If it was your choice of running the WWE who would YOUR champions be right now?

Here's mine:

WWE Universal Champion: Samoa Joe
WWE Intercontinental champion: The Miz
Raw Woman's Champion: Bayley
Raw Tag Team Champions: The Bar
WWE Cruiserweight Champion: The Brian Kendrick.

WWE Champion: A.J Styles
WWE United States Champion: Shinsuke Nakamura
Smackdown Woman's Champion: Natalya Neidhart
Smackdown Tag Team Champions: Breezango 

WWE Universal Champion: Samoa Joe or Ambrose
WWE Intercontinental champion: Rollins
Raw Woman's Champion: Mickie (win #7, take that, Trish!)
Raw Tag Team Champions: Rollins and Reigns
WWE Cruiserweight Champion: Cedric Alexander

WWE Champion: A.J Styles
WWE United States Champion: Tye Dillinger
Smackdown Woman's Champion: Lana (just to piss people off) or Carmella
Smackdown Tag Team Champions: Breezango or Bludgeon brothers

Ya know that meme of HHH holding all the belts (even the Divas)? Do that with Bliss.

WWE Universal Champion: Braun Strowman
WWE Intercontinental Champion: Vacant
WWE Tag Team Champions: Seth Rolins & Dean Ambrose
WWE Woman's Champion: Bayley
WWE Cruiserweight Champion: Vacant

WWE Champion: AJ Styles
WWE United States Champion: Vacant
SmackDown Woman's Champion: Becky Lynch
SmackDown Tag Team Champions: The Usos

The mid card belts don't serve any purpose anymore, so nix them. Give the fans what they want and put the belt on the two most over guys on either side of the roster and two polar opposites so fans can have the best of both worlds. WWE has it spot on with the tag division, there's no need to change something that doesn't need fixing. Both Bayley & Becky deserve better, but really it isn't their fault that the women's division is so lackluster. They need to bring more woman up and forget about bringing them through NXT. As long as they can work and have a good look, just bring them through.

Universal - Samoa Joe
IC - Roman
RAW Women’s - Emma
RAW Tag - Dean & Seth
Cruiserweight - Cedric Alexander

WWE Title - Kevin Owens
US - Sami
SD Women’s - Becky
SD Tag - Usos

Big Pete, without mid card belts, what's the point of hiring guys like Dillinger and Ziggler?

WWE Universal Champion: Samoa Joe
WWE Intercontinental champion: Elias
Raw Woman's Champion: Sasha Banks(Heel)
Raw Tag Team Champions: The Bar
WWE Cruiserweight Champion: Cedric Alexander

WWE Champion: A.J Styles
WWE United States Champion: Jinder Mahal (WWE could get about the same results in India and it would work into his gimmick better.)
Smackdown Woman's Champion: Becky Lynch
Smackdown Tag Team Champions: The Usos

Oct 16, 2017 16:33:13 GMT Mistress said:

Big Pete , without mid card belts, what's the point of hiring guys like Dillinger and Ziggler?

Because they're quality performers. The presence of a mid-card belt doesn't make that any less true and if anything they'd benefit more by having lofty ambitions. Making them perennial silver medalists just makes them come across as losers.

Oct 16, 2017 23:43:02 GMT Big Pete said:

Oct 16, 2017 16:33:13 GMT Mistress said:

Big Pete , without mid card belts, what's the point of hiring guys like Dillinger and Ziggler?

Because they're quality performers. The presence of a mid-card belt doesn't make that any less true and if anything they'd benefit more by having lofty ambitions. Making them perennial silver medalists just makes them come across as losers.

Fighting endless matches with no endgame sounds more along the lines of being a loser to me.
Neither guy is wold champ material, so what else can they do? Match after match will just become pointless since they won't be going anywhere

Oct 16, 2017 23:56:53 GMT Mistress said:

Oct 16, 2017 23:43:02 GMT Big Pete said:

Because they're quality performers. The presence of a mid-card belt doesn't make that any less true and if anything they'd benefit more by having lofty ambitions. Making them perennial silver medalists just makes them come across as losers.

Fighting endless matches with no endgame sounds more along the lines of being a loser to me.
Neither guy is wold champ material, so what else can they do? Match after match will just become pointless since they won't be going anywhere

They can still have programs against the World Champions, you can still book King of the Ring tournaments and use those to push guys and they can always bolster the tag team division. It would also force the bookers to be more creative instead of relying on two guys competing for the silver medal.

The mid-card belts are a crutch that ultimately act as a glass ceiling. Fans don't care about them and you wind up with awkward situations like AJ Styles having to lose against Baron Corbin so he can rid himself of his unwanted obligation.

Oct 17, 2017 0:05:37 GMT Big Pete said:

Oct 16, 2017 23:56:53 GMT Mistress said:

Fighting endless matches with no endgame sounds more along the lines of being a loser to me.
Neither guy is wold champ material, so what else can they do? Match after match will just become pointless since they won't be going anywhere

They can still have programs against the World Champions, you can still book King of the Ring tournaments and use those to push guys and they can always bolster the tag team division. It would also force the bookers to be more creative instead of relying on two guys competing for the silver medal.

The mid-card belts are a crutch that ultimately act as a glass ceiling. Fans don't care about them and you wind up with awkward situations like AJ Styles having to lose against Baron Corbin so he can rid himself of his unwanted obligation.

I would only want KOTR back if it was done properly like it originally was in the 90s.

I have to agree with Big Pete. I've grown to hate the mid-card titles. One thing I especially dislike is when they take a guy who's ascended to become world champion and after he loses the belt, he drops down and becomes the US or IC champion. They have done it with Roman, KO, and AJ recently. It doesn't make those titles look stronger, it makes the guy holding it look too good to be stuck in that position.

then, half of every roster should be fired...
you cant have 50 guys fighting for 1 belt.

Smackdown
WWE: AJ Styles- he needs to be the face of that brand. While he may not have the mic skills of a Cena he has a good look and a good presence to represent the company in appearances and can put on great main events.
US: Bobby Roode- turn him heel and let there be a glorious US champ!
Tag Team: Zayne and Owens- Steenerico as heel champs in wwe would love it!
Women's: Becky or Natalya- Love them both and if you need anger go with Nattie if you need a face go with Becky!

Raw:
Universal: Lesnar- Opposite of what AJ is on Smackdown. One brand has a show stealing fighting champion the other has a dominate champion that only makes the big appearances.
IC: Finn Balor- 14 Months ago WWE was going to trust him to establish a new world championship and carry a brand had it or been for an unfortunate injury. Since then he hasn't had much of anything and personally I don't care for the Bray Wyatt feud. He could be a great IC champ.
Tag Team: Rollins and Ambrose- only until the revival is back though!
Women's: Asuka- after she debuts give her the belt and let the dominance from NXT continue.

Raw
Universal Champion: Samoa Joe
Intercontinental Champion: Finn Balor
Raw Women's Champion: Nia or Emma
Raw Tag Team Champions: Rollins & Ambrose
Cruiserweight Champion: Cedric Alexander or Jack Gallagher

Smackdown Live
WWE Champion: AJ Styles or Kevin Owens
United States Champion: Tye Dillinger or Sami Zayn
Smackdown Live Women's Champion: Becky Lynch
Smackdown Live Tag Team Champions: Fashion Police

Oct 17, 2017 1:36:27 GMT Mistress said:

then, half of every roster should be fired...
you cant have 50 guys fighting for 1 belt.

Why not?

That should be the goal of the show, to determine who the best is, not to determine who the best curtain jerkers are. Creating more competition only makes the prize that much greater and will get the fans more invested. It will also mean that angles and gimmicks will have to be more engaging and creative to stand-out.

Even so, it would never be 50 guys. Raw barely has 50 guys on their roster (including part-timers and Cruiserweights) and considering you need at least 10 tag teams to have a proper tag team division the number would be at most 30 guys. A few of them can be jobbers, a few of them can be stars and the rest can go up and down based on how they're being received by the audience.

WWE Universal Champion: Samoa Joe
WWE IC Champion: The Miz
WWE RAW Tag Team Champions: Gallows & Anderson
WWE Woman Champion: Sasha Banks(As a heel & keep the title until at least Wrestlemania.)
WWE Crusierweight Champion: Cedric Alexander

WWE Champion: Kevin Owens or AJ Styles
WWE US Champion: Rusev, Sami Zayn, or Bobby Roode 
WWE Smackdown Tag Team Champions: The Fashion Police
WWE Smackdown Woman Champion: Becky Lynch 

WWE Universal Champion: Brock Lesnar
WWE Intercontinental champion: Finn Balor
Raw Women's Champion: Alexa Bliss
Raw Tag Team Champions: The Club
WWE Cruiserweight Champion: Neville

WWE Champion: A.J Styles
WWE United States Champion: Dolph Ziggler
Smackdown Woman's Champion: Becky Lynch
Smackdown Tag Team Champions: The Usos.

Oct 18, 2017 6:49:21 GMT Big Pete said:

Oct 17, 2017 1:36:27 GMT Mistress said:

then, half of every roster should be fired...
you cant have 50 guys fighting for 1 belt.

Why not?

That should be the goal of the show, to determine who the best is, not to determine who the best curtain jerkers are. Creating more competition only makes the prize that much greater and will get the fans more invested. It will also mean that angles and gimmicks will have to be more engaging and creative to stand-out.

Even so, it would never be 50 guys. Raw barely has 50 guys on their roster (including part-timers and Cruiserweights) and considering you need at least 10 tag teams to have a proper tag team division the number would be at most 30 guys. A few of them can be jobbers, a few of them can be stars and the rest can go up and down based on how they're being received by the audience.

It's not worth it. Many will just fight match after match with their career going nowhere....
The point of joining wwe is to be a champion. If that's not going to happen, why even bother signing up?

The point of joining wwe is to be a champion. If that's not going to happen, why even bother signing up?

To get paid.

Having to carry around a prop that doesn't make any difference to their bottom line is usually a hindrance.

It's not worth it. Many will just fight match after match with their career going nowhere....

This is already happening. Guys are only being featured in a certain way because they're competing for championships that aren't considered important.

I accept that fans are creatures of habit and are resistant to change. However the arguments for the mid-card championships lack substance.

If you want to get in the HOF, you'll need to win a belt. And you can make good money...and even more...on the indies and in Japan...and hold title gold.

So again...why join wwe?

Yeah not every guy will be world champ but walking out as a former IC or US champ is Atleast something. But I can't find a good reason to join a WWE with no mid card belts. You could make good money, with less restrictions and freedom to work your own schedule on the indies and overseas.

Why walk in to WWE just to be run ragged week after week with nothing to show for it?

A wwe without mid card belts would be boring as hell and pointless

If you want to get in the HOF, you'll need to win a belt.

Not necessarily.

There are many Hall of Famers who didn't hold a title as a singles wrestler.

Strongbow, Blassie, Monsoon, Ladd, Putski, Wizard, Scicluna, Albano, Snuka, Rodz, Kowalski, Studd, Race, Ventura, JYD, Orton Jr, Orndorff, Volkoff, Atlas, Rhodes, Fuji, Johnson, Watts, B. Ware, Dibiase, Duggan, Sunny, Farooq, Roberts, Zbyszko etc. never held singles gold yet they all made the Hall of Fame.

The Hall of Fame is a life time achievement event, it isn't weighed on how many belts you won, it's weighed on whether you're available and whether you'll draw interest.

And you can make good money...and even more...on the indies and in Japan...and hold title gold.

So again...why join wwe?

You can make better money in the WWE, they'll cover your medical costs, they will handle your bookings, you will gain more exposure, have the opportunity to work in-front of big crowds, work on skills that will make you more employable and have the satisfaction of working in the big leagues.

A wwe without mid card belts would be boring as hell and pointless

How can you say it's pointless when other prizes exist?

If you arent working towards a title, then you shouldnt be in wrestling. thats the endgame...to win belts. any career becomes redundant when you're doing the wsame thing day in and day out...wash, rinse, repeat...

everyone wants to be a champion. no one wants to settle for just being a name on a roster. anyone who says different is a damn liar.

'Everyone' wants to be a star, whether a belt comes into it is neither here or there.

I'm loving and totally agree with Big Pete's take on this.

In hindsight, maybe the IC title should've stayed absorbed into the WHC. Nothing that memorable was added to its legacy after that point.

And ask Dean Ambrose how great being IC champion is. Involved in a meaningless feud that was eventually moved tothe pre-show at Wrestlemania while guys like AJ and Seth are featured in key non-title matches. Also, after winning the title 4 or 5 times, what is the point? Ask Razor about that. Left for more money and a lighter schedule.

Now, I am not against mid card titles. I think they just need overhauling and better booking. Make the IC and US title an elevation for guys to prove themselves main event worthy like the 80’s and early 90’s.

In this day and age, I feel like the "midcard" title needs to not be a stepping stone/silver medal title at all... rather, it needs to be distinctly differentiated from the top world title. Kinda like the X Division title in it's early days, or maybe the ROH Pure title (I don't know much about that, so I could be way off base)... something that's different enough that it can at times seem equally (or as close as possible to equally) important as the world title.

That's never gonna happen with the IC/US titles.

There’s too many wrestlers that are belt marks in wrestling for there to be no secondary belts, but I think getting rid of MITB would help the secondary belts a lot. It’s sounds better on your resume to be “former __ champion as well.”

I’m loving Jinder’s reign, and the way they’ve handled Brock’s reign this time, like he’s Shao Kahn and you have to beat the sub boss just to get to him, rather than not acknowledge his reign.

WWE: Jinder
Universal: Brock Lesnar

IC: Seth Rollins
Give the IC some credibility, Miz is doing great but he always screams mid-card. He can work the main events with Brock gone.
Raw W: Alicia Fox
Raw Tag: The Bar

SD Tag: Breezango
SD W: Becky Lynch

Scrap Cruiserweight division/205 and make SD! three hours.
I know that seems too long, but it’s the same if you watch 205 live.
Split them evenly and have them fued with Dolph/AJ and just make the US/IC divisions the CW division unofficially like the X division.
Left over guys in tags. Get rid of the purple ropes!

why not just give WWE an option C? trade in the midcard belt for a world title shot?

WWE Universal Champion: Brock Lesnar
WWE Intercontinental champion: Miz
Raw Woman's Champion: Alexa Bliss
Raw Tag Team Champions: The Bar
WWE Cruiserweight Champion: Brian Kendrick

WWE Champion: Randy Orton
WWE United States Champion: AJ Styles
Smackdown Woman's Champion: Natyala
Smackdown Tag Team Champions: Shelton and Gabel