Low Ki all the way.

Low Ki

Low Ki

Low Ki

Low Ki took no time at all picking up the victory over Christian, Participants will want to avoid him in future rounds in the tournament on that sort of form. 

1st Round Results:

Match 1: Psichosis beat Scotty 2 Hotty
Match 2: Elix Skipper beat Shannon Moore
Match 3: Kid Kash beat Hornswoggle
Match 4: Alex Wright beat Mustafa Ali
Match 5: Justin Gabriel beat Lanny Lane
Match 6: Taka Michinoku beat Super Crazy
Match 7: Essa Rios beat Rich Swann
Match 8: Lince Dorado beat Tigre Uno
Match 9: Trevor Lee beat Shark Boy
Match 10: Tyson Kidd beat Enzo Amore
Match 11: Funaki beat Crash Holly
Match 12: Ricochet beat X Pac
Match 13: The Brian Kendrick & Hiromu Takahashi beat Petey Williams & Prince Iaukea
Match 14: TJP beat Sin Cara
Match 15: Alex Shelley beat Roderick Strong
Match 16: Mike Quackenbush beat Grand Master Sexay
Match 17: Austin Aries beat Tony Nese
Match 18: Spike Dudley beat Shawn Daivari
Match 19: Jimmy Yang & Kalisto beat Brad Armstrong & Eric Young
Match 20: Jay Lethal beat Cederic Alexander
Match 21: Matt Hardy beat Lio Rush
Match 22: Amazing Red & Nunzio beat Will Osperay & Noam Dar
Match 23: The Hurricane beat Kaz Hayashi
Match 24: Marty Scurll & DJZ beat Robbie E & Ariya Davari
Match 25: Johnny Gargano beat Tajiri 
Match 26: Low Ki beat Christian

www.mathgoodies.com is starting up to determine the 27th match of Round 1, The organisers of the tournament have just announced it will be a 6 man challenge meaning you guys pick THREE to advance to round 2, Let's see who's the competitors then... 

Brian Pilllman 

V's 

Sonjay Dutt 

V's 

Xavier Woods 

V's 

Arande Almas 

V's 

Da Mack

V's 

Jack Gallagher

Quite a difficult 1 here! Remember guys choose 3 to qualify for round 2, 

As always your participation is greatly appreciated & I wish y'all a great start to the week! 

Woods, Almas, and Gallagher.

Gallagher, Dutt, Almas

Pillman, Gallagher & Dutt

Pillman, Dutt, Woods

My vote goes to Flyin Brian which means Jack Gallagher, Pilllman & Sonjay Dutt are through to the second round. 

Next up is... 

Jushin Liger

V's 

El Dandy 

Liger

Liger

El Dandy

I haven't seen enough of Dandy to really fairly judge and there are people that put his peak up there with almost anyone's (and people often think that's just a piss-take due to that classic Bret promo, when it isn't), but Liger is the man and should win this tournament.

Who are all of you to doubt El Dandy!?

Jushin 'Thunder' Liger.

Almas didn't get through? Disgraceful. I blame Pillman.

Oct 30, 2017 23:14:40 GMT Emperor said:

Almas didn't get through? Disgraceful. I blame Pillman.

Why would you put Almas ahead? Because lots of Pillman's best stuff wasn't as a cruiser against other cruisers? He was mixing it up with the upper card at his peak as an underdog face.

I can definitely see that argument against him. Otherwise, if it was just purely about weight, then Daniel Bryan should be in this, when the only place he really wrestled as a recognised junior was in Japan.

It is kind of the vagueness about what constitutes a junior/cruiser. It isn't purely weight. It isn't style. I guess it's more working in a junior division or fighting for cruiser titles. And for most of your career at that, since Benoit was a top junior for years in Japan, but I wouldn't expect to see him pop up in this tournament since his biggest success was as a heavy in the States.

The same issue with Pillman could be made about Rey. Do we discount most of his WWE run and simply consider only his junior work? Which is more than enough to see him have a chance of winning this really. Rey did always feel like a junior so good that he could mix it up with the big guys (in kayfabe) so he still always felt like a junior I guess, but the same argument could be made for Pillman when in the ring with Flair, Windham, Luger, etc.

You misunderstood my post. I wasn't claiming that Pillman is not a cruiserweight - I certainly think he counts. It was just a tongue-in-cheek post made because I think Almas is awesome, and I was legitimately a bit disappointed that he wasn't one of the six to advance. Pillman was my target of facetious blame because I knew he'd advance and I think he's overrated. However, your post does raise a good point.

Oct 31, 2017 10:20:14 GMT Strobe said:

It is kind of the vagueness about what constitutes a junior/cruiser. It isn't purely weight. It isn't style. I guess it's more working in a junior division or fighting for cruiser titles. And for most of your career at that, since Benoit was a top junior for years in Japan, but I wouldn't expect to see him pop up in this tournament since his biggest success was as a heavy in the States.

This brings me back to me saying that I never thought of Roderick Strong as a junior. He may be in the right weight class and "look like" a junior (I don't think this, maybe it's his height or something), but he's always in the top division in Indy companies which makes me think heavyweight, and I don't know if he ever competed in a junior division in Japan or somewhere else. I never thought he had a cruiserweight wrestling style either. All signs point to Roderick Strong is not a cruiserweight, but nobody else feels this way.

Oct 31, 2017 12:23:24 GMT Emperor said:

Oct 31, 2017 10:20:14 GMT Strobe said:

 All signs point to Roderick Strong is not a cruiserweight, but nobody else feels this way.

I also feel this way. But I would say that I also feel this way about Almas as I've only seen him in NXT where cruiserweights don't even exist!

I don't think of Strong as a junior either, but I think it's a ROH thing. Given the size of their workers and the style, people who would be juniors in other feds didn't feel like they were there. I don't think of Ki as a junior either for example, even with his Senshi days in TNA.

Maybe Strong's style, in comparison with his tag partner Aries, helped foster this idea as well. Aries always felt like more of a junior, even though they are similar size wise.

It does seem like it can just be more of a feeling as to if you consider them, with style and size as factors but on an individual basis.

Oct 31, 2017 12:23:24 GMT Emperor said:

Pillman was my target of facetious blame because I knew he'd advance and I think he's overrated.

Out of interest, what Pillman have you seen?

Oct 31, 2017 12:48:22 GMT PB said:

Oct 31, 2017 12:23:24 GMT Emperor said:

 All signs point to Roderick Strong is not a cruiserweight, but nobody else feels this way.

I also feel this way. But I would say that I also feel this way about Almas as I've only seen him in NXT where cruiserweights don't even exist!

Yeah, when I was typing that post I was thinking "doesn't all of what I just said apply to Almas?" I guess the difference is that Almas wrestled for years in Mexico and so I have that lucha/cruiserweight association in my mind. Plus he wrestles much more cruiserweight-like than Strong does. Especially before he turned heel.

Oct 31, 2017 14:17:15 GMT Strobe said:

I don't think of Strong as a junior either, but I think it's a ROH thing. Given the size of their workers and the style, people who would be juniors in other feds didn't feel like they were there. I don't think of Ki as a junior either for example, even with his Senshi days in TNA.

That's a good point. Strong was one of the bigger guys in the company in the 2004-2006 period. Danielson was their World Champion and he's on the small side even by ROH standards.

Oct 31, 2017 14:17:15 GMT Strobe said:

Out of interest, what Pillman have you seen?

Not enough for my claim of overratedness to hold much weight :lol: I've seen his match with Liger, a handful of Hollywood Blondes matches, the gun segment with Austin, an ECW promo, and I think that's it. I don't think he's a bad wrestler at all, he's certainly above average, but not this one of the GOATs shtick that some people like to claim. One of those cases where something gets overhyped so much, and I don't get it, so I start to resent it.

Liger

Jushin Liger advances, Next up is... 

Ryusuke Taguchi

V's

Sami Zayn  

Taguchi. Zayn's going to be the popular vote here, but when Taguchi's on, he's legitimately one of the best juniors in the world, even past his prime in 2017. It's unfortunate that he spends most of his time wrestling a light, comedy style. On the other hand, that's very good for longevity.

Sami Zayn (although I again don't really count him as a CW - but can never vote against him).

Taguchi

Sami Zayn

Sami Zayn.

Sami Zayn advances in a nail biting encounter, The next match is...

Chris Candido V's La Parka