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Post by UT on Feb 7, 2019 15:49:15 GMT
Senior Bowl ended last week , combine isn't too far away and with the Super Bowl over it's officially draft season. I'm super interested in this years draft , for what it lacks in really great QB prospects it makes up for in splash players on the edge really the front seven in general - all positions of Packers needs. I'm really hoping to see a bunch of teams reach for the weaker positions in this draft (QB) and one of the blue chippers to fall in Green Bays lap. I don't see a way we really don't take an edge rusher at #12.
I'll probably look at doing a dumb mock soon enough , for discussion purposes if nothing else.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 16:27:12 GMT
Texans obviously need o line and defensive backfield help but I seen somebody on NFL website project us drafting a TE, I watched his highlight video and he looks really good:
Wouldn't mind drafting this feller at all.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 16:31:37 GMT
Noah Fant was really good in college and will be productive in the NFL but he may not even be the best tight end on his own team. His teammate TJ Hockenson won the John Mackey award for best tight end in college football last year and has been projected as a potential first round pick. Iowa has had crazy talent from the TE position recently with George Kittle being another recent alum.
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Post by RT on Feb 7, 2019 17:21:49 GMT
Buffalo needs an O-Line that will protect Josh Allen. He needs to work on his awareness and timing and he can’t do that if the pocket keeps collapsing and he’s forced to run. Thank god he’s a decent runner or else Buffalo wouldn’t have won a single game last year.
Their secondary still needs work too. Once again it’s the biggest hole in our defence. Tre’Davious White can’t do it all himself.
They need another receiver too but I’m unsure they should pick one later in the draft and hope it works out or just go hard on free agency/trades. I don’t know who is available that Buffalo could afford. Zay Jones is their only decent receiver at the moment and him and Allen didn’t have very good chemistry last year. Hopefully that isn’t still the case.
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Post by @admin on Feb 8, 2019 0:02:08 GMT
I want a quarterback. We haven't won the division since 2011, have five sub .500 seasons out of the last six - Eli's a legend but we're well past the point of hanging on to the Super Bowl runs, he's been a bottom tier quarterback for too long now. I don't hate that we passed up Darnold to get Barkley because he is clearly a generational talent, but they can't keep waiting around for the "perfect" prospect year after year while the franchise flounders - especially when you are only going to have so many years of Saquon and Odell's prime. I'm sick of our season being irrelevant by Week 5, give me something to believe in again!
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Post by UT on Feb 12, 2019 17:44:55 GMT
Prospects I want to Packers to look at/take
At #12 - Edge - Josh Allen , Kentucky - We are more than likely going to have to trade up to get him , so saying #12 is probably not right. I just love this kid though and think he can become the next great pass rusher right away and the Packers need one. Plus stuff happens on draft day and guys fall. Him falling to the 6-8 range and the Packers trading up would be killer.
At #12 - DeAndre Baker , CB , Georgia - I love Alexander and think King can be really good but he's never been able to stay healthy yet. Baker could be a stud and best corner in the draft.
At #12 - Clelin Ferrell , Edge , Clemson - Another need pick , my second pick behind Allen as far as realistic Edge Rushers go.
At #12 - Greg Little , OT , Ole Miss - I would prefer a trade back if we take him but the Packers need someone to come in and play RT for the foreseeable future.
At #30 - Nassir Adderly , S , Delaware - I think he could rise come draft day , could be a day two pick but I would take him at the end of day one as I think he can be awesome. And the Packers need a new safety.
At #30 - DK Metcalf , WR , Ole Miss - The Packers don't really need a WR IMO but Metcalf is a physical freak that I am really interested in seeing project to the next level.
Or any number of edge rushers that might be there.
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TJ Hockenson , TE , Iowa Beau Benzschawel , OG , Wisconsin Nate Herbig , OT , Stanford
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Post by @admin on Feb 12, 2019 23:15:19 GMT
At #30 - DK Metcalf , WR , Ole Miss - The Packers don't really need a WR IMO but Metcalf is a physical freak that I am really interested in seeing project to the next level. This guy is going to be shinobimusashi's favourite player in the draft.
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Post by UT on Mar 2, 2019 20:09:03 GMT
DK Metcalf just ran an unofficial 4.33 - good lord. Dudes going in the Top 10.
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Post by KING KID on Mar 3, 2019 4:26:59 GMT
I hope the Jets draft him. They need a playmaker and with Darnold at QB, they could have an epic run.
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Post by CM Punk'd on Mar 3, 2019 6:22:15 GMT
I hope the Jets draft him. They need a playmaker and with Darnold at QB, they could have an epic run. Need a good lineman or two before thinking about that.
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Post by CM Punk'd on Mar 3, 2019 16:44:05 GMT
Montez Sweet just ran a 4.4 at the Combine. That's the fastest time for a lineman ever.
I think his stock just rose.
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Post by UT on Mar 3, 2019 16:55:38 GMT
He ain't no linemen , he's an edge rusher in the same vein as a Von Miller and belongs in a 3-4. Still though you're right that his stock is going to soar probably into the top ten as well , which isn't even as far of a jump as Metcalf IMO. At 245 that is incredibly impressive though.
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Post by UT on Mar 3, 2019 17:14:05 GMT
Williams running a 4.8 is equally impressive. Dude could be the first overall pick if the Cardinals don't go edge rusher or quarterback. Or trade out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2019 17:31:51 GMT
It's been a year of insane 40 times. Some of the linemen are running stupid times.
DE Montez Sweat ran 4.41. I mean fucking come off it.
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Post by KING KID on Mar 3, 2019 17:57:35 GMT
Montez Sweet just ran a 4.4 at the Combine. That's the fastest time for a lineman ever. I think his stock just rose. I don’t think so. I think you need to build your team. They’re not winning shit with Robbie Anderson as a WR1. Get your core players first and then build around them. Felt the same about the Giants taking Barkley last year. No need to pick a QB when you have that kind of talent on the board. It’s how the Steelers stay good for so long. Great players always fall to them because everyone is trying to build in the trenches. It doesn’t work most of the time.
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Post by KJ on Mar 3, 2019 20:42:53 GMT
Drew Lock is the only prospect I’m invested in, and by all accounts he seemed to have locked in his place as a Top-10 pick at the combine.
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Post by Blindy on Mar 3, 2019 21:26:32 GMT
I hope the Jets draft him. They need a playmaker and with Darnold at QB, they could have an epic run. Not at three hell fucking no. You want yo convince me after trading down to get him ok but no way at 3. The Jets were so wowed by Stephen Hills speed at the combine years ago and what did that do for them? Went over a then out of shape Alshon Jeffrey and EVERYONE Knew how bad that was. Jets fell in love with Vernon GHOLSTONS And Quinton Coples Chiseled bodies and took em over Donta Hightower and Chandler Jones, you tell me if those were good picks? The Bengals are seeing who wants Mr 4.2 JOHN Ross after he cannot stay healthy on the field. That's Metcalfs problem neck injuries at Ole Miss. David Boston had an amazing body and was a workout Warrior and that amounted to jack shit on the field. Jets better take a great OT at pick three or trade down and take BPA where if they are say dropping to six might be Josh Allen who would be a big help pass rushing. Jarvis Landry and Antonio Brown got passed up on because of their poor timed speed. It means nothing...... Nothing. If you take WR at 3, they better be Calvin Johnson or Aj green levels of athletism and ball hawking.
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Post by KING KID on Mar 3, 2019 21:33:05 GMT
We’ll see.
The Jets are in desperate need for playmakers and unless they get AB or Bell, they’re going to remain where they are in the standings.
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Post by Blindy on Mar 3, 2019 21:34:09 GMT
We’ll see. The Jets are in desperate need for playmakers and unless they get AB or Bell, they’re going to remain where they are in the standings. They got money to spend I go after that in FA. Great oline man don't hit free agency and when they do they get paid like Solder did. Give me a franchise LT at 3.
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Post by UT on Mar 3, 2019 21:55:11 GMT
Not really many franchise LTs in this draft , it’s considered one of the weakest offensive line drafts in years. The Jets should just draft the best players available - they aren’t a piece or two away.
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Post by KING KID on Mar 3, 2019 22:16:06 GMT
That’s what I’m saying.
Grab the best player and build around your best players.
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Post by UT on Mar 3, 2019 22:52:27 GMT
That’s probably going to be Allen or Williams. I don’t see Metcalf going THAT high and Bosa , Allen and Williams are considered the blue chippers of this draft. Trading back with a quarterback needy team to the 8-10 range might best suit the Jets.
I want Allen , I’d be totally okay if the Packers traded up from 12 to get him.
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Post by @admin on Mar 3, 2019 23:04:39 GMT
Only time will tell but I think anyone drafting Metcalf in the top 15 is setting themselves up for big bust potential. Obviously he's fast and has a great rig, but he's got questionable hands, isn't a particularly good route runner and wasn't even the best receiver at Ole Miss. He's got a big Al Davis mancrush overdraft vibe to me.
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Post by UT on Mar 3, 2019 23:16:32 GMT
Only time will tell but I think anyone drafting Metcalf in the top 15 is setting themselves up for big bust potential. Obviously he's fast and has a great rig, but he's got questionable hands, isn't a particularly good route runner and wasn't even the best receiver at Ole Miss. He's got a big Al Davis mancrush overdraft vibe to me. Oh he’s boom or bust but his potential is Calvin Johnson , who also wasn’t the smoothest route runner coming out. If he can get with the right quarterback/system I think he can be incredible. Obviously there’s also a chance he never reaches his potential and he’s already peaked physically but I think he’s worth a shot. Not sure I’d take him in the top ten , but with his workout and buzz that’s where I gave to believe he’s going to end up.
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Post by KJ on Mar 4, 2019 15:38:07 GMT
So is the Cardinals/Murray talk a smokescreen or is there fire?
I tend to believe it's legit, and word is the Redskins have openly inquired about Rosen.
I think Murray has all the makings of an absolute bust in the NFL, but I have a general rule: Don't trust a QB with toothpick legs.
As much as I'm a Drew Lock guy, I know he's pure boom-or-bust. I'm really intrigued by next year's draft with Tua and Herbert, though.
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Post by UT on Mar 4, 2019 15:55:24 GMT
I don't know for sure , I've heard from draftniks on every corner that the Big Four quarterbacks from last year (Mayfield , Darnold , Allen and Rosen) were all rated and would be rated higher than either two of the QB's in this draft. If I were the Redskins I would seriously consider that trade given the Smith injury and let the Cardinals take Murray. I don't hate Murray as a prospect at all but I do think he needs to go to the right team in order to succeed - can't see him going to Jacksonville or something and lighting up the NFL. Kingsbury might be the ticket though.
It would be a nice get by the Cardinals if they really do love Murray , and get the 14th overall pick on top of the quarterback they really want to sure up other areas of the team. I could see them having to send a 2nd or 3rd back in return though.
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Post by Blindy on Mar 4, 2019 18:57:55 GMT
Not really many franchise LTs in this draft , it’s considered one of the weakest offensive line drafts in years. The Jets should just draft the best players available - they aren’t a piece or two away. Taylor out of Florida had a nice combine, think he's solidified as a top 10 lock regardless of position. I also want jets to trade down and get more picks, he'd be someone I would be all over.
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Post by KING KID on Mar 5, 2019 1:00:39 GMT
Some rumors I just read for the Jets gross me out.
Doesn’t gross me out: The Jets want to trade out of the 3rd pick to try and get a first and a second since they don’t have a second. Experts also say that the talent in Round 2 through Round 5 are pretty damn good. Could be a very good draft class with busts happening in the first round.
Grosses me out: If the Jets strike out on Le’Veon Bell, they are probably going for Tevin Coleman as both RBs share an agent and same thing happened with the Cousins/McCown situation. I definitely do NOT want the Jets relying on Coleman as their starting RB. We see how he was when he took over for Freeman last season and the answer is not good.
I do expect the Jets to trade out of the 3rd pick and getting a 2nd rounder and a first for it. Question is, who’s willing to make that much of a jump to 3? Nobody in the top 12-15 IMO are willing to give up that much.
I also expect Bell to sign with either the Raiders or Texans this off-season so I fully expect Coleman to be the RB for the Jets which means dump off galore.
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Post by @admin on Mar 5, 2019 5:33:00 GMT
A "bad class" doesn't mean a team shouldn't draft that position if it's a need. They said the same thing last year about the tackles and Mike McGlinchey turned out to be a really good pick by the 49ers, if criticised at the time. Of course Kolton Miller didn't work out quite as well for Oakland (yet, anyway) - but the hit/miss ratio on first round WRs in recent times is far less.
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Post by UT on Mar 5, 2019 17:32:41 GMT
A team should rarely draft a position just because it's a need , especially if there isn't much difference in the 1st round prospects and some of the 2nd round guys. You shouldn't pass up on potentially generational talents like Bosa , Williams or Allen because you also need a tackle.
Perhaps if the Jets were close I could begin to see the argument , but it's not like they are a LT away. Really they could draft any position besides quarterback and maybe safety and it would make complete sense as that roster is in shambles.
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