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Post by CM Punk'd on Apr 28, 2019 2:25:22 GMT
Great statement win by the Raptors tonight. No Game 1 jitters for them.
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Post by UT on Apr 28, 2019 17:48:06 GMT
Bucks coming out flat and Boston can’t fucking miss. Ugh.
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Post by UT on Apr 28, 2019 17:59:28 GMT
And just like that Bucks tie it up on a 15-0 run.
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Post by UT on Apr 28, 2019 18:00:35 GMT
Mother fuckin Mirotic. Lol
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Post by UT on Apr 28, 2019 19:08:23 GMT
So Milwaukee forgot to play defense today. Or offense for 75% of the game.
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Post by thereallt on Apr 28, 2019 19:50:11 GMT
Until Giannis can find a jumpshot Kawhi remains the best player in the East. You keep Giannis out the paint and dare him to shoot from the perimeter and his effectiveness goes down a good 50%.
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Post by UT on Apr 28, 2019 20:13:02 GMT
Ohhh such a scorching hot take. Call me when Kawhi doesn’t miss 1/4 of a season.
Also Giannis sank the threes he was given today. The lack of defense and subsequential lack of transition offense is what killed the Bucks.
Giannis/Middleton were 6/9 from three. The rest of the team were like 7/30. Oh and Giannis’s only miss was a half court buzzer beater.
Giannis wasn’t the problem today , yes he had a rough time inside but they were tripling him and his teammates aside from Mirotic and Middleton bricked fucking everything.
I don’t see Kawhi getting triple teamed , sometimes at half court.
Did you even watch the game?
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Post by KING KID on Apr 28, 2019 20:56:29 GMT
You know, the Kawhi/Giannis debate will be forever if Kawhi stays in the EAST. There’s really no question that the better all around player is Kawhi, though. If I had to pick who to build my team around, I would pick Kawhi. It took Giannis 4 years to perfect his craft and that’s not a bad thing. But Kawhi is just perfect from the jump.
Boston came out ready today and that’s what I was afraid would happen with this series. Boston has been so close before. Milwaukee has finally gotten out of the first round. Boston knows the taste and that’s what’s going to get them past Milwaukee. These two eastern battles are great, but the epic battle to come is the inevitable ECF showdown of Lebrons bitches; Boston vs Toronto.
The Rockets/Warriors game is tied at halftime. It’s feeling like a change is coming to the NBA and Houston can possibly win this series. I don’t see Denver or Portland making it to the Finals so this series is the WCF pretty much.
My counterdefense for LT is; call me when Giannis wins a championship AND Finals MVP.
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Post by UT on Apr 28, 2019 21:08:25 GMT
You're just making shit up at this point.
Kawhi was better from the start? That's false. Aside from their rookie years (where Kawhi was less than 2 points higher) Giannis has averaged more every season in the league compared to Kawhis.
As for the all around game. More false. The only thing Kawhi has on Giannis is 3 point shooting. That's it.
Giannis has averaged more points , blocks , rebounds , assists , has a higher FG% throughout their careers.
Also Giannis has played the same amount of games in 6 seasons than Kawhi has in 8. And even if you want to do Kawhi a favor and throw out the season where he played 9 games - Giannis has played MORE games in six than Kawhi did in his 7 healthiest seasons. Availability matters.
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Post by thereallt on Apr 28, 2019 21:11:10 GMT
Call me when Giannis can even make the conference finals.
Kawhi is better from the midrange as well. Offensively Giannis is only better in the paint.
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Post by UT on Apr 28, 2019 21:11:25 GMT
And again call me when Kawhi is getting fucking tripled from the top of the key , when he is that much of a mismatch that teams are literally daring him to pass it to his open teammates when they aren't making anything.
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Post by UT on Apr 28, 2019 21:14:45 GMT
Call me when Giannis can even make the conference finals. Call me when Giannis gets drafted to the best franchise in the NBA over the last 20 years with probably the best PF of all time , best coach of all time and two other Hall of Famers ready and waiting. Fucking please. Giannis was drafted to a team that has been largely shit since 2001 and brought them from a 15 win team to the best record in the entire NBA by the age of 24.
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Post by UT on Apr 28, 2019 21:16:12 GMT
Call me when Giannis can even make the conference finals. Kawhi is better from the midrange as well. Offensively Giannis is only better in the paint. And passing , and drawing double and triple teams.
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Post by thereallt on Apr 28, 2019 21:16:14 GMT
Giannis isn't even going to get past Boston. Dollars to Donuts Kawhi is in the Finals this year.
Kawhi is easily the better ball-hander. The only move Giannis has is the Eurostep.
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Post by KING KID on Apr 28, 2019 21:44:02 GMT
I don’t know why UT is getting so offended. Giannis is obviously the 2nd best in the East. But Kawhi is a better basketball player. You’re also contradicting yourself with the stats you’re posting. Giannis is able to get those stats from playing on a lesser squad. Kawhi has been fortunate enough to play on good teams and still put up great numbers. I have no doubt that Kawhi could do to the Bucks the same thing Giannis did. Giannis could do the same to the Raptors and so on. Like I said, Boston and Toronto will play for a spot in the Finals. Milwaukee will not.
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Post by UT on Apr 28, 2019 22:09:43 GMT
I'm not offended but coming in with irrelevant takes that had nothing to do with the game is pointless. The Bucks got their asses handed to them and somehow that equates to Giannis not being as good as Kawhi because he can't shoot threes? What in the blue hell did that have to do with the game? Cool take because Kawhi had a monster game and Giannis struggled to get into the paint and his teammates couldn't take advantage? Coming from someone who I seriously doubt at this point watched the game.
And no , the wouldn't do the same on different teams nor would the teams do the same. Milwaukee needs Giannis and his dominance down low to open things up for their shooters on the outside. His drawing double of triple teams is what this offense is largely built on and as I've said now ten times - Kawhi isn't drawing that kind of defense to him anywhere on the court. Certainly not playing on better teams around him like in SA. He was the guy actually benefitting from other guys drawing double teams early in his career.
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Post by Da Gr8t I Is on Apr 28, 2019 22:30:20 GMT
I'm not offended but coming in with irrelevant takes that had nothing to do with the game is pointless. The Bucks got their asses handed to them and somehow that equates to Giannis not being as good as Kawhi because he can't shoot threes? What in the blue hell did that have to do with the game? Cool take because Kawhi had a monster game and Giannis struggled to get into the paint and his teammates couldn't take advantage? Coming from someone who I seriously doubt at this point watched the game. And no , the wouldn't do the same on different teams nor would the teams do the same. Milwaukee needs Giannis and his dominance down low to open things up for their shooters on the outside. His drawing double of triple teams is what this offense is largely built on and as I've said now ten times - Kawhi isn't drawing that kind of defense to him anywhere on the court. Certainly not playing on better teams around him like in SA. He was the guy actually benefitting from other guys drawing double teams early in his career. Well UT does have a point.
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Post by KING KID on Apr 28, 2019 23:21:24 GMT
They should be guarding Kawhi like that because dude is dominating games. It’s bad coaching then. Makes sense because it’s the same story when he coached the Hawks. #1 seeds that can’t win it all.
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Post by Ed on May 1, 2019 1:05:45 GMT
People need to evaluate The Greek Freak from this year forward. Jason Kidd sucks balls as a coach.
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Post by UT on May 1, 2019 3:00:09 GMT
Needed that!
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Post by thereallt on May 1, 2019 7:47:03 GMT
People need to evaluate The Greek Freak from this year forward. Jason Kidd sucks balls as a coach. The weaknesses in Giannis's game have little to do with coaching. It's all about his jumpshot, which while it has improved, is still rather inconsistent. Teams are still comfortable giving up the open J to Giannis. It also limits his options when defenders collapse on him in the lane, as he HAS to kick the ball out, as his pull up J is still wanting. When his shooters are hitting, it's lovely...when they don't....well you get game 1. What Budenholzer did was implement a system that took best advantage of Giannis strengths, which is unquestionable dominance driving to the lane coupled with a gift for facilitation. When he starts hitting his jumpers consistently the league is going to be in some serious trouble.
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Post by KING KID on May 1, 2019 11:14:16 GMT
The Warriors going up 2-0 after last night is kind of deflating. Everyone knows that the only team that can really knock them out is the Houston Rockets. Sure, the Warriors handled their business and won both games at home but it’s hard to envision the Warriors losing 2 in a row, even if it’s in Houston.
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Post by thereallt on May 2, 2019 1:43:31 GMT
The sad fact about James Harden is that his game relies WAY too much on the officials. This is why he'll never lead a team to the championship.
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Post by KING KID on May 3, 2019 2:31:57 GMT
Man, Kyle Lowry is stinking up the joint again. The Raptors are getting dominated and are about to be down 2-1. Kawhi is the only one producing and if they get knocked out this round then there’s no way Kawhi stays in Toronto. The chances of him staying are slim, in my opinion but a second round elimination would guarantee it.
This is why the Raptors never got over the hump. Inconsistency from guys like Lowry and Derozan. The Sixers are hitting from all cylinders today and have home court advantage so I’m not writing Toronto out yet. However, they definitely need to show us something in Game 4. This is a huge series for the Raptors organization.
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Post by RT on May 3, 2019 5:47:24 GMT
Lowry doing Lowry things. He's a great player but doesn't have that killer instinct that would make him better than great.
Kawhi is leaving no matter what, even if the Raptors win it all. He doesn't want to play here, but isn't the type of guy to phone it in either. Anyone that thinks he might stay is just kidding themselves. He's going to get so fucking paid next year.
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Post by UT on May 5, 2019 13:39:44 GMT
Man I wish Houston would have lost last night and lose sooner rather than later in this series.
I just hate watching them. They are fucking brutal. Last night down the stretch in the 4th watching Harden just go isolation , dribbling for 22 seconds and then attacking or shooting - like fucking ugly.
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Post by thereallt on May 5, 2019 14:53:40 GMT
Man I wish Houston would have lost last night and lose sooner rather than later in this series. I just hate watching them. They are fucking brutal. Last night down the stretch in the 4th watching Harden just go isolation , dribbling for 22 seconds and then attacking or shooting - like fucking ugly. I couldn't agree more. Houston is easily my least favorite of the playoff teams. Their style of play is just so ugly.. Iso ball...Iso ball, step back 3, more iso ball, rinse and repeat. Very little ball movement and way too many guys standing around. The Bucks play a lot of iso ball too, but they move the ball around and they move well without the ball. Houston doesn't do either of these things well.
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Post by UT on May 5, 2019 18:27:50 GMT
Man I wish Houston would have lost last night and lose sooner rather than later in this series. I just hate watching them. They are fucking brutal. Last night down the stretch in the 4th watching Harden just go isolation , dribbling for 22 seconds and then attacking or shooting - like fucking ugly. I couldn't agree more. Houston is easily my least favorite of the playoff teams. Their style of play is just so ugly.. Iso ball...Iso ball, step back 3, more iso ball, rinse and repeat. Very little ball movement and way too many guys standing around. The Bucks play a lot of iso ball too, but they move the ball around and they move well without the bell. Houston doesn't do either of these things well. Yeah and people try and say it works , but it's not nearly as effective in the playoffs against good teams. The only reason they won last night is because Tucker was a beast on the boards - the iso ball bullshit was getting stymied. And Paul even passed up a wide open three , probably because it was too early in the shot clock. The Bucks play some iso , but it's often early in the shot clock so at least they have options when they drive - Harden (or Paul) doesn't start driving half the time until theres like 5 seconds left so all they have is step back three or off balance three. Giannis iso's , kicks out , the ball moves - it's not nearly the same.
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Post by Da Gr8t I Is on May 5, 2019 19:47:36 GMT
Man I wish Houston would have lost last night and lose sooner rather than later in this series. I just hate watching them. They are fucking brutal. Last night down the stretch in the 4th watching Harden just go isolation , dribbling for 22 seconds and then attacking or shooting - like fucking ugly. My brutha, Houston is not winning the series. Let them enjoy this small victory.....for now. On a side note Curry was building a house last night with all those bricks he was throwing up.
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Post by CM Punk'd on May 5, 2019 22:32:16 GMT
Whole new series now. Best of three going back to Toronto!
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