Always on a Type O Negative kick this time of year, was looking through their tour history and there were some good ones that I bet were amazing. I seen them live at Numbers on September 4th 2003 twenty years ago maybe 2-3 weeks after Life Is Killing Me came out. It was out of body concert experience that I’ve posted about on PW often(was on front row, center). It was at a place in downtown Houston called Numbers, which is the most TON venue in Houston(the place maybe had a max capacity of 800-900 had to be over 1,200 there you couldn’t breathe or move)

I love live concerts and love getting there early to see all the opening acts(also to get up front for the headliner). I love a good blend of different styles, certain shows with just the right mix/match of bands makes for a great night. Tash Sultana with the Teskey Brothers in 2019 was one of my favorite pairings, just those 2 bands only with no other opener was so cool to me that night.

I bet these were awesome:



Motley Crue/Type O Negative/Kings X amphitheater tour in 1994

Nine Inch Nails/Type O Negative small west coast tour in 1994

Danzig/Type O Negative at the international ballroom in Houston 1994(awesome little venue standing room only, seen Mudvayne there in 2002 amazing, bigger venue than Numbers rectangular shape prob fit 1,500-2,000 people, Numbers was square shape with stage caticornered tight intimate venue).

Queensryche/Type O Negative 1995

Marilyn Manson/Type O Negative 1 show in Germany in 2007

Hatebreed/Type O Negative in 2008 such an oddball pairing but 2 of my favorite live bands that I ever seen, together, would have been awesome to see.

What are some other historical shows you wish you were old enough/alive/able to see?

Another one I bet was rad, Judas Priest/Annihilator/Pantera smaller venue tour(if I remember correctly from the footage in
The Pantera home vids) in the UK sometime in 1990 around the time Painkiller came out.

Would have also killed to have seen the first few Ozzfests, used to love reading reviews/write ups of those shows, download Fear Factory and Slipknot Ozzfest 99 sets off of Limewire or Kazaa and R.I.P.’d my uncle and aunts computer with viruses. Look at that Ozzfest 99 that tour was just a different animal that year, that lineup damn.

The Darkness during the height of their powers in 2003 just because I ordered tickets but they never arrived due to some sort of mix up and I'm still bummed out about it. Might be back with more later.

Oct 25, 2023 1:18:59 GMT Neo Zeed said:

Would have also killed to have seen the first few Ozzfests, used to love reading reviews/write ups of those shows, download Fear Factory and Slipknot Ozzfest 99 sets off of Limewire or Kazaa and R.I.P.’d my uncle and aunts computer with viruses. Look at that Ozzfest 99 that tour was just a different animal that year, that lineup damn.

Ozzfest 99 was amazing.  Just a super dense show of great bands.

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Need to think about this a bit, but one show that absolutely stands out would have been:

Pigface in Pittsburgh in 91.  Touring for their debut disc Gub.  One of the few shows with Trent Reznor.  

Bowie / Nails Outsider tour is another one.  Had tickets but was not allowed to go by parents because was a school night.  


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Portishead at Roseland is another one.  Forgot that tickets went on sale in the morning and by the time I tried to get them that afternoon they were sold out.  

Ones that I came so close to seeing but missed:

Hatebreed in Houston December 2004 just days after Dime was murdered I imagine that was a pretty emotional performance, friends of mine had extra ticket for me and begged me to come with them but I lived 4 hours away with a 7 month old baby at the time and just couldn't make it. I tried so hard to make it happen but just was no way.

Tribal Seeds/Fortunate Youth/Hirie in Dallas in fall 2013 when all 3 were at the absolute height of their powers, just a couple weeks after Hirie debut album came out(her best), also roughly a month or so after my favorite Fortunate Youth album came out, they were in their primes, Tribal Seeds with EN Young and their original drummer still before Represent even came out. I can't imagine there were many people there. I did see all 3 multiple times from 2019-2022 but Hirie had evolved into almost entirely different genre rarely played anything off that first album the 3 times I seen them. Tribal Seeds fell apart, EN Young left the band around 2017 and vocalist started losing his voice by the time I finally got to see them in 2019 they were really flat, not the same animal at all. They had an album advertised for 2020 release that got shelved entirely and the band has had a lot of issues lately. I had a physical ticket to the show I got in the mail one of the old school Ticketmaster style tickets but it was a weeknight and my anxiety was a mess at the time and I chickened out. Would have been absolutely amazing. Thats the show I regret missing the most. 

Also missed ICP with 2 Live Crew in Houston at Fitzgeralds in 2002, I seen the flyer for the show like 2 days after it happened and was like damn. Would have for sure went to that if I knew about it.

White Zombie/Pantera/Deftones arena tour 1996

The Black Sabbath arena reunion shows they did with long hair Phil era Pantera opening circa 97-99

Tattoo The Earth 2000 always love c's posts about that one, the soundtrack CD is one of my favorite live albums.

Clash of the Titans 1991; Megadeth/Slayer/Anthrax/Alice In Chains arena tour

There was another show in the Summer/Fall of 2005 I really wanted to see Chimaira at the time and they were on this really awesome looking lineup, it was Danzig headlining but they did a 30 minute Misfits set with one of the other original members. Behemoth, Himsa, Chimaira, an Emperor side project called Mortiis, another band called The Agony Scene I don't remember. But Chimaira was my favorite band at the time and really dug Himsa and Danzig/Misfits wanted to go to that bad that year. It's a shame I never did get to see Chimaira, or Killswitch. I do regret that. 

Speaking of the NWOAHM movement I remember there was a UK tour with Killswitch/Shadow Fall/Chimaira/God Forbid/Unearth Summer 2004 I believe it was even called the New Wave Of American Heavy Metal tour or something but those were all of my favorite bands at the time and would have killed to see that.

Also in early April-May 2003 my band in high school my drummer and bass player were from the nicer richer neighborhood in Houston, under peer pressure from me and the 2 guitar players in the band they went to see Lamb of God/Chimaira show in 2003 with each other(none of the rest of the band could make it, I had to work, at Hollywood Video lol) right when Palaces and Impossibilty of Reason had both just dropped. Both of them were never the same after that show, suddenly they lost interest in playing Taproot/Chevelle/Mudvayne style stuff and were buying old school Sepultura CD's they had finally seen the light(me and the other 2 guitar players were big death metal fans but the other two kids weren't). Always thought about how amazing that show must have been, Atreyu and Avenged Sevenfold opened if I remember correctly, both relatively unknown at the time. 

Another one that comes to mind, if only because my friend/bandmate in the mid 2000s claimed to have seen it (despite being like 10), is Metallica/GNR in 1992. Fwiw I'd have went to the first show on tour in DC before all the problems started.

Of course there's also the catch that I don't think I could have named a single song by either band until 97 or 98, wouldn't become a full fledged fan of either until 2000, and can't think of many places 1992 me would have felt less comfortable than being surrounded by a bunch of black clad, longhaired, drunk druggies with their loud heavy metal music. Such a Puritan! Which is one reason I stayed out of the porn thread. Didn't want to disappoint The Kid   But I did go to the strip club! Once. At the bidding of three female friends and an alleged politician I never saw before or since. Long story.

Sign me up for Metallica/GNR 92 before the riot/pyro accident, has to be one of the definitive early 90's rock tours

Can't say I would have much interest in seeing the original Woodstock in the 60's though I'd imagine it would be a popular answer here, Woodstock 99 seemed like a massive shit show(I experienced a smaller scale version of it at the Metallica/Kid Rock/Korn show the next Summer), but Woodstock 94 is my goldilocks zone seems just right, I bet that one was a good time. Just keep the fucking mud off of me. 

Tattoo the Earth def was the most high energy concert I been too. Mudvayne's set was one of the best live sets I seen and the set of the say, which is saying something given Slayer, Hatebreed and Slipknot were also there. Hatebreed had a killer set too as they still were playing most of Satisfaction live. And Slipknot did most of the self-titled album just in a bit of a different order. Was the last tour of the early era Slipknot style where as time went out instruments would cut out because they chucked the shit for them off the stage. Like after they did wait and bleed and moved into their b-sides, more and more stuff would cut off, get toss offstage followed by the band members diving into the crowd.

This was like the peak of nu-metal IMO. This was perhaps the last truly great cheap summer fest before everything went ultra-capitalistic.

Another amazing show I tried to make but was denied was Meat Beat Manifesto at Irving Plaza. Thankfully a great recording exists of the show.

One more classic show that has a good vid that I would have loved to have made it to was Prodigy in 95 at Glastonbury. Was before Firestarter defined the band so they did their old hits too.

Rock in Rio '85, just to see Maiden.

For historic classic shows, Redding '91

Iggy Pop, Sonic Youth. Pop Will Eat Itself, Mudhoney, Blur, Nirvana, Teenage Fanclub, Babes in Toyland, Dino Jr, James, Sisters of Mercy, Ned's Atomic Dustbin, Nitzer Ebb, Catherine Wheel and more.

Nirvana and Youth both had killer sets. Was the Peak of Nirvana too IMO.

Jay-Z and Beyonce's original On the Run tour.

Judas Priest & Iron Maiden in 1982.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsters_of_Rock Most of these. Impossible to narrow down to one.

Off the top of my head:

Metallica/Queensryche- AJFA/Operation Mindcrime 1988-89
Bruce Springsteen- Darkness Tour 1978
Priest/Maiden- 1982
Rush- Hemispheres Tour 1978
Dream Theater- Any tour from 1999-2006
Slayer: Reign In Blood 1986/87 tour
Ozzy/Motorhead Tour 1981

Might post more later

Looking through this thread it hit me how awesome it would have been to have caught one of the cali-reggae shows in 2013-2015 when Stick Figure was still just an opening act. Then I found this tour poster from 2014:



Jesus take me back to that. Couldn't imagine how great those shows must have been, absolutely lethal lineup. Stick now is a festival headliner a bigger draw than any of the bands they were opening for ever were, their 2022 album knocked Marley Legand off the #1 spot for like one of the only times ever, now these bands open for them.

That whole scene peaked with Cali Roots 2019 at the bowl in Monterrey California(the same place as Monterrey pop festival where Janice Joplin performance was). Watching the videos from that festival on my back deck on Sunday mornings that Summer was what pushed me to get out and start going to concerts again(the shows I went to that year were my first concerts since Ozzfest 2004):



That 3 days captured the whole rise of that music scene at it's apex, Iya Terra and Movement were on fire, the Tash performance is one of my favorite live performance videos I've ever seen up there with the Metallica Seattle '89 show for me. UB40, Kabaka, the arrival of the Elovators, Protoje, Jesse Royal, Common Kings, The Green, Steel Pulse, and Stick Figure at their prime. What a weekend that must have been.

Also while we’re at it get me a ticket to Bob Marley & The Wailers at the Sam Houston Coliseum in Houston, Tx May 20th 1976. Just a few weeks after Rastaman Vibration album dropped, probably my favorite album ever made. 🤙 Damn I was born way too late

Taking a different route, I would have loved to have gone on tour with the 2008 Big Day Out line-up.

I went to the one show on the Gold Coast but there was just way too much to take in on one day. I would have loved to have gone over to Auckland and keep it going all the way through to Perth, checking out different acts, some of the side stuff and hanging out with different people.

There were better line-ups in BDO history but 08 had Rage Against The Machine, Bjork, Arcade Fire, LCD Soundsystem, Spoon, Unkle, Brand New, Dizzee Rascal etc. and all these local acts that were either starting off or were at the peak of their powers. It just had a really good balance and I don't think I really understood how good the line-up was until I got there.

Were there any festivals you couldn't get enough of and wish you could re-do?

For me the holy grail of concerts is ProgPower USA. It's the only regular power metal festival outside of Europe, so they tend to get great lineups. A lot of bands play special sets, usually an entire album. I was fortunate enough to attend in 2019.

Most of these events up to 2016 are must see. Special shout outs to 2014 where my favourite album was played in its entirety (Stratovarius - Visions), and 2015 for Falconer's final ever live show.

Seeing Metallica any time in the 80s would have been special, particularly late 80s. Ditto for Slayer.

Oct 26, 2023 19:14:10 GMT Neo Zeed said:

Another one I bet was rad, Judas Priest/Annihilator/Pantera smaller venue tour(if I remember correctly from the footage in
The Pantera home vids) in the UK sometime in 1990 around the time Painkiller came out.

That sounds amazing. Annihilator are one of my favourite thrash bands based on their first two albums alone. In 1990 only the first would have dropped but that's enough for a killer set.

Oct 26, 2023 19:52:04 GMT Baker said:

Judas Priest & Iron Maiden in 1982.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsters_of_Rock Most of these. Impossible to narrow down to one.

Priest and Maiden in 1982 sounds phenomenal.

I'm not as enamored by these Monsters of Rock lineups as I expected. 1988 is the one that stands out the most: Maiden, Megadeth, Guns N Roses and Helloween is a powerful four.

My answer for this will probably never change. I had the chance to get floor tickets to System of a Down & The Mars Volta in Toronto. However I already had a ticket to the Vans Warped Tour that was on the same day and I decided to just stick with that.

Warped Tour was fine but I had gone previous years and would go again, and it wasn't the best one I went to. And all the bands I saw there I have seen at least once since.

I passed on SOAD & Mars Volta because I figured they were big enough that they would tour again and I would see them. Both either never toured near me again or broke up or both.

20 years later and I'm still mad about that decision.

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TOOL was just here in Edmonton and I wasn't able to get good tickets. By the time I got through it was basically standing room left. I've never seen them live and have always wanted to.

EDIT: just decided to read a review of the show and I'm glad I didn't go. They only played 12 songs and 6 of them were from Fear Innoculum. They also didn't play any classics or singles they are known for, there was a 10 minute intermission, and phones were banned. Maynard threatened to stop playing and leave if they saw phones out.

Glad I didn't go. Fucking losers.

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I had two floor tickets to Rage Against The Machine in Calgary. Bought them in February 2020. If anyone remembers what happened in March 2020....yeah....delayed, delayed, canceled, re-announced, delayed again, Zach de la Rocha breaks his ankle, canceled. Another band I've never seen and I'm pissed about that one too.

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We have the best luck in the world because my wife and I also had floor tickets to Foo Fighters in Penticton and a month after we bought those, Taylor Hawkins died and they canceled the whole tour. Now they have finally announced another tour and they aren't coming anywhere near us (yet). Might never see them either. I'm not too broken up about it but it is my wife's favourite band, so..

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As for bands or shows I wasn't alive for or never would have had the chance to see due to age or whatever, Led Zeppelin is top of my list. I don't know exactly what show I would want to hop in a time machine and go see, but they're easily my #1. Maybe their show at MSG in 1970 or one of their shows on the Japan tour, or if I'm feeling like seeing John Bonham coked out of his mind and playing like a nutjob, I'd go to an LA show in the late 70s or something.

Nirvana is also up there. I think it would have been cool to be present at their MTV Unplugged show, or see them in a smaller venue like RIGHT before Nevermind blew up. I think that was Nirvana at their absolute best. Kurt had achieved the status he was striving for, the band was a tight unit at that point, and Kurt hadn't yet freaked the fuck out due to the band's popularity erupting overnight. Some 300-ish person venue in LA or Seattle around that time would be perfect imo.

Neo Zeed, who exactly were Queensryche? I've never in my life heard of this band, yet I'm now starting to see videos on social media almost daily talking about this band.

Oct 27, 2023 14:41:24 GMT N A T H said:

Neo Zeed, who exactly were Queensryche? I've never in my life heard of this band, yet I'm now starting to see videos on social media almost daily talking about this band.

Progressive style hair metal band that hit it big with Operation Mindcrime album had a few big 80’s hits Silent Lucidity being the big one. I was never a fan until recent years came around to liking them a lot, Just another rainy night, eyes of a stranger, jet city woman, excellent 80’s rock tracks. For them to have Type O Negative open for their arena tour is a fabulous mix/contrast of live bands that I would have loved. Very different bands but the contrast of styles between them is perfect and would have been killer to see, especially in 1995

Operation Mindcrime is masterpiece.

Oct 26, 2023 15:53:16 GMT Big Pete said:

Taking a different route, I would have loved to have gone on tour with the 2008 Big Day Out line-up.

I went to the one show on the Gold Coast but there was just way too much to take in on one day. I would have loved to have gone over to Auckland and keep it going all the way through to Perth, checking out different acts, some of the side stuff and hanging out with different people.

There were better line-ups in BDO history but 08 had Rage Against The Machine, Bjork, Arcade Fire, LCD Soundsystem, Spoon, Unkle, Brand New, Dizzee Rascal etc. and all these local acts that were either starting off or were at the peak of their powers. It just had a really good balance and I don't think I really understood how good the line-up was until I got there.

Were there any festivals you couldn't get enough of and wish you could re-do?

Some of those BDO line-ups were out of this world. 

94 - Soundgarden, Ramones, Pumpkins.. 
99 - Hole, Manson, Korn, FatBoy Slim..
00 - RHCP, NIN, Foo Fighters, Blink 182..  

Prince

Journey Raised on Radio tour

Elvis in the Astrodome

Oct 28, 2023 3:30:00 GMT bodyslam said:

Prince

Journey Raised on Radio tour

Elvis in the Astrodome

Good one! Selena in the Astrodome is another great Dome show to mark for the time travel.

Baker's link to that festival damn those were some great lineups. I see that the 1992 ACDC live album/VHS was recorded from one of those, I always thought that was a different show, the same one from the Pantera Moscow home video but it's not.

Which reminds me of that Moscow show, INSANE amount of people there it was the first Western concert held there after the Berlin wall came down:



Okay so September 1991, we're talking about pre-Vulgar Pantera opening the show, The Black Crows, Metallica just weeks/days after dropping the Black album(they only played Sandman and Sad But True, the rest was all first 4 albums setlist) while they were at their sharpest before 2.5-3 years of nonstop worldwide touring for that album completely changed everything about them and blew out James Hetfield's voice, then ACDC closing the show in front of like half a million concert starved Germans.

After all these years I would comfortably say this was the best version of Pantera ever caught on film. I love the way it was shot and their performance for those 4 songs is one of the few heavy metal things that still gives me goosebumps and makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. That's Pantera right there. With a short 20 minute 4 song set they went full pedal to the medal for the full set and poured it all out, LOVE opening sets like that. Also never fully appreciated or noticed this was the 1 and only time Pantera and Metallica played together, my 2 favorite metal bands for sure.