and he's great at that side of things, but when it comes to actually delivering the goods - especally in the ring - he tends to fall flat on his face.

It'll be interesting to see how he goes without Vince there.

The way that I remember it, Bray would always get over, until some ridiculous piece of booking would set him back to square one.

Case in point 2019 during the early days of The Fiend. His debut match against Finn Balor was everything it needed to be and The Fiend was one of the hottest acts in Pro Wrestling. Fast forward to Hell in a Cell and the gimmick died a death because they just went too far with the smoke and mirrors.

Even then, fans were still upset when Goldberg beat him for the title because of how well he came across against Daniel Bryan. Granted, having a good match with Daniel Bryan isn't difficult in the slightest but it seemed like they never really gave him a chance.

I don't really know how he fits in the grand scheme of things but there is cause to be excited over this.

That's a great point, I can imagine Vince hamstrung a lot of Bray's ideas and perhaps even ruined them. Triple H would be far more open to letting Bray run wild, so this could be genuinely great stuff.

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Caught some of the show. The opener was an incredible brawl. These guys were born to wrestle exactly that style of match and they delivered the goods. Interesting that although Sheamus kinda dominated Gunther, Sheamus did not pin Gunther to win the match. Clearly they're building to Sheamus finally beating Gunther one-on-one. Maybe even at Wrestlemania, if they can drag it out that long.

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Liv Morgan vs Ronda Rousey was a very interesting match. Unfortunately the crowd never gave it a chance, they seemed to dislike Rousey and not care at all for Morgan. A shame because I thought both ladies worked really hard and structured a pretty solid match with a nice story. There was the usual Rousey sloppiness in there, which combined with Morgan's lack of athleticism killed a couple of spots, but for the most part I like the action. Morgan put on a great showing. I would have rated the match highly with a better finish but the finish was kinda crap.

Ronda gets put through a table with a gorgeous and brutal senton, then she kicks out and is instantly able to lock in a hold? Ehh. Not only that but they took like 2 minutes in this dead struggling sequence ending with some random hold that I'm sure is super effective, but didn't translate well on screen. Kudos to Michael Cole for yelling "bicep crusher!" to give the audience a clue as to what was happening. Also starting to think that the babyface-passing-out-instead-of-tapping-out is way overdone.

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Drew McIntyre lost a match.

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Bianca Belair won a match.

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I'm not sure how I feel about I Quit matches where the heels win based on some huge threat, the babyface quits, the heels do the dirty deed anyway, meaning it didn't matter if the face quit or not. I get it, it's a devious heel tactic, but at the same time it kinda cheapens the moment.

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Where is Roman Reigns?

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Seth Rollins loses a lot doesn't he? He lost to Cody three times in a row, the next time I see him he's tapping out to Riddle. Maybe he won some matches in between, matches I didn't see.

Oct 9, 2022 13:52:57 GMT jTjohncenaGOAT said:

Did anyone notice the women’s titles next to Sister Abigail? That was weird.

Yeah it could be Liv about to show here weirder side. She very into horror as well.

Seth Rollins is the new Chris Jericho: super charismatic, can make anything work for him, has won it all, now he’s putting people over because he’s that good at making others look good. He’ll win another title somewhere down the road.

Am I the only one that doesn’t think Wyatt is starting a stable? At least not right away. I think last night was pretty clear: he’s put everything he did in the past behind him, killed all his creations, and is finally standing on his own.

Knowing how much Wyatt pays attention to details I am choosing to believe this was intentional:

For those unaware, the left is from a video revealing Brodie Lee as The Chosen One/new Dark Order leader in AEW. The right is from Bray’s return last night.

So Age of the Fall in the WWE with Seth, Liv, Bo Dallas and Wyatt? Could get interesting.

The Witch was also wearing a similar mask to the one Brodie one in the Bludgeon Brothers.  

It's Bray Wyatt - not groomer/children's show host Wyatt or The Fiend, just good old fashioned "Wyatt Family" Wyatt. And that's what matters.

Given Liv and Seth both blacked out their accounts and lost, the cult leader character would work well in leading and redeeming these characters.

I'm not sure how I feel about pepper spray being used. On the 1 hand, having that as a reason to beat Drew doesn't fit the character. Yet, on the other hand, it fits Cross perfectly because he is calculating. Using that is a tactic to anger Drew would make sense.

Oct 9, 2022 19:45:11 GMT NATH45 said:

It's Bray Wyatt - not groomer/children's show host Wyatt or The Fiend, just good old fashioned "Wyatt Family" Wyatt. And that's what matters.

Given Liv and Seth both blacked out their accounts and lost, the cult leader character would work well in leading and redeeming these characters.

can you say that for sure though given all of his children's show characters showed up and he showed up in the Fiend mask?  I think we all hoping for a return to Wyatt Family Bray, but not sure what we will be getting.  

I do think we will get something more akin to the Age of the Fall than Wyatt Family though if Seth is involved.  Seth and Wyatt together creatively could do an amazing nihilism gimmick.

They'll probably use Bray's return as an excuse to have Bliss reunite with him. They don't have anything to do with her creatively speaking.

Oct 9, 2022 23:22:17 GMT c said:

Oct 9, 2022 19:45:11 GMT NATH45 said:

It's Bray Wyatt - not groomer/children's show host Wyatt or The Fiend, just good old fashioned "Wyatt Family" Wyatt. And that's what matters.

Given Liv and Seth both blacked out their accounts and lost, the cult leader character would work well in leading and redeeming these characters.

can you say that for sure though given all of his children's show characters showed up and he showed up in the Fiend mask?  I think we all hoping for a return to Wyatt Family Bray, but not sure what we will be getting.  

I do think we will get something more akin to the Age of the Fall than Wyatt Family though if Seth is involved.  Seth and Wyatt together creatively could do an amazing nihilism gimmick.

Can you say that for sure, given there's been nothing to link Seth or Age of the Fall to Wyatt? You're hoping and dreaming champ.

When was AOTF? 15 years ago?

The man came out, pulled his mask off and was carrying a Family-era lantern and said " I'm here " ....

Oct 9, 2022 17:40:50 GMT RT said:

Knowing how much Wyatt pays attention to details I am choosing to believe this was intentional:

For those unaware, the left is from a video revealing Brodie Lee as The Chosen One/new Dark Order leader in AEW. The right is from Bray’s return last night.

One of the dolls(The witch) had Luke Harper's bludgeon brother mask too. It was absolutely intentional.