Also I love the idea of System looking at this thread going "look at what they have to do to mimick a fraction of our power"

I 100% modeled my character off Chris Jericho too.

I def jacked his c'mon BAYBAY foot on the chest pin.

This thread is the gift that keeps on giving. Really taking me back...

Jan 7, 2024 2:16:20 GMT @ness said:

1. I actually had to "ban" animal based offense for a while because I was a bitch and it hurt. Boston CRAB, CAMEL Clutch... dude doing that in a shoot isn't fun. 

2. I hate stories like this because every person in the IWC supposedly held real shows with audiences. 

3. weird mix of shoot/call it in the ring.

4. The Parents started not liking it.

5. Yeah can't imagine having a bond with middle/high schoolers hanging out with your little kid

6. Ain't it convenient how they always just get home when you drop your brother on his head and he's in pain screaming? And they catch you standing there like Toru Yano. Every damn time.

1. Told you they were the two most painful moves! No bans here though. Cuz I was a TUFF GUY.
2. Our "audience" were the kids not wrestling at the moment. Only thing to draw around here was LAWLERMANIA (same audience btw). 
3. Yep.
4. Parents never did like it here. Didn't matter the parents. They all had a "NO WRESTLING" policy that we broke every time they left. We'd bounce from house to house depending on whose parents were away.
6. Best is when you hear the parents coming and everybody scampers to sit on the couch like a bunch of choir boys while sweating profusely as if we'd all just ran a marathon. No parents were ever fooled.
5. Similar here as we ranged from high schoolers to elementary schoolers. It's no wonder the young kids didn't want to take my stuff. 

Jan 7, 2024 12:39:57 GMT NATH45 said:

I had a sick elbow drop. But of course no one ever saw it. I used to step up onto the corner of my bed and spring off and drop a big Kairi Sane Elbow onto a pillow.

I broke at least 2 legs on that bed.

I'm with @ness in being a bed frame breaker. Put my brother through our PARENTS bed. They were not happy.
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Books were used as weapons. They made a nice "CLONK" sound. You didn't even have to swing hard. I never did. Just a snap of the wrist would do the trick. Don't remember using textbooks (though I probably did). My go to was this encyclopedia set I had devoured as a kid. 

Doing moves to pillows on beds was another childhood staple. Once again my parents bed. My brother and I had a bunk beds for a long time. Sucked for wrestling related activity. One of my beloved wrestling figure leagues actually started out as a 'doing moves on pillows' league.

Never did any trampoline wrestling but I support it. We were pretty softcore but are you kidding? Trampoline > All because bounce.

Giving myself the Barry Horowitz pat on the back for never buying any Backyard Wrestling videos. Even as a dumb kid I knew they were even dumber kids. 

Jan 8, 2024 2:36:11 GMT Baker said:

This thread is the gift that keeps on giving. Really taking me back...

Jan 7, 2024 2:16:20 GMT @ness said:

1. I actually had to "ban" animal based offense for a while because I was a bitch and it hurt. Boston CRAB, CAMEL Clutch... dude doing that in a shoot isn't fun. 

2. I hate stories like this because every person in the IWC supposedly held real shows with audiences. 

3. weird mix of shoot/call it in the ring.

4. The Parents started not liking it.

5. Yeah can't imagine having a bond with middle/high schoolers hanging out with your little kid

6. Ain't it convenient how they always just get home when you drop your brother on his head and he's in pain screaming? And they catch you standing there like Toru Yano. Every damn time.

1. Told you they were the two most painful moves! No bans here though. Cuz I was a TUFF GUY.
2. Our "audience" were the kids not wrestling at the moment. Only thing to draw around here was LAWLERMANIA (same audience btw). 
3. Yep.
4. Parents never did like it here. Didn't matter the parents. They all had a "NO WRESTLING" policy that we broke every time they left. We'd bounce from house to house depending on whose parents were away.
6. Best is when you hear the parents coming and everybody scampers to sit on the couch like a bunch of choir boys while sweating profusely as if we'd all just ran a marathon. No parents were ever fooled.
5. Similar here as we ranged from high schoolers to elementary schoolers. It's no wonder the young kids didn't want to take my stuff. 

Jan 7, 2024 12:39:57 GMT NATH45 said:

I had a sick elbow drop. But of course no one ever saw it. I used to step up onto the corner of my bed and spring off and drop a big Kairi Sane Elbow onto a pillow.

I broke at least 2 legs on that bed.

I'm with @ness in being a bed frame breaker. Put my brother through our PARENTS bed. They were not happy.
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Books were used as weapons. They made a nice "CLONK" sound. You didn't even have to swing hard. I never did. Just a snap of the wrist would do the trick. Don't remember using textbooks (though I probably did). My go to was this encyclopedia set I had devoured as a kid. 

Doing moves to pillows on beds was another childhood staple. Once again my parents bed. My brother and I had a bunk beds for a long time. Sucked for wrestling related activity. One of my beloved wrestling figure leagues actually started out as a 'doing moves on pillows' league.

Never did any trampoline wrestling but I support it. We were pretty softcore but are you kidding? Trampoline > All because bounce.

Giving myself the Barry Horowitz pat on the back for never buying any Backyard Wrestling videos. Even as a dumb kid I knew they were even dumber kids. 

Unrelated to wrestling but this immediately made me think of late 90s/early 2000s of having a family PC and how fascinated we all were with the desktop whenever someone came in the room <_<

Is the figure four the most common submission hold for this environment. Seemed like it was as standard as a ddt really. Everyone did it and I'd be surprised of a ff + reversal wasn't always on the menu. I think this is where I started questioning things. Hey it doesn't really hurt when you reverse it.

Course every time I say it some braindead hard-r chimes in that we OBVIOUSLY were doing it wrong. And no offense to those types but I once asked my Dad to get info about the HBK Wrestling Academy when he TDY'd in San Antonio at the time. He never did which basically makes me a professional wrestler so I'd KNOW thanks.

Jan 14, 2024 5:10:17 GMT @ness said:

Is the figure four the most common submission hold for this environment.

Gotta be. I wonder if it was a similar evolution for you all, but I didn't always do it the Flair spinning way. The spin is a pretty easy move, but it seemed more complicated than it actually was at first. Intimidating. I started out doing a pretty clunky version, some combination of the Hogan way (the step over) and an ugly while already sitting (think the Mr. Perfect leg lariat position at SummerSlam '91 just before Bret reverses it into a Sharpshooter). The first time I spun into it was, like, oh, there's not much to this, huh? A small epiphany. 

Side note: the fact that figure four when reversed actually hurts the person who reversed it more than the person who applied the hold to begin with does kind of explain why the guy who had the move reversed does get to the ropes to break hold quickly. I mean, the one reversing it could just lay flat and really "hurt" opponent, preventing him from breaking the hold, but obviously you don't want to be stuck in it too long.😂

How "serious" was your operation? Was there anything preplanned ahead of time or was it basically hey so and so's here, lets do a chokeslam counter into a knife edge CHOP!!! Just 20 minutes of doing moves to each other essentially. In my mind it was always an instant classic but was probably mixed with long rest periods because we're all skinny fat dweebs with no stamina. I coordinated, had the belt, provided the theme songs... I was the Vince McMahon of my organization.

Ya know something SOMETIMES that's what it sounds like when wrestlers do those indy freedom promos.

"I carried this place on my BACK!!"

- Ness about his "fed" of 5 or 6 people

Jan 21, 2024 17:04:23 GMT Leper Messiah said:

Side note: the fact that figure four when reversed actually hurts the person who reversed it more than the person who applied the hold to begin with does kind of explain why the guy who had the move reversed does get to the ropes to break hold quickly. I mean, the one reversing it could just lay flat and really "hurt" opponent, preventing him from breaking the hold, but obviously you don't want to be stuck in it too long.😂

Blew my mind that a reversal actually hurt. Thought that was some kayfabe malarky. Getting reversed hurt!

I wanna see the end results of us little kids mutilating our bodies doing moves wrong. Reversing it without cooperating broke Timmy's ankle

Can't believe I forgot to mention this Great Controversy earlier in the thread when I touched on my stubborn refusal to submit. That is, until the one time Adam slapped on a Camel Clutch so tight I was desperate to submit...but couldn't! Anyway, the recent "Babyfaces Submitting" thread got me to thinking about tapping out, and my mind in turn went to yet another controversy from my Backyard Wrestling days...

One time in late 95-early 96 this guy Chris and his friends joined us regulars for a little rasslin' in Original Baker's basement. Chris was a neighborhood kid who got along with most of us well enough, but wasn't a clique member, or even really a peripheral member. There was some overlap, but we largely traveled in different circles. Yet he showed up at Original Baker's on this one fateful day. We had a match. He had me in some lame submission I wouldn't have quit to in a million years. But I knew how to work, brother. So I pounded the floor to build drama as I had seen wrestlers pound the mat to build drama on tv for 9 glorious years. This was not unusual. I did it all the time. But this time was different. Chris released his hold and claimed to have won by "tap out." I had never heard of such nonsense so I'm like "WTF? That's not a real thing. Stop being an Aesop." He tried explaining how tapping out was indeed a real thing. A few of his friends were there. They backed him while my people took my side. It turned into a big debate. I think he left thinking he had submitted the mighty Baker while my friends and I KNEW the truth. This was the first I ever heard of Tapping Out.

Chris might have been ahead of the curve when it came to tapping out, but I don't remember him joining us again in any wrestling games. Wonder if I got him blackballed for being a LIAR? That is entirely possible. If so, sorry Chris! Now I know tapping out was a real thing. But I didn't back then. And that's a shoot, brother.

"But couldn't"

Can relate. Something about a neck crank submission just seems to paralyze ya. I literally could NOT tap despite desperately wanting to.

Jan 29, 2024 23:15:53 GMT @ness said:

"But couldn't"

Can relate. Something about a neck crank submission just seems to paralyze ya. I literally could NOT tap despite desperately wanting to.

Dec 28, 2023 2:07:27 GMT Baker said:

One of my big things during the mid 90s neighborhood wrestling boom was a stubborn refusal to submit. I flat out refused to quit. Wouldn't even submit to the lethal Crab no matter how much it hurt. I must have been insufferable during my wrestling 'career.'  I really was a real life version of one of my beloved 'annoying' heels. Anyway, lapsed fan Adam, who was one of the few neighborhood kids not to join in on the mid 90s wrestling bandwagon, comes over one day when I'm doing my "No one can make me quit! bwahahaha" schtick. He proposes the Camel Clutch. I instantly accept his challenge, having already survived this dated hold multiple times when applied by others. But this was different. Adam really wrenched that sucker in. Within seconds I'm trying to scream "I QUIT." I say "trying" because he was pulling so hard I COULDN'T SPEAK! I thought he was gonna break my back (and make me humble). Tapping out hadn't invented/known yet so I'm just DYING in this dude's Camel Clutch. I can't escape. I can't get him off me by submitting. I'm just stuck there in excruciating pain. I don't even remember how that torturous experience ended, but I became a whole lot more selective about my Submission Challenges after that.

In hindsight I should've been a boot wiper.

Feb 21, 2024 1:21:45 GMT @ness said:

In hindsight I should've been a boot wiper.

Like Regal? If so, we all should. 

Serious NUCLEAR HEATZ if you used shoes on the trampoline. Now I wish it was a heel gimmick like boots being brass knux or something. Hard to be a bad ass in white socks I admit.

My brothers and I had TCW: Trampoline Championship Wrestling. We had one of those big round trampolines so perfect set up. Especially when we lived in Cobar and had in ground trampoline so it allowed for “top rope” moves off the fence which I’m sure the neighbours loved.

We had two championships I don’t remember either, but I do remember my second youngest brother choosing the wrestling name “Tool McTool” 🤷🏻‍♀️ 🤣.
We could do a cool Spanish fly together. Other than accidently giving him a dragon suplex OFF the trampoline (he very luckily landed “safely”) we had fun.

My oldest younger brother got the last laugh of me throwing him around the trampoline when he was younger as he now towers over me :lol:.

I dunno if I ever touched up on it, but we took old boxes from the garage and used them as makeshift TABLES. Then of course always landing on the edges LMAO. There wasn't any intentional to hurt, but best believe I'm not doing an effortless Jacknife.

My career began and ended after one day. Bumps weren't really a problem. Took a scoop slam, chokeslam and DDT on a tramp with ease and it was fun.

Figure Four Leglock? Fuuuuuuck every last bit of taking that submission. It never impressed me on TV until I actually felt it, now I wince whenever watching Flair lock it in.

This makes me a bitch ass mark, but there's a few matches I had with my brother based on memory that I'd put up against Benoit/Angle or whatever token pick you got. Like I'm not saying the match with the computer box is gonna beat the Rumble classic... but you can't deny it was a contender! If you saw that third trilogy you'd know. We'd be stars if they had Youtube back then, I just KNOW it. Like at least one of our matches would've been MOTY against ya'lls shit. The interference when Mom came out to ask what the hell is going on left our story forever unfinished. After that it was considered "gay" so I started doing moves on pillows until I too grew bored of playing with myself and the fed officially died.