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Post by KING KID on Mar 24, 2019 23:34:04 GMT
No collusion.
What’s that?
How much time of taxpayer money did you waste?
What’s that?
No collusion.
So what the fuck were we doing this whole time?
Fucking criminals on the left just wasted time and effort on a witch hunt and is by far the most embarrassing thing in the history of Democrats. Fucking punks.
Donald Trump is the GOAT and the left has to swallow, gag on and choke on crow. Bitches!
NO COLLUSION! NO OBSTRUCTION!
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Post by iNCY on Mar 24, 2019 23:37:22 GMT
The Democrats could easily lose the election here, if they pivot and start on the Stormy Daniels and hush money front, I think the American people will see it as bitter people with a vendetta.
Don't get me wrong, Trump is as crooked as the day is long, but there is no way there is a smoking gun. He has been shifty for enough years that there is no paper trail anywhere. It's like the Mafia, they never directly ask somebody to do something, everything is implied.
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Post by nazzer on Mar 24, 2019 23:49:37 GMT
Maybe the Democrats should just talk about themselves and their own policies in the next election campaign.
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Post by KING KID on Mar 25, 2019 0:18:50 GMT
I think the democrats just lost the 2020 election today.
Game over criminals.
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Post by iNCY on Mar 25, 2019 0:23:08 GMT
I think this is a lot like a typical Trump business /politics meeting
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Post by RT on Mar 25, 2019 1:22:05 GMT
I don't believe a thing Barr says until the report is released. And it doesn't look like it will be either.
I didn't expect much to come of the Mueller report but at the same time, Trump fired two other AG's to get Barr in there, and after a day of having a report that took almost two years to create, he releases a statement clearing the President? Come on.
No mention of the Trump tower meetings. I'm glad Barr is being called to testify because something isn't right about this.
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Post by KING KID on Mar 25, 2019 1:29:15 GMT
I don't believe a thing Barr says until the report is released. And it doesn't look like it will be either. I didn't expect much to come of the Mueller report but at the same time, Trump fired two other AG's to get Barr in there, and after a day of having a report that took almost two years to create, he releases a statement clearing the President? Come on. No mention of the Trump tower meetings. I'm glad Barr is being called to testify because something isn't right about this. When does the witch hunt end?
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Post by KING KID on Mar 25, 2019 2:17:22 GMT
Lmao. CNNs top story right now;
The college admission scam. Lmao. They are pathetic. While we’re embarrassed, let’s continue to talk about Aunt Becky.
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Post by Kilgore on Mar 25, 2019 2:30:06 GMT
Strategically, it was one of the dumbest moves ever. Like Trump has committed so many financial crimes, could easily go to jail for several of them, yet the Dems chose instead to go after him on some Cold War Spy Novel bullshit just because Hillary Clinton couldn't admit that she lost an election because she sucks. Also going after any politician for financial crimes would open up like 98% of Congress to be put in jail for similar things, so might as well just pretend the President is a KGB spy instead. The most hilarious part was people who rightfully laughed at "OBAMA IS A MUSLIM SLEEPER AGENT," or whatever the fuck that was about, were then like, "TRUMP IS A RUSSIAN SLEEPER AGENT." Political discourse in 21st Century America.
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Post by iNCY on Mar 25, 2019 2:37:20 GMT
Strategically, it was one of the dumbest moves ever. Like Trump has committed so many financial crimes, could easily go to jail for several of them, yet the Dems chose instead to go after him on some Cold War Spy Novel bullshit just because Hillary Clinton couldn't admit that she lost an election because she sucks. Also going after any politician for financial crimes would open up like 98% of Congress to be put in jail for similar things, so might as well just pretend the President is a KGB spy instead. The most hilarious part was people who rightfully laughed at "OBAMA IS A MUSLIM SLEEPER AGENT," or whatever the fuck that was about, were then like, "TRUMP IS A RUSSIAN SLEEPER AGENT." Political discourse in 21st Century America. The really ironic part is that Hillary did things that currently have other people in jail. It's a mistake to continue this pursuit of Trump the same way the Republicans went too far over the Lewinsky thing... Nobody really cares. Talk about divisions, talk about policy, RT, I know what you're saying but an AG isn't going to give the all clear if there is even a chance they can be caught lying. I'm sure the report has shady stuff in it, but you cannot subpoena evidence, find a person innocent then table all of the dirt you dug up anyone. Trump is a shit head, but that's not justice.
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Post by RT on Mar 25, 2019 3:33:09 GMT
Strategically, it was one of the dumbest moves ever. Like Trump has committed so many financial crimes, could easily go to jail for several of them, yet the Dems chose instead to go after him on some Cold War Spy Novel bullshit just because Hillary Clinton couldn't admit that she lost an election because she sucks. Also going after any politician for financial crimes would open up like 98% of Congress to be put in jail for similar things, so might as well just pretend the President is a KGB spy instead. The most hilarious part was people who rightfully laughed at "OBAMA IS A MUSLIM SLEEPER AGENT," or whatever the fuck that was about, were then like, "TRUMP IS A RUSSIAN SLEEPER AGENT." Political discourse in 21st Century America. The really ironic part is that Hillary did things that currently have other people in jail. It's a mistake to continue this pursuit of Trump the same way the Republicans went too far over the Lewinsky thing... Nobody really cares. Talk about divisions, talk about policy, RT , I know what you're saying but an AG isn't going to give the all clear if there is even a chance they can be caught lying. I'm sure the report has shady stuff in it, but you cannot subpoena evidence, find a person innocent then table all of the dirt you dug up anyone. Trump is a shit head, but that's not justice. Why should we believe anything said by someone Trump appointed? Every single person involved with him lies through their teeth. Why would Barr be any different?
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Post by iNCY on Mar 25, 2019 5:22:22 GMT
The really ironic part is that Hillary did things that currently have other people in jail. It's a mistake to continue this pursuit of Trump the same way the Republicans went too far over the Lewinsky thing... Nobody really cares. Talk about divisions, talk about policy, RT , I know what you're saying but an AG isn't going to give the all clear if there is even a chance they can be caught lying. I'm sure the report has shady stuff in it, but you cannot subpoena evidence, find a person innocent then table all of the dirt you dug up anyone. Trump is a shit head, but that's not justice. Why should we believe anything said by someone Trump appointed? Every single person involved with him lies through their teeth. Why would Barr be any different? If he lies, Mueller said he lied and he is busted. He's already been quick to say that Trump was not exonerated, which is weird because in an investigation scenario it is not about exoneration it is about guilty or not guilty.
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Post by RT on Mar 25, 2019 6:01:42 GMT
Why should we believe anything said by someone Trump appointed? Every single person involved with him lies through their teeth. Why would Barr be any different? If he lies, Mueller said he lied and he is busted. He's already been quick to say that Trump was not exonerated, which is weird because in an investigation scenario it is not about exoneration it is about guilty or not guilty. Hm I didn’t see that part. Alright then. Still would like to see what’s in the report though. Side note: I don’t see how anyone could celebrate today. Trump supporters are acting like this is the best news ever. Really? You’re happy that Trump was too stupid to realize what was going on? Because that’s what this report suggests. With everything we know about meetings and exchange of info and what have you, Trump not being guilty of collusion just means he covered his tracks, or is so fucking dumb he didn’t know what was going on. And a foreign power still interfered in your election. That’s a thing. That happened. And it’s happening in other countries too. And your President is doing nothing because they picked him to win. You’re ok with that? Really? What happens when China decides they want a Democrat in the White House instead and does the same thing? Precedent has been set now. When you’re all angry about the Dems benefiting from things that Trump allowed to happen, just remember this.
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Post by iNCY on Mar 25, 2019 6:11:25 GMT
RT,of course he knew what was going on... He is just not dumb enough to leave a trail. The whole case was pointless... The USA interferes 100% times more in elections all over the world, that is the stupidest part.
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Post by RT on Mar 25, 2019 6:27:21 GMT
RT,of course he knew what was going on... He is just not dumb enough to leave a trail. The whole case was pointless... The USA interferes 100% times more in elections all over the world, that is the stupidest part. Oh I totally see the hypocrisy of it all. That isn’t lost on me. Speaking of, I’ve seen a lot of talk today about how this wasted tax dollars. I’m curious how those same people feel about Trump spending so much time golfing and wining and dining his friends at his resort. You’re paying for that too.
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Post by iNCY on Mar 25, 2019 10:53:11 GMT
It's has to be about the most hypocritical thing ever RT, The whole furore was kicked off by an ex British intelligence office getting information of Russians with democrat money.
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Post by thereallt on Mar 25, 2019 15:18:35 GMT
At the end of the day all the Russians did was air out the Democrats' dirty laundry. I found it hilarious that so much focus was put on the Russians rather than, you know, the fact the Democrats had all these skeletons in their closets. If the MSM was actually doing their jobs a lot of this would have came out anyway.
At the end of the day, the Mueller report is an absolute disaster for Democrats in terms of collusion with Russia. Even obstruction is going to be a huge stretch as this is largely based off the firing of Comey. FBI directors serve at the discretion of the president, Comey himself even admitted this. Same goes for the AG.
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Post by iNCY on Mar 26, 2019 8:51:55 GMT
This recognition of the Golan heights is pretty sick to be honest. It's purely for interfering in a foreign election.
The USA disgusts me sometimes. Congress passed a law in February that penalizies any business that takes part in a boycott of Israel. So it's okay for Israel to build a wall and practice actual genocide by denying rights to a portion of their population. Anyone who disagrees with this is obviously an anti Semite who should be penalised... But a wall on your border is immoral?
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Post by RagnarokMike on Mar 26, 2019 10:43:19 GMT
The fact that multiple of his underlings were being found to have been communicating with the Russians left absolutely 0 reason to not investigate to its fullest extent, people are acting like the shit came out of the blue. Even if it went no where, just like when they reopened the Hillary E-Mail thing just before the election, it was a moral obligation to do everything possible to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt. And only Barr said no obstruction (and we already know Trump's men will even lie under oath), even if it's at the very least exactly as likely there was, it's a hard thing to prove.
There is no witch hunt, he's an objectively awful person who's continuously given reasons to doubt him. Like it's a coincidence that so many people around him were getting charged with crimes, birds of a feather and all that jazz. As corrupt as they come, so I do truly hope the criminals do lose the next election, and we get an actual president sooner than later. Then again, there's little in the way of respectable candidates right now, there was basically none in the last election; Bernie was about the closest, and even he's a bit out there. Defending Trump and not wanting a criminal in office is like wanting the H2O out of your bath...but not the water.
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Post by RT on Mar 26, 2019 15:39:58 GMT
Elizabeth Warren would make an amazing President, but thanks to Hillary Clinton's incredible fuck ups in 2016, Warren is just going to be cast as "Hillary 2.0" and not stand a chance.
"She's a dem with a short haircut and wears pant suits. She's Hillary!" Done. Because most American voters are stupid.
From an outsiders perspective, I feel like Kamala Harris is going to be the dem candidate. Woman of colour who is centrist on a lot of key issues. Checks every box on the dems list.
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I wonder why Mitch McConnell blocked the vote to release the report after Congress voted 420-0 that it should be. Interesting. It must be, like, so exonerating that people wouldn't believe it. It probably even says that Trump is completely innocent and that he's the most law-abiding President in history. That must be it.
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Post by KING KID on Mar 26, 2019 16:47:36 GMT
I’m not too fond of the Golan Heights move. I’m big for tradition. You can’t just give someone something that’s not there’s to have. I’m totally against that.
Kamala Harris would be an AWFUL president. God forbid.
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Post by Michinokudriver on Mar 27, 2019 1:41:51 GMT
I don't believe a thing Barr says until the report is released. And it doesn't look like it will be either. I didn't expect much to come of the Mueller report but at the same time, Trump fired two other AG's to get Barr in there, and after a day of having a report that took almost two years to create, he releases a statement clearing the President? Come on. No mention of the Trump tower meetings. I'm glad Barr is being called to testify because something isn't right about this. Barr worded his statement specifically to mention the Russian government -- the Trump Tower meetings involved a Russian lobbyist and a Russian lawyer who has multiple deep ties to the Russian government, but officially is herself not a government employee.
It would greatly surprise me if the Russian gov't really, REALLY backed long-shot Trump to win the White House; to put that much time and effort and money into a losing candidate and the risk of being exposed. I've long felt the true aim of Russian election interference is to whip up a frenzy and make us all hate each other. A divided US is a distracted US and a weakened US.
I'm not sure I thought much actionable information would come out of this, and I think top Dems expected the same (Pelosi playing down any calls of impeachment earlier this month).
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Post by thereallt on Mar 27, 2019 4:00:23 GMT
This recognition of the Golan heights is pretty sick to be honest. It's purely for interfering in a foreign election. The USA disgusts me sometimes. Congress passed a law in February that penalizies any business that takes part in a boycott of Israel. So it's okay for Israel to build a wall and practice actual genocide by denying rights to a portion of their population. Anyone who disagrees with this is obviously an anti Semite who should be penalised... But a wall on your border is immoral? LOL at genocide. Palestinian Arab population has gone up from a few hundred thousand in 1948 to almost 4.8 million currently. If Israel is practicing genocide they must absolutely suck at it. As far as Golan Heights is concerned, considering Syria has never recognized Israel's right to exist, nor have they ever given up on their goal of destroying the state, color me unsympathetic. Egypt did both of these things and low and behold they got the Sinai Peninsula back, despite the fact that the Sinai Peninsula held a fuck ton of oil that Israel could have used for itself. Not saying the Israelis are some kind of paragons here, but considering they are surrounded on all sides by far worse, I can't really blame them for their approach.
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Post by iNCY on Mar 27, 2019 13:02:08 GMT
This recognition of the Golan heights is pretty sick to be honest. It's purely for interfering in a foreign election. The USA disgusts me sometimes. Congress passed a law in February that penalizies any business that takes part in a boycott of Israel. So it's okay for Israel to build a wall and practice actual genocide by denying rights to a portion of their population. Anyone who disagrees with this is obviously an anti Semite who should be penalised... But a wall on your border is immoral? LOL at genocide. Palestinian Arab population has gone up from a few hundred thousand in 1948 to almost 4.8 million currently. If Israel is practicing genocide they must absolutely suck at it. As far as Golan Heights is concerned, considering Syria has never recognized Israel's right to exist, nor have they ever given up on their goal of destroying the state, color me unsympathetic. Egypt did both of these things and low and behold they got the Sinai Peninsula back, despite the fact that the Sinai Peninsula held a fuck ton of oil that Israel could have used for itself. Not saying the Israelis are some kind of paragons here, but considering they are surrounded on all sides by far worse, I can't really blame them for their approach. What? That's total crap, people in Palestine live in total poverty and have a life expectancy 10 years less than an Israeli. www.oxfam.org/en/occupied-palestinian-territory-and-israel/timeline-humanitarian-impact-gaza-blockadeDo you support a two-state solution or are you happy for this to take place? This is why I despise hypocrisy, people love the Irish despite the IRA killing women and children, all on the dime of US private donations. But Arabs, oh they're violent shit and not worth saving. Crazy thing is there are probably more Christians in Palestine and the surrounding "far worse" (as you so eloquently put it) people than there in Israel. Western nations are crap, ISIS gets defeated and nobody wants to help pick up the pieces. If nobody builds schools and infrastructure in Syria and Iraq, same thing or worse will happen again.
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Post by iNCY on Mar 27, 2019 13:07:43 GMT
Elizabeth Warren would make an amazing President, but thanks to Hillary Clinton's incredible fuck ups in 2016, Warren is just going to be cast as "Hillary 2.0" and not stand a chance. "She's a dem with a short haircut and wears pant suits. She's Hillary!" Done. Because most American voters are stupid. From an outsiders perspective, I feel like Kamala Harris is going to be the dem candidate. Woman of colour who is centrist on a lot of key issues. Checks every box on the dems list. ... I wonder why Mitch McConnell blocked the vote to release the report after Congress voted 420-0 that it should be. Interesting. It must be, like, so exonerating that people wouldn't believe it. It probably even says that Trump is completely innocent and that he's the most law-abiding President in history. That must be it. It has to be redacted, imagine you were being investigated for fraud at your work and they obtained your internet records from your ISP. Then you got off, but they released your internet browsing history because it is in the public interest and all... So now everyone you ever knew is aware of your fascination for midgets in leather chaps. (Not that I'm judging) If Biden runs, he has to get the nod doesn't he? As ugly as the truth is, I think they need to run a middle aged white guy against Trump... The biggest hurdle to a woman being elected is that women judge women way harsher than men do. If all was even Hillary would never have got the nod last time around, that was more about the back room than the hearts and minds of the people.
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Post by thereallt on Mar 27, 2019 16:03:52 GMT
LOL at genocide. Palestinian Arab population has gone up from a few hundred thousand in 1948 to almost 4.8 million currently. If Israel is practicing genocide they must absolutely suck at it. As far as Golan Heights is concerned, considering Syria has never recognized Israel's right to exist, nor have they ever given up on their goal of destroying the state, color me unsympathetic. Egypt did both of these things and low and behold they got the Sinai Peninsula back, despite the fact that the Sinai Peninsula held a fuck ton of oil that Israel could have used for itself. Not saying the Israelis are some kind of paragons here, but considering they are surrounded on all sides by far worse, I can't really blame them for their approach. What? That's total crap, people in Palestine live in total poverty and have a life expectancy 10 years less than an Israeli. www.oxfam.org/en/occupied-palestinian-territory-and-israel/timeline-humanitarian-impact-gaza-blockadeDo you support a two-state solution or are you happy for this to take place? This is why I despise hypocrisy, people love the Irish despite the IRA killing women and children, all on the dime of US private donations. But Arabs, oh they're violent shit and not worth saving. Crazy thing is there are probably more Christians in Palestine and the surrounding "far worse" (as you so eloquently put it) people than there in Israel. Western nations are crap, ISIS gets defeated and nobody wants to help pick up the pieces. If nobody builds schools and infrastructure in Syria and Iraq, same thing or worse will happen again. Genocide= Exterminating the population. You can't make that argument when the population in question INCREASES every year. No one is saying the Israeli's treatment of the Palestinian Arabs has been anything close to humane, but genocide it is not. I will say this though, they have far more humane than the surrounding Arab countries have been to their Jewish populations, the overwhelming majority of which were forced to leave. I do support a two-state solution, a solution that by my count the Palestinian Authority has turned down TWICE. Most recently at the 2000 Camp David summit. Oh and those Christians you mentioned? They are PERSECUTED throughout most of the Middle East as well as Muslim Africa.
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Post by RT on Mar 27, 2019 20:03:55 GMT
Elizabeth Warren would make an amazing President, but thanks to Hillary Clinton's incredible fuck ups in 2016, Warren is just going to be cast as "Hillary 2.0" and not stand a chance. "She's a dem with a short haircut and wears pant suits. She's Hillary!" Done. Because most American voters are stupid. From an outsiders perspective, I feel like Kamala Harris is going to be the dem candidate. Woman of colour who is centrist on a lot of key issues. Checks every box on the dems list. ... I wonder why Mitch McConnell blocked the vote to release the report after Congress voted 420-0 that it should be. Interesting. It must be, like, so exonerating that people wouldn't believe it. It probably even says that Trump is completely innocent and that he's the most law-abiding President in history. That must be it. It has to be redacted, imagine you were being investigated for fraud at your work and they obtained your internet records from your ISP. Then you got off, but they released your internet browsing history because it is in the public interest and all... So now everyone you ever knew is aware of your fascination for midgets in leather chaps. (Not that I'm judging) If Biden runs, he has to get the nod doesn't he? As ugly as the truth is, I think they need to run a middle aged white guy against Trump... The biggest hurdle to a woman being elected is that women judge women way harsher than men do. If all was even Hillary would never have got the nod last time around, that was more about the back room than the hearts and minds of the people. Yeah alright when you put it that way I guess that makes sense. But we both know they're going to cite "executive privilege" and release a report that looks like a bar code. I hate "whataboutism" as much as the next person but I saw a good tweet that was essentially "imagine if Janet Reno was handed the Starr report on Bill Clinton and released a summary saying he didn't do anything, then Bill Clinton got to redact the report before it went public." The Republican congress at the time would have come to a complete stand still and they would have been calling for his head. ... As for Biden, is he going to run? Feels like the democratic party is looking at how diverse congress is now and saying to themselves that the centrist old white guy isn't going to fly. That being said I'm still confident if they run him he wins because he takes all the swing states Hillary lost for god damn sure, but the democratic party hasn't instilled any confidence in people since 2016, and they seem incapable of making good political decisions right now.
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Post by iNCY on Mar 28, 2019 0:35:13 GMT
Genocide= Exterminating the population. You can't make that argument when the population in question INCREASES every year. No one is saying the Israeli's treatment of the Palestinian Arabs has been anything close to humane, but genocide it is not. I will say this though, they have far more humane than the surrounding Arab countries have been to their Jewish populations, the overwhelming majority of which were forced to leave. I do support a two-state solution, a solution that by my count the Palestinian Authority has turned down TWICE. Most recently at the 2000 Camp David summit. Oh and those Christians you mentioned? They are PERSECUTED throughout most of the Middle East as well as Muslim Africa. Yeah you can totally make the case that it is genocide, the entire area of Palestine is essentially a prisoner of war camp. The blockade sees almost nothing arrive into the territories meaning the economy is dying and people are languishing in poverty, real poverty, not trendy first-world poverty. As for the definition of Genocide, let's defer to the UN who decide it: www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtmlOf particular interest is the following definition: As for the two-state solution, Israel's offer wasn't genuine. They are an illegal occupying force in the disputed territories, no different to Iraq in Kuwait... But nobody cares about it. It's utter bullshit to steal land and then make a grand gesture of offering to give some of it back. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_242If I robbed your house and took everything you owned before offering to return just the silverware, would you consider it justice? And lets not forget that the Israeli's were the aggressors in the 6 day war.
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Post by thereallt on Mar 28, 2019 21:58:14 GMT
Genocide= Exterminating the population. You can't make that argument when the population in question INCREASES every year. No one is saying the Israeli's treatment of the Palestinian Arabs has been anything close to humane, but genocide it is not. I will say this though, they have far more humane than the surrounding Arab countries have been to their Jewish populations, the overwhelming majority of which were forced to leave. I do support a two-state solution, a solution that by my count the Palestinian Authority has turned down TWICE. Most recently at the 2000 Camp David summit. Oh and those Christians you mentioned? They are PERSECUTED throughout most of the Middle East as well as Muslim Africa. Yeah you can totally make the case that it is genocide, the entire area of Palestine is essentially a prisoner of war camp. The blockade sees almost nothing arrive into the territories meaning the economy is dying and people are languishing in poverty, real poverty, not trendy first-world poverty. As for the definition of Genocide, let's defer to the UN who decide it: www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtmlOf particular interest is the following definition: As for the two-state solution, Israel's offer wasn't genuine. They are an illegal occupying force in the disputed territories, no different to Iraq in Kuwait... But nobody cares about it. It's utter bullshit to steal land and then make a grand gesture of offering to give some of it back. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_242If I robbed your house and took everything you owned before offering to return just the silverware, would you consider it justice? And lets not forget that the Israeli's were the aggressors in the 6 day war. Once again the population of Palestinian Arabs has INCREASED every year. Enough for mothers to send their sons to have bombs strapped to them and die. So even the UN definition doesn't apply here. And how was the 2000 Camp David summit not a genuine attempt? Israel offered over 90% of the West Bank, ALL of Gaza and East Jerusalem to serve as the Palestinian capital. Arafat not only turned it down, he refused to make a counter-offer and THEN started the 2nd Infatilda. Even my Palestinian friends at ECU were shocked by this. And you know what this was over? The "right" of return, which would have negotiated Israel right out of existence. Arafat was trying to take at the negotiation table what he couldn't take by force of arms. The process is called "Land for peace" Not land for more suicide bombings and rocket fire.
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Post by kbc on Mar 30, 2019 18:43:04 GMT
We saw a 4 page summary from an Attorney General who was appointed by the President. The Mueller report is 300 pages. I'm sick and fucking tired of hearing about not enough evidence to indict but it doesn't exonerate him either bullshit. Same with the Jussie Smollett case. Either choose one or the other and make a goddamn decision. I respect Robert Mueller. I'm not happy with the conclusion but I want to see the final report. All of it. Enough of this we can't show you bullshit.
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