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Post by c on Apr 25, 2024 20:14:27 GMT
People trashing AEW for reaching out to armed forces groups to offer vets the empty seats at the Jacksonville shows. Some local reporter twisted this into AEW needing to pay people to attend shows, and seems everyone from here just reported on it as such. AEW always has given away seats to Vets and other groups, was a Cody thing. And I imagine a tax write off.
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Tony wearing a neck brace today.
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Post by KJ on Apr 26, 2024 3:10:42 GMT
A brutally shitty rating last night.
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Post by c on Apr 26, 2024 3:18:17 GMT
Wonder if something could explain that, like perhaps it airing at 5pm on the West Coast this week because of NBA live coverage and not having it's normal staggered release. Almost like the west coast watches the show or something.
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Tons of media coverage today from places covering the angle as part of the NFL draft since Tony wore the neck brace all day.
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Post by KJ on Apr 26, 2024 4:44:15 GMT
Wonder if something could explain that, like perhaps it airing at 5pm on the West Coast this week because of NBA live coverage and not having it's normal staggered release. Almost like the west coast watches the show or something. /// Tons of media coverage today from places covering the angle as part of the NFL draft since Tony wore the neck brace all day. There’s always a reason and it’s never fan interest.
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Post by c on Apr 26, 2024 4:57:44 GMT
Meltzer so called this. Some people will look for any reason to attack AEW, whether or not it even makes sense to do so.
But Tony should clearly wrap things up. If people will not leave work early to watch AEW when they air three hours early on the west coast clearly the fed will not survive.
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Post by Todd on Apr 26, 2024 7:35:13 GMT
Raw is on at that time on the west coast every single week and no one makes mention of it. Dave certainly didn’t mention it years ago when Dynamite beat Raw in the demo that one time. That’s the issue people have with Dave. He’s partisan, he takes it as a personal affront when AEW’s success is questioned. He’s got to cut that shit out.
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Post by N A T H on Apr 26, 2024 8:43:07 GMT
Wait! What! We can talk ratings again? 683,000..... Dynamite’s lowest viewership number on a Wednesday since Jan. 6 2021
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Post by c on Apr 26, 2024 8:45:46 GMT
Raw is on at that time on the west coast every single week and no one makes mention of it. Dave certainly didn’t mention it years ago when Dynamite beat Raw in the demo that one time. That’s the issue people have with Dave. He’s partisan, he takes it as a personal affront when AEW’s success is questioned. He’s got to cut that shit out. WWE is not live on the west coast. Same with AEW on normal weeks. East coast and central get it live, west coast gets a replay. Been this way since the attitude era for wrestling. Which is why Dave said people would be presenting this rating to trash AEW while ignoring the context.
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Post by Todd on Apr 26, 2024 9:00:16 GMT
There’s conflicting information on this but I’ll take your word for it, you are an American.
Dave estimated it made an 8% difference. He made no attempt to define this calculation so it’s probably nonsense, but even if he’s right, it would still have been a disappointing number off the back of a PPV.
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Post by c on Apr 26, 2024 9:33:19 GMT
Dave's estimates are likely coming out of his ass. He is a not a numbers guy. Cutting the west coast could cause a variance anywhere from 0 to 20% or so. It may have really hurt, it may have done nothing. I am too lazy calc out a confidence interval for this though. Fact remains it is hard to draw any inference from an anomalous week.
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Post by c on Apr 26, 2024 11:49:26 GMT
For those missed it, Toni hilariously unhinged attack on wrestling dirt sheets from the media scrum.
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Post by RT on Apr 26, 2024 15:00:50 GMT
2 things about Dynamite having a low rating:
1) I think the west coast being cut had something to do with it because that is crazy low for a post-PPV show.
2) I think they booked a terrible show and fans felt the episode was skippable. I didn't even watch it and I'm not even sure I would have if the Leafs weren't playing a playoff game.
That card on paper as a follow up to a PPV that was widely regarded as one of AEW's best is a travesty. What was probably the best match of the night WASN'T EVEN ADVERTISED. The fuck were they thinking?
You have a match where Will Ospreay is going to do Will Ospreay things with a bunch of the roster (including a stand-off with Jay White, their first since NJPW), and you don't even slap it on the poster? No we need to advertise that Chris Jericho is going to bore the audience and Chuck Taylor is going to finally swear on TV, an inside joke so deep that most internet fans even forgot it was a thing. What are you doing?
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Post by JTJ on Apr 26, 2024 16:54:45 GMT
Raw is on at that time on the west coast every single week and no one makes mention of it. Dave certainly didn’t mention it years ago when Dynamite beat Raw in the demo that one time. That’s the issue people have with Dave. He’s partisan, he takes it as a personal affront when AEW’s success is questioned. He’s got to cut that shit out. WWE is not live on the west coast. Same with AEW on normal weeks. East coast and central get it live, west coast gets a replay. Been this way since the attitude era for wrestling. Which is why Dave said people would be presenting this rating to trash AEW while ignoring the context. Raw airs all over the place on the west coast and it’s determined by a few things: cable/satellite provider and city/state. It airs anywhere from 5pm to 10pm their time. There are providers in Los Angeles that don’t show Raw until 10pm west coast time. Oddly enough, you tune in at 8pm and you get reruns of 9-1-1. The funny part is, it’s still aired as “live” even though it’s 2-5 hours late. Mountain time is just as weird. Sling and YoutubeTV make it so that you can tune in right away (5pm) or watch it later on DVR. At least this was the case a few years ago (but from people I know who live there.. it seems like it’s still a thing).
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Post by N A T H on Apr 26, 2024 21:23:23 GMT
The best thing about Jericho doing all this cringe worthy horseshit in AEW, is no one will know about it when he eventually returns for his WWE HOF Induction.
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Post by c on Apr 27, 2024 9:07:53 GMT
Reports are the knee injury on Hobbs is legit. No word of how long he will be out yet.
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Post by c on Apr 28, 2024 0:45:07 GMT
Reported MJF just had surgery for his shoulder, something he spent months trying to avoid. Usually these are 9 month recoveries. Likely not gonna see him until 2025. Which means the earliest he can appear in WWE for everyone believing he is jumping is at least 2026 since Tony can tack the year off to his contract.
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Post by c on Apr 28, 2024 5:11:12 GMT
Worth posting here so people can see where the racist floodgates got opened.
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Post by c on Apr 28, 2024 5:43:33 GMT
Darby was hit by a bus yesterday in NYC. No word on how this plays into his other injuries but looks like his nose and possible other things were broken in the process. http://instagram.com/p/C6SnFF6OAnu
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Post by RT on Apr 28, 2024 5:45:43 GMT
Darby Allin got hit by a bus.
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Post by RT on Apr 28, 2024 5:46:35 GMT
Worth posting here so people can see where the racist floodgates got opened. No but AEW fans are the bad ones.
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Post by N A T H on Apr 28, 2024 6:37:04 GMT
Ok, the " Mighty Joe Young " line isn't a great comment to make, other than that, Cornette is right.
The man's been World Champion for 7 days, and they've already fed him Kyle & Claudio. Both mid-card, go-nowhere matches. I get the criticism, but I also get they want to showcase their Champ, but showcase him as THE CHAMP, not the holder of another random mid-card belt no-one cares for. Speaking of which, why are Jay White and Billy Goat having to duke it out for some mid-card contendership.
Two birds. One stone. Will & Jay challenge Swerve instead.
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Post by RT on Apr 28, 2024 6:44:23 GMT
Ok, the " Mighty Joe Young " line isn't a great comment to make, other than that, Cornette is right. The man's been World Champion for 7 days, and they've already fed him Kyle & Claudio. Both mid-card, go-nowhere matches. I get the criticism, but I also get they want to showcase their Champ, but showcase him as THE CHAMP, not the holder of another random mid-card belt no-one cares for. Speaking of which, why are Jay White and Billy Goat having to duke it out for some mid-card contendership. Two birds. One stone. Will & Jay challenge Swerve instead. I want to agree with you partially but unfortunately Todd and the others have spoken, and if someone says something controversial we have to disagree with them and denounce them. Otherwise we are forever minions in a cult, and that is not allowed. Even if what they say is kind of funny and truthful in a way, there is no room for nuance here. No difference of opinion. We just have to accept that if there is any hint of controversy, it is wrong. I’m sorry, I don’t make the rules.
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Post by N A T H on Apr 28, 2024 6:48:45 GMT
Thumbs up. ( unless that is offensive )
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Post by N A T H on Apr 28, 2024 6:51:50 GMT
Oh, and regarding Darby being hit by a bus. Understandably, the bus driver likely thought he was homeless and it was kinda, sorta, but not really, but sorta OK.
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Post by RT on Apr 28, 2024 6:58:30 GMT
Oh, and regarding Darby being hit by a bus. Understandably, the bus driver likely thought he was homeless and it was kinda, sorta, but not really, but sorta OK. I love Darby but getting hit by a bus is so on brand for him I can’t help but laugh. He is probably mad it wasn’t caught on video.
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Post by N A T H on Apr 28, 2024 7:15:56 GMT
Why is it that straight edge guys always look like shit?
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Post by Emperor on Apr 28, 2024 13:30:34 GMT
The man's been World Champion for 7 days, and they've already fed him Kyle & Claudio. Both mid-card, go-nowhere matches. I get the criticism, but I also get they want to showcase their Champ, but showcase him as THE CHAMP, not the holder of another random mid-card belt no-one cares for. To piggyback on this point, it's interesting to compare the booking of two similar matches. Swerve Strickland vs Claudio Castagnoli and Cody Rhodes vs Carmelo Hayes. Both were impromptu matches set up in an open challenge format - Swerve explicitly offering an open challenge, Cody being challenged by a draft pick. I was excited to watch Cody vs Carmelo, and did just that, while I skipped Swerve vs Claudio. Bell to bell we expect Swerve vs Claudio to be the better match, it's interesting to consider why that match did not interest me. Personally I am not interested in watching good matches for the sake of good matches (there are exceptions of course). That's exactly what Swerve vs Claudio was. Meanwhile Cody vs Carmelo had a story behind it. Cody was hanging around for the draft. Carmelo walks on stage, sees the champion, picks his spot with a good promo. The fresh "rookie" against the top dog. It's not Lord of the Rings, but it's a good enough story for a one-show deal. It's a hook. The hook that I, and I'm sure many other viewers, latched on to. We all know Carmelo isn't beating Cody, the intrigue comes from how far he can push the champion. Yes, Claudio did come out and confront Swerve, but the story didn't go beyond "Claudio accepts open challenge". Where's the hook? We all know Swerve is going to win, and we know it will be a competitive match because Claudio is an established upper midcarder. I have no reason to care. Food for thought.
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Post by c on Apr 29, 2024 12:29:43 GMT
Being reported that a bunch of CMLL guys got US visas. Could see a bunch of people appear in the near future in AEW as we start to lead up to Forbidden Door. Almost certain will get Dragon vs Blue Panther on the show.
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Post by N A T H on Apr 29, 2024 20:50:08 GMT
" Sports streaming service DAZN has ended its contract with AEW after just one year due to what they considered underperforming numbers "
Outside of ALL IN and the early run of Collision episodes, AEW reportedly underperformed. It was also noted, in comparison to Boxing and MMA, wrestling was receiving 5% of the budget, which limited the exposure and growth potential of the wrestling content. It was initially a multi year deal.
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Post by c on Apr 29, 2024 21:22:08 GMT
Given this was the first that many people heard of DAZN I doubt much business is being lost. Also appears this was them costing costs as they are now a billion pounds in a the hole annually.
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