Sounds like this will be a special event for the upcoming WB streaming app.

Apr 6, 2023 23:37:30 GMT CM Punk'd said:

Apr 6, 2023 23:25:28 GMT RT said:

Something else of note: as it stands the show isn’t being billed as a PPV. People are speculating that we will get an HBO Max announcement when the app drops next week and the show will be streamed on there. Makes sense since All Out is going to be 1-2 weeks later and asking fans to dish out $50+ for each show would be an issue.

This could be the show they use to sell the streaming service.

Would it still be sold as a PPV for international markets?

I have no idea. Here in Canada, everything HBO is available on Crave TV, so maybe we would get it that way? And as far as I know, HBO Max is available in some way or another in most countries where streaming is a thing.

I have to assume that they will make it available as a PPV regardless, but push the streaming service as a priority.

Almost certain will stream on Max. They been aggressive this week it seems, trying to get a Harry Potter remake TV series made as well, along with some Lord of the Ring show. Should rebrand sometime before this show and they want to come out hot.

Apr 6, 2023 23:34:54 GMT c said:

The question isn't infrastructure, but motivation. Can Tony convince 90k people all around Europe to travel to London to see his show. There are trains, but you are in a for long rides outside of the UK. And even in the UK some are looking at hours spent on a train. Looking like 8 hours from Germany or Ireland.

And while it is a tourist city, I just do not see your average tourist there on business or for a bit fun giving up a night to do AEW that is not already there for it.

There are various scenarios for how Tony will fill the stadium with casual fans but I just do not see them. I do not see 90k from all over Europe flooding the stadium, nor a swarm of tourists in London just suddenly deciding that one night to watch wrestling.

Christ you're a killjoy.

I travelled from Berlin to Paris via train when I should have gone directly to Amsterdam to meet my family just to have a weekend in Paris. If you're motivated, you'll go. I've known guys who travelled to London for a weekend from Adelaide just to see a Premier League final. They probably spent more time in the air than on the ground, but they were motivated to see it.

A flight from Berlin to London is less than 2 hours, factor a few hours to get through Heathrow and into a car, and you'll be in your hotel overlooking Hyde Park before lunch.

Apr 7, 2023 2:06:43 GMT NATH45 said:

Apr 6, 2023 23:34:54 GMT c said:

The question isn't infrastructure, but motivation. Can Tony convince 90k people all around Europe to travel to London to see his show. There are trains, but you are in a for long rides outside of the UK. And even in the UK some are looking at hours spent on a train. Looking like 8 hours from Germany or Ireland.

And while it is a tourist city, I just do not see your average tourist there on business or for a bit fun giving up a night to do AEW that is not already there for it.

There are various scenarios for how Tony will fill the stadium with casual fans but I just do not see them. I do not see 90k from all over Europe flooding the stadium, nor a swarm of tourists in London just suddenly deciding that one night to watch wrestling.

Christ you're a killjoy.

I travelled from Berlin to Paris via train when I should have gone directly to Amsterdam to meet my family just to have a weekend in Paris. If you're motivated, you'll go. I've known guys who travelled to London for a weekend from Adelaide just to see a Premier League final. They probably spent more time in the air than on the ground, but they were motivated to see it.

A flight from Berlin to London is less than 2 hours, factor a few hours to get through Heathrow and into a car, and you'll be in your hotel overlooking Hyde Park before lunch.

To be fair you're Australian and the size of Australia means people there are much more willing to travel long journeys for one thing than the rest of us. I'm in Ireland and I'm exactly the sort of person they should be hoping will go to this. And honestly, given how expensive London is to stay in and the hassle of getting a flight - I just can't see me bothering unless it's genuinely can't miss. 

Hassle getting a flight? What are they doing? Pushing a hang glider off the Guinness Brewery Tower and hoping for a strong wind?

Google searching Dublin to London, there's like 50 flights alone over the next 4 days.

Warner is def streaming this.

“The UK is one of the most important markets in professional wrestling, and AEW is coming in hot as the number one wrestling company in the UK on television,” said Tony Khan. “We want our debut in London to be epic in scale, and there’s no better venue than Wembley Stadium to deliver what I know will be one of the greatest events in AEW’s history. This April also marks 100 years of Warner Bros. and 100 years of Wembley Stadium – it’s a fitting time to come together for ‘AEW: All In London at Wembley Stadium.’”

Max is being announced next week it is believed.  

Also Shahid Khan done about a dozen games games at the stadium with Fulham Football Club and Jacksonville Jaguars.

PAC also advertising in the press release. Looks like Willy also interested in this show. Assume if he is healed he headlines it.

For anyone actually considering going, you need to pre-register for tickets, for wait three days to buy them since this is Ticketmaster.  Ticketmaster also allows reselling, so expect bots to go very deep, very early and prices to escalate fast.  Gonna be interesting to see how deep the bots go, as going hard is a major risk.

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Rumors still are Punk is too hot for the locker room.  Still think we are getting Punk and FTR vs Elite at this show.  Punk will move tickets in the UK.  Willy can work PAC or OC.

What will be interesting is how will they air this event in the UK? From my knowledge, they don't have a designated PPV channel for the AEW PPVs as it is...so it'll be interesting. I Might try my hand at getting tickets for the event though.

Likely Max Streaming service. Should announce it next week.  Be part of celebrating 100 years of WB.

Apr 7, 2023 8:40:16 GMT NATH45 said:

Hassle getting a flight? What are they doing? Pushing a hang glider off the Guinness Brewery Tower and hoping for a strong wind?

Google searching Dublin to London, there's like 50 flights alone over the next 4 days.

I assume PB is not talking about availability, he's more talking about travelling to the airport several hours before your flight, and doing all the preparation beforehand. It's not like driving where you walk out of your front door and hop into your personal plane. This is all for a one day event, it's not like a week long vacation. You'll be spending much more time travelling than actually watching the show. I know travel time is relative. To an American or Australian, travelling for 5 hours is basically nothing. It's a lot more than nothing for a Brit.

Yeah thousands of people do this for Wrestlemania, but that's just not one show, there's a whole wrestling festival surrounding it. Plus Wrestlemania is widely known as the biggest and best wrestling event, has been for decades. This is literally just turn up at Wembley for one relatively unestablished show.

For diehard AEW fans in Europe they will surely do it, but more casual fans are questioning if it's worth a trip for one wrestling show. It's up to AEW to put on a show that's convincing enough to draw in a big number of those fence sitters.

I absolutely love how none of the UK posters here are actually interested in going and it's all people from other countries who are hyped about it 😅

To sell out in stadium configuration they need to do better than most WMs did as well.

Makes things a bit more complicated show is on a Sunday, meaning traveling is out for a lot of people who will need to be at work Monday.

More number stuff, last number I saw for the size of the AEW audience is 2.6 million. So 25% of AEW fans need to attend. Shortfalls need to bring in non fans if he wants to fill the arena. Assumption now is non-fans will flock to this event.

Apr 7, 2023 11:22:54 GMT @papaya said:

I absolutely love how none of the UK posters here are actually interested in going and it's all people from other countries who are hyped about it 😅

Seeing this elsewhere as well, which is why I think Tony may have made a major mistake trying this.  Whole lot that think it is exciting but either want to wait for a show in a smaller venue or will only go if it is a dream card.

Apr 7, 2023 11:29:14 GMT c said:

More number stuff, last number I saw for the size of the AEW audience is 2.6 million. So 25% of AEW fans need to attend.

Wembley capacity is 90k right? 25% of 2.6 million is a lot more than 90k. "Only" around 0.33% of fans need to attend.

Yeah about 33% for a sellout. 60k would be about 25% which is a respectable turnout.

I assume too there will not be 90k seats and at least some seats will be blocked by the entrance setup too. How many fans can attend all depends on the configuration of the arena. If Tony allows standing room, it can hold another 15k fans I believe too moving it over 100k.

You know they say that all wrestling companies are created equal, but you look at AEW and you look at Wembley Stadium and you can see that statement is not true.

See, normally if you book a show at Wembley, you got a 50/50 chance of selling out. But London is expensive and it's not normal! So you got a 25%, AT BEST, at sell out.

Then you add Will Ospreay to the mix, your chances of selling out drastic go down. See the show at Wembley, you got a 33 1/3 chance of selling out, but it, it got a 66 and 2/3 chance of not selling out, because Will Ospreay KNOWS he can't draw and he's not even gonna try!

So AEW freakazoids, you take your 33 1/3 chance, minus WWE's 25% chance and you got an 8 1/3 chance of selling out at Wembley. But then you take WWE's 75% chance of selling out, if they was to go one on one, and then add 66 2/3 per cents, WWE got 141 2/3 chance of selling out Wembley. See AEW, the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you at the box office.

Apr 7, 2023 11:58:14 GMT @papaya said:

You know they say that all wrestling companies are created equal, but you look at AEW and you look at Wembley Stadium and you can see that statement is not true.

See, normally if you book a show at Wembley, you got a 50/50 chance of selling out. But London is expensive and it's not normal! So you got a 25%, AT BEST, at sell out.

Then you add Will Ospreay to the mix, your chances of selling out drastic go down. See the show at Wembley, you got a 33 1/3 chance of selling out, but it, it got a 66 and 2/3 chance of not selling out, because Will Ospreay KNOWS he can't draw and he's not even gonna try!

So AEW freakazoids, you take your 33 1/3 chance, minus WWE's 25% chance and you got an 8 1/3 chance of selling out at Wembley. But then you take WWE's 75% chance of selling out, if they was to go one on one, and then add 66 2/3 per cents, WWE got 141 2/3 chance of selling out Wembley. See AEW, the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you at the box office.

Magnificent. 😂 Straight into the PW Hall of Fame

Yeah that was begging for Steiner math and @papaya hit a slam dunk.

Apr 7, 2023 11:01:27 GMT Emperor said:

Apr 7, 2023 8:40:16 GMT NATH45 said:

Hassle getting a flight? What are they doing? Pushing a hang glider off the Guinness Brewery Tower and hoping for a strong wind?

Google searching Dublin to London, there's like 50 flights alone over the next 4 days.

I assume PB is not talking about availability, he's more talking about travelling to the airport several hours before your flight, and doing all the preparation beforehand. It's not like driving where you walk out of your front door and hop into your personal plane. This is all for a one day event, it's not like a week long vacation. You'll be spending much more time travelling than actually watching the show. I know travel time is relative. To an American or Australian, travelling for 5 hours is basically nothing. It's a lot more than nothing for a Brit.

Yeah thousands of people do this for Wrestlemania, but that's just not one show, there's a whole wrestling festival surrounding it. Plus Wrestlemania is widely known as the biggest and best wrestling event, has been for decades. This is literally just turn up at Wembley for one relatively unestablished show.

For diehard AEW fans in Europe they will surely do it, but more casual fans are questioning if it's worth a trip for one wrestling show. It's up to AEW to put on a show that's convincing enough to draw in a big number of those fence sitters.

If this thread is teaching me anything, is that AEW fans even presented with the biggest show of the company's history will make up any excuse they can to avoid seeing the light of day. 

I hope the overall fanbase doesn't think like that, all because they didn't want to be inconvenienced in anyway.

I travel, I know it's not always fun, and those days are long. I live 2 hours from the Melbourne International Airport and you need to be there 3 hours before take off to check in. By the time I'm boarding the plane, I've usually been away from home for a good 5 or 6 hours at this point. I've had 36 hour travel days as I don't count the disrupted sleep on the flight, and I usually still have all the energy in the world to be out sight-seeing a few hours after checking into the hotel. 

Get excited guys, AEW is going to try to fill Wembley in your literal backyard, and all you can do is find reasons not be excited about it. 

Pre-Registration is at 25k. Day 1 sales all depends on the resellers though. They go heavy Tony could sell it out, but then will really need to push hard to sell the marked up secondary selling seats.

Still find it unreal ticketmaster allows people to buy tickets and then scalp them back on their site but here we are.

I’m thinking of going. Big group of wrestling fans local to me so we’ll make a day of it. It’s a mistake putting it on a Sunday though, that’s for sure. That complicates it. British transport infrastructure sucks on Sundays

Clash at the Castle had prohibitively high ticket prices, but it ultimately sold about 60k off 85k pre-registration sign-ups. I don’t find that AEW number particularly encouraging.

I assume they picked the date because they got it cheap.

Show should deliver if you can easily get to it. The UK guys are some of the best in the world right now. PAC, Willy, ZSJ, Hayter, etc all should be showcased heavily. And to pack this place they will need to do a really stacked show. With really no limit for the size of the crowd this is where you do a once in a lifetime style show.

Still honestly would not be shocked to see it headlined by Nigel vs Dragon one more time.  Ton of rust on Nigel, but if he wants another match, that is the one to do as these two worked fucking magic.  

It’s August bank holiday weekend, so that will negate the Monday work issue for a lot of people.

I don’t think it’s necessary to load the card up with every British wrestler possible. But the whole “hometown hero”/patriotism thing has always sucked to me.

Apr 7, 2023 12:21:45 GMT NATH45 said:

If this thread is teaching me anything, is that AEW fans even presented with the biggest show of the company's history will make up any excuse they can to avoid seeing the light of day. 

I hope the overall fanbase doesn't think like that, all because they didn't want to be inconvenienced in anyway.

I travel, I know it's not always fun, and those days are long. I live 2 hours from the Melbourne International Airport and you need to be there 3 hours before take off to check in. By the time I'm boarding the plane, I've usually been away from home for a good 5 or 6 hours at this point. I've had 36 hour travel days as I don't count the disrupted sleep on the flight, and I usually still have all the energy in the world to be out sight-seeing a few hours after checking into the hotel. 

Get excited guys, AEW is going to try to fill Wembley in your literal backyard, and all you can do is find reasons not be excited about it. 

I've travelled to London many times before for one day events. One example being Royal Quest, which is the NJPW show they ran in the UK in 2018. Travelling is a hassle and inconvenience but I am willing to do it in the right circumstances. I travel a lot, and it's great.

That doesn't mean I'm going to pack my bags and head down to London for any old event. Yes AEW in Wembley is fantastic and unprecedented, but I'm lukewarm on the product - closer to cold at this point - so I'm not at all invested in making that effort to see a show I most likely won't enjoy. The stadium is a turn off as well. As I said before, for me, the smaller the venue, the better. I prefer an intimate environment over being in an overwhelming crowd where I likely won't be able to see much.

People really do not understand how bad the experience of massive stadium shows are. You are likely to be squinting at screens. Forget trying to see the people in the ring at all. Looks great on TV with the massive crowds, but awful to attend live.

I am the same way with wrestling, the shows I liked the best were sub 1000 shows. Every seat is a good seat. Prefer non-national feds too as you do not get hecklers. RoH was always ruined for me live by hecklers. Was miserable at the WWE arena shows I attended. Tickets were free, and good seats, but still was just not fun between the signs and the being far enough away that you could not really see what was going on.

Apr 7, 2023 2:06:43 GMT NATH45 said:

Apr 6, 2023 23:34:54 GMT c said:

The question isn't infrastructure, but motivation. Can Tony convince 90k people all around Europe to travel to London to see his show. There are trains, but you are in a for long rides outside of the UK. And even in the UK some are looking at hours spent on a train. Looking like 8 hours from Germany or Ireland.

And while it is a tourist city, I just do not see your average tourist there on business or for a bit fun giving up a night to do AEW that is not already there for it.

There are various scenarios for how Tony will fill the stadium with casual fans but I just do not see them. I do not see 90k from all over Europe flooding the stadium, nor a swarm of tourists in London just suddenly deciding that one night to watch wrestling.

Christ you're a killjoy.

I travelled from Berlin to Paris via train when I should have gone directly to Amsterdam to meet my family just to have a weekend in Paris. If you're motivated, you'll go. I've known guys who travelled to London for a weekend from Adelaide just to see a Premier League final. They probably spent more time in the air than on the ground, but they were motivated to see it.

A flight from Berlin to London is less than 2 hours, factor a few hours to get through Heathrow and into a car, and you'll be in your hotel overlooking Hyde Park before lunch.

You calling someone else a killjoy while discussing aew. The irony is so thick

Apr 7, 2023 13:33:25 GMT c said:

People really do not understand how bad the experience of massive stadium shows are. You are likely to be squinting at screens. Forget trying to see the people in the ring at all. Looks great on TV with the massive crowds, but awful to attend live.

I am the same way with wrestling, the shows I liked the best were sub 1000 shows. Every seat is a good seat. Prefer non-national feds too as you do not get hecklers. RoH was always ruined for me live by hecklers. Was miserable at the WWE arena shows I attended. Tickets were free, and good seats, but still was just not fun between the signs and the being far enough away that you could not really see what was going on.

If I'm going to be watching on a screen, may as well do it from my own home than travel to Wembley.

Clearly I'm in the minority since thousands upon thousands of people attend these shows, but yeah I don't get it.

I feel the same way about WrestleMania. It feels like thousands of people go just so they can say "I went to Mania lol" - but so many of them can't see a thing. If you're in those high seats, you don't know what the hell those wrestlers are doing (or who they are). You may as well just watch on TV.

Obviously it makes no difference to me what other people do with their time and money, but it's just not my idea of a good time.