Nov 26, 2024 16:53:03 GMT KING KID said:

Nov 26, 2024 16:41:27 GMT KJ said:

Wrong. It’s a 25% tariffs on items imported, not exported. That means the importer (American businesses) pays 25% more on the goods. Trump works under the idea that US businesses will order less from importers because of the fees, and that how it economically hurts them. The reality is our supply chain is dependent on these countries, so they will continue to buy and pass through the cost to consumers in the form of higher prices.

www.newsweek.com/how-tariffs-work-will-trump-plan-cause-inflation-1991653

“Trump has insisted that tariffs are paid for by foreign countries, but it is importers—companies in the U.S.—that pay tariffs, and the money goes to the U.S. Treasury. Those companies typically pass their higher costs on to their customers by hiking prices. However, tariffs also hurt the exporting countries by making their products costlier and harder to sell abroad.”

Yeah, I'll take Trumps word over somebody from newsweek writing out their TDS BS.

At this point KJ , I think we'd be better off talking to a brick wall. Kid is doubling down on his gimmick. No one can be that deliberately obtuse and I know he's not a dummy. He's doing it to goad us. 

Nov 26, 2024 16:53:03 GMT KING KID said:

Nov 26, 2024 16:41:27 GMT KJ said:

Wrong. It’s a 25% tariffs on items imported, not exported. That means the importer (American businesses) pays 25% more on the goods. Trump works under the idea that US businesses will order less from importers because of the fees, and that how it economically hurts them. The reality is our supply chain is dependent on these countries, so they will continue to buy and pass through the cost to consumers in the form of higher prices.

www.newsweek.com/how-tariffs-work-will-trump-plan-cause-inflation-1991653

“Trump has insisted that tariffs are paid for by foreign countries, but it is importers—companies in the U.S.—that pay tariffs, and the money goes to the U.S. Treasury. Those companies typically pass their higher costs on to their customers by hiking prices. However, tariffs also hurt the exporting countries by making their products costlier and harder to sell abroad.”

Yeah, I'll take Trumps word over somebody from newsweek writing out their TDS BS.

Holy shit, dude. That’s what Tariffs are. It’s not a new thing. They exist now.

You can disagree with the impact they’re going to have, but you can’t rationally say tariffs suddenly behave differently.

Nov 26, 2024 17:00:42 GMT iron maiden said:

Nov 26, 2024 16:53:03 GMT KING KID said:

Yeah, I'll take Trumps word over somebody from newsweek writing out their TDS BS.

At this point KJ , I think we'd be better off talking to a brick wall. Kid is doubling down on his gimmick. No one can be that deliberately obtuse and I know he's not a dummy. He's doing it to goad us. 

I actually think he’s a zealot who refuses to believe Trump can do anything wrong.

Remember - we’re going to be able to afford homes on one income again! 😂😂😂

I mean, I've literally been right about everything for the past 5-6 months while you guys got high on hopium. Even when majority of the country thinks like me.

But yes, I'm "the gimmick".

Nov 26, 2024 17:17:30 GMT KING KID said:

I mean, I've literally been right about everything for the past 5-6 months while you guys got high on hopium. Even when majority of the country thinks like me.

But yes, I'm "the gimmick".

You’re arguing against facts of what things are as opposed to the outcomes.

There’s no debate on what a tariff is.

The debate is how they will impact the economy.

And yeah, Trump won, and I’m glad your victory lap is going. Given how partisan you are and how you spoke/speak of the current President, I don’t think you can fault “the other side” for not sucking Trump’s cock like you do every second of the day.

Nov 26, 2024 17:20:50 GMT KJ said:

Nov 26, 2024 17:17:30 GMT KING KID said:

I mean, I've literally been right about everything for the past 5-6 months while you guys got high on hopium. Even when majority of the country thinks like me.

But yes, I'm "the gimmick".

You’re arguing against facts of what things are as opposed to the outcomes.

There’s no debate on what a tariff is.

The debate is how they will impact the economy.

And yeah, Trump won, and I’m glad your victory lap is going. Given how partisan you are and how you spoke/speak of the current President, I don’t think you can fault “the other side” for not sucking Trump’s cock like you do every second of the day.

That's it.

Biden had a higher approval rating post election approval rating than Trump has now.

Which is a great way to say pre-taking office approval ratings mean dick.

news.gallup.com/poll/326885/biden-favorability-rises-trump-dips.aspx

Nov 26, 2024 16:41:27 GMT KJ said:

Nov 26, 2024 16:34:00 GMT KING KID said:

Why do you bother lying? Like what good does that do for you? You know I'm not going to let it slide. 



nypost.com/2024/11/25/us-news/trump-promises-executive-order-imposing-25-tariff-on-all-products-from-mexico-canada/

Wrong. It’s a 25% tariffs on items imported, not exported. That means the importer (American businesses) pays 25% more on the goods. Trump works under the idea that US businesses will order less from importers because of the fees, and that how it economically hurts them. The reality is our supply chain is dependent on these countries, so they will continue to buy and pass through the cost to consumers in the form of higher prices.

www.newsweek.com/how-tariffs-work-will-trump-plan-cause-inflation-1991653

“Trump has insisted that tariffs are paid for by foreign countries, but it is importers—companies in the U.S.—that pay tariffs, and the money goes to the U.S. Treasury. Those companies typically pass their higher costs on to their customers by hiking prices. However, tariffs also hurt the exporting countries by making their products costlier and harder to sell abroad.”

Honestly, these are weasel words in terms of who pays. For goods to enter the country the tariff must be paid. Often there is no importer and the supplier in China with the FIS contract will have to pay the tariff.

The actual mechanism of who actually pays the tarrif is irrelevant, because as you say it is essentially a price rise in the vicinity of 25%

I can see the attraction of making imports prohibitively expensive, but protectionism stirs innovation and makes local companies stupid and lazy.

I do get the Mexico thing though, it's hard to get companies to preference US jobs versus building a factory across the border with half the Labor cost... I still wouldn't impose tarrifs though.

I would also be sympathetic with some form sales tax on companies who declare revenue overseas.

If I wanted to I could set up a company in a low/zero tax economy and import all my machinery through that third party quarantining all my profit at zero tax. Tax law is bullshit because it is illegal to avoid tax but legal to minimise it but nobody will state the clear difference.

MSNBC blindsided by Al Sharpton getting 500K from Kamala's campaign for an "interview"?

You mean, they didn't know Al Sharpton was a scheisty POS before they hired him?

You mean, The DEI Godfather AND Kamala's campaign scammed MSNBC and the people that work there?

Give me a break. Only reason we know any of this and there's shock and disappointment from MSNBC is because SHE LOST!

Let it all come out. One by one, the left will fall.



nypost.com/2024/11/26/media/al-sharptons-acceptance-of-kamala-harris-campaigns-500k-donation-a-bridge-too-far-for-msnbc-colleagues/

Not to bring up the dead argument, but the idea Elon has created a free speech utopia is a right wing myth.

Only myths are genders that aren't male or female.

Nov 27, 2024 16:18:40 GMT KING KID said:

Only myths are genders that aren't male or female.

Free speech means you can be wrong. That's been a huge point Musk has made.

I don't get it, someone just randomly typed " cisgender " replying to his meme?

Nov 27, 2024 18:51:49 GMT NATH45 said:

I don't get it, someone just randomly typed " cisgender " replying to his meme?

They were proving the point that Musk censors language that doesn’t align with his worldview.

She's drunk right? Looks like a hell of a bender she's been on.
I can't believe anyone thought this video was a good idea.

She sounds drunk but if she is, I don't blame her. 

Nov 27, 2024 20:25:43 GMT iNCY said:

She's drunk right? Looks like a hell of a bender she's been on.
I can't believe anyone thought this video was a good idea.

Well her first picture post losing the election was with her and a wine glass. The rumors she's an alcoholic are probably true.

Donchueva let somun take yer powr.

I worked at a nightclub for years. This is how they spoke at the end of the night. Again, I don't blame her.

Nov 27, 2024 20:55:16 GMT iron maiden said:

I worked at a nightclub for years. This is how they spoke at the end of the night. Again, I don't blame her.

This is our sitting Vice President. This is a travesty. 

I have a feeling I'll parrot that exact sentiment about 47 multiple times over the next few years.

Good debrief on the Harris campaign team recapping what went wrong.

Harris’s judgement being terrible is a consistent thread throughout.

This still falls on Biden, though.

Go write your book and be done with it while people still care.

Nov 28, 2024 0:16:05 GMT NATH45 said:

Go write your book and be done with it while people still care.

I mean, staffers discussing it and being open is how you keep the base.

Nov 28, 2024 0:18:54 GMT KJ said:

Nov 28, 2024 0:16:05 GMT NATH45 said:

Go write your book and be done with it while people still care.

I mean, staffers discussing it and being open is how you keep the base.

Give it a year, and no one will care.

Nov 28, 2024 0:25:54 GMT NATH45 said:

Nov 28, 2024 0:18:54 GMT KJ said:

I mean, staffers discussing it and being open is how you keep the base.

Give it a year, and no one will care.

Maybe, maybe not. We're still discussing the errors of Hillary, so I don't think I agree.


Regardless, the podcast they were is 100% partisan liberal. It's the exact place to have that conversation.

I can't wait for the line on a hip podcast about being a victim of the 2 big 'isms - racism and sexism, all while some Gen Z host nods along " slay Queen.. no cap. "

Nov 28, 2024 0:57:36 GMT NATH45 said:

I can't wait for the line on a hip podcast about being a victim of the 2 big 'isms - racism and sexism, all while some Gen Z host nods along " slay Queen.. no cap. "

Uhm ... sure. Have to be female Gen Z, of course.

The male "no cap" "rizz" "Ohio" crowd voted Trump.

IMO it's still too early and raw to do a deep dive as to why Harris lost, as right now analysis is still here:

and whatever the solution is, I'm glad I'm not in charge of messaging because I have absolutely no idea how to do it.

People are worried about cost of living? Biden got the rail union the sick days they were about to strike for, lowered prices for medication on Medicare and capped costs for insulin, her platform contained $25k for first time homebuyers, anti price gouging measures

but still voters were all "I dunno"

oh and also there's this

plus

Texas Tribune | A third woman has died under Texas’ abortion ban as doctors reach for riskier miscarriage treatments

Hope dialed his mother, a former physician, who was unequivocal. “You need a D&C,” she told them, referring to dilation and curettage, a common procedure for first-trimester miscarriages and abortions. If a doctor could remove the remaining tissue from her uterus, the bleeding would end.
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But because D&Cs are also used to end pregnancies, the procedure has become tangled up in state legislation that restricts abortions. In Texas, any doctor who violates the strict law risks up to 99 years in prison. Porsha’s is the fifth case ProPublica has reported in which women died after they did not receive a D&C or its second-trimester equivalent, a dilation and evacuation; three of those deaths were in Texas.

Texas doctors told ProPublica the law has changed the way their colleagues see the procedure; some no longer consider it a first-line treatment, fearing legal repercussions or dissuaded by the extra legwork required to document the miscarriage and get hospital approval to carry out a D&C.