So this piece of shit did it. He fucking killed himself.

I am so pissed off about this. I've been following this case and have been so disgusted by him and this untouchable world he created where he turned innocent young girls into sex slaves. Now this cocksucker kills himself and escapes his karma of prison. That shit pisses me off. What really gets me is how this motherfucker attempted suicide a week or two ago, but failed and was STILL able to pull off the stunt! How he didn't have more supervision and less chance of doing so is fucking despicable. 

Yesterday was an explosive day, too where big, powerful names that were involved in this pedophile sex world were released. A female named these names as people she was forced to perform sexual acts on as a minor. Names include; Former Maine Senator George Mitchell. Former New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson. Money manager Glenn Dubin and MIT professor Marvin Minsky. 

They should all burn in fucking hell alongside Jeffrey Epstein. How unfair is that.

Ah, now I understand why you're anti-euthanasia.

I live under a rock like Patrick... No idea who Jeff Einstein is/was. But(t) fuck pedos.

“Suicide.”

Am I the only one not remotely bothered by this?

Aug 10, 2019 19:36:57 GMT mikec said:

Am I the only one not remotely bothered by this?

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy, but I agree something is definitely fishy about it.

I just think it's fucked up that he was able to kill himself in federal lockdown. Especially when these victims of his were unable to get their justice the way it was deserved. With him in court looking at all the peoples lives he hurt/ruined/traumatized and hear the words, "You're guilty." He knows he's guilty, but it would've been nice for the court to rule it that way. Then I could've given a fuck less if he killed himself in prison.

Much like Castro sounds like justice was served.

He was in suicide watch.

It’s the day after files were unsealed.

He has clear-cut ties to people on both sides (Trump and Clintons).

Leaks there was a “camera malfunction.”

They really think we are that stupid.

Aug 10, 2019 22:11:33 GMT KJ said:

He was in suicide watch.

It’s the day after files were unsealed.

He has clear-cut ties to people on both sides (Trump and Clintons).

Leaks there was a “camera malfunction.”

They really think we are that stupid.

Yeah. Insanely fishy.

He also has ties/dirt with the Royal family.

Fishy indeed. As we all are probably thinking, there are bigger names behind him and his crimes that didn't want this to go to trial. It was in their best benefit that he commit 'suicide'. I believe 100% he was killed and it's too bad not all the people responisbile will get theirs.

I don’t really have the conspiracy mind. By far the most likely scenario is that an already known to be suicidal billionaire who was facing the rest of his life in prison and having all of his dark secrets revealed in open court decided to keep trying to kill himself soon after being taken off suicide watch and that gossip of cameras malfunctioning are just internet rumors that don’t have a kernel of support behind them.

Though if someone did him in, I’d presume he probably associated with a handful of people who were connected to criminal elements. It’s fun to link him to politicians, but I’m sure there are darker people who would have reason and means to kill him.

(Also no real sympathy for the victims about the guy killing himself. They have the means to tell their story, they didn’t need a courtroom to do it.)

Aug 11, 2019 0:20:55 GMT mikec said:

I don’t really have the conspiracy mind. By far the most likely scenario is that an already known to be suicidal billionaire who was facing the rest of his life in prison and having all of his dark secrets revealed in open court decided to keep trying to kill himself soon after being taken off suicide watch and that gossip of cameras malfunctioning are just internet rumors that don’t have a kernel of support behind them.

Though if someone did him in, I’d presume he probably associated with a handful of people who were connected to criminal elements. It’s fun to link him to politicians, but I’m sure there are darker people who would have reason and means to kill him.

(Also no real sympathy for the victims about the guy killing himself. They have the means to tell their story, they didn’t need a courtroom to do it.)

Even if the leaks about the camera is just BS, how does a high-profile prisoner in a maximum security prison that’s on suicide watch successfully hang himself?

Sorry, I don’t buy it.

Yeah and the NYPost interviewed someone who was locked up in that facility and the guy said that there is no way you can hang yourself in those cells. It's 8-9 feet up to get anything to hang up and there's nothing to use to even reach that high. He also said that anything you do use would be too flimsy to actually hold your weight, suffocate you and snap your neck.

It's all too suspicious. None of it makes sense.

Aug 11, 2019 2:28:05 GMT KJ said:

Aug 11, 2019 0:20:55 GMT mikec said:

I don’t really have the conspiracy mind. By far the most likely scenario is that an already known to be suicidal billionaire who was facing the rest of his life in prison and having all of his dark secrets revealed in open court decided to keep trying to kill himself soon after being taken off suicide watch and that gossip of cameras malfunctioning are just internet rumors that don’t have a kernel of support behind them.

Though if someone did him in, I’d presume he probably associated with a handful of people who were connected to criminal elements. It’s fun to link him to politicians, but I’m sure there are darker people who would have reason and means to kill him.

(Also no real sympathy for the victims about the guy killing himself. They have the means to tell their story, they didn’t need a courtroom to do it.)

Even if the leaks about the camera is just BS, how does a high-profile prisoner in a maximum security prison that’s on suicide watch successfully hang himself?

Sorry, I don’t buy it.

He wasn’t on suicide watch anymore, which makes it considerably easier to believe.

The death will forever be a conspiracy theory. On the Marilyn Monroe level.

I mean a lot of important people were involved. Princes, governors, mayors, business owners. His first suicide attempt in prison is still being investigated whether it was a suicide attempt or an assault. There’s just too much fishy shit in this. Especially where he was locked up. The chances of suicide going down are slim to none in that kind of lockdown. So the fact that the slim to none happened has to be suspicious.

Aug 11, 2019 0:20:55 GMT mikec said:

I don’t really have the conspiracy mind. By far the most likely scenario is that an already known to be suicidal billionaire who was facing the rest of his life in prison and having all of his dark secrets revealed in open court decided to keep trying to kill himself soon after being taken off suicide watch and that gossip of cameras malfunctioning are just internet rumors that don’t have a kernel of support behind them.

Though if someone did him in, I’d presume he probably associated with a handful of people who were connected to criminal elements. It’s fun to link him to politicians, but I’m sure there are darker people who would have reason and means to kill him.

(Also no real sympathy for the victims about the guy killing himself. They have the means to tell their story, they didn’t need a courtroom to do it.)

I’m honestly shocked to hear that last line coming from you. These are women that were fucking kids when all this shit happened to them. Yes their stories will come out but they don’t get the pleasure to watch Epstein get the sentencing and the torture of hearing these stories and being shamed.

This isn't justice.
If this scum bag was guilty then there was a laundry list of the rich and famous just as guilty.
Some smart lawyer will get the seized evidence thrown out on their inability to cross examine and disgusting powerful predators walk.

I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist, but I find the suicide of someone who is on suicide watch after attempting suicide to be entirely unbelievable.

Aug 11, 2019 4:53:05 GMT mikec said:

Aug 11, 2019 2:28:05 GMT KJ said:

Even if the leaks about the camera is just BS, how does a high-profile prisoner in a maximum security prison that’s on suicide watch successfully hang himself?

Sorry, I don’t buy it.

He wasn’t on suicide watch anymore, which makes it considerably easier to believe.

Mmhmm. That makes more sense. Let’s take a guy off suicide watch the day his records unseal.

Aug 11, 2019 4:59:05 GMT KING KID said:

Aug 11, 2019 0:20:55 GMT mikec said:

I don’t really have the conspiracy mind. By far the most likely scenario is that an already known to be suicidal billionaire who was facing the rest of his life in prison and having all of his dark secrets revealed in open court decided to keep trying to kill himself soon after being taken off suicide watch and that gossip of cameras malfunctioning are just internet rumors that don’t have a kernel of support behind them.

Though if someone did him in, I’d presume he probably associated with a handful of people who were connected to criminal elements. It’s fun to link him to politicians, but I’m sure there are darker people who would have reason and means to kill him.

(Also no real sympathy for the victims about the guy killing himself. They have the means to tell their story, they didn’t need a courtroom to do it.)

I’m honestly shocked to hear that last line coming from you. These are women that were fucking kids when all this shit happened to them. Yes their stories will come out but they don’t get the pleasure to watch Epstein get the sentencing and the torture of hearing these stories and being shamed.

I agree completely.

Aug 11, 2019 4:59:05 GMT KING KID said:

Aug 11, 2019 0:20:55 GMT mikec said:

I don’t really have the conspiracy mind. By far the most likely scenario is that an already known to be suicidal billionaire who was facing the rest of his life in prison and having all of his dark secrets revealed in open court decided to keep trying to kill himself soon after being taken off suicide watch and that gossip of cameras malfunctioning are just internet rumors that don’t have a kernel of support behind them.

Though if someone did him in, I’d presume he probably associated with a handful of people who were connected to criminal elements. It’s fun to link him to politicians, but I’m sure there are darker people who would have reason and means to kill him.

(Also no real sympathy for the victims about the guy killing himself. They have the means to tell their story, they didn’t need a courtroom to do it.)

I’m honestly shocked to hear that last line coming from you. These are women that were fucking kids when all this shit happened to them. Yes their stories will come out but they don’t get the pleasure to watch Epstein get the sentencing and the torture of hearing these stories and being shamed.

...he’s dead. I’m pretty good with that outcome.

Aug 11, 2019 12:07:36 GMT KJ said:

Aug 11, 2019 4:53:05 GMT mikec said:

He wasn’t on suicide watch anymore, which makes it considerably easier to believe.

Mmhmm. That makes more sense. Let’s take a guy off suicide watch the day his records unseal.

Right, it’d be the first time the prison system made a mistake.

(Per the feds he was removed from suicide watch on July 29th - newrepublic.com/article/154729/completely-predictable-death-jeffrey-epstein )

Aug 11, 2019 2:28:05 GMT KJ said:

Aug 11, 2019 0:20:55 GMT mikec said:

I don’t really have the conspiracy mind. By far the most likely scenario is that an already known to be suicidal billionaire who was facing the rest of his life in prison and having all of his dark secrets revealed in open court decided to keep trying to kill himself soon after being taken off suicide watch and that gossip of cameras malfunctioning are just internet rumors that don’t have a kernel of support behind them.

Though if someone did him in, I’d presume he probably associated with a handful of people who were connected to criminal elements. It’s fun to link him to politicians, but I’m sure there are darker people who would have reason and means to kill him.

(Also no real sympathy for the victims about the guy killing himself. They have the means to tell their story, they didn’t need a courtroom to do it.)

Even if the leaks about the camera is just BS, how does a high-profile prisoner in a maximum security prison that’s on suicide watch successfully hang himself?

Sorry, I don’t buy it.

Incompetency. It’s tough to accept, but it runs rampant in this world. Many things shouldn’t happen, but they do. Often. I’m not saying it was definitely the case here, but it is easily a possibility. Nothing surprises me anymore.

Aug 11, 2019 4:59:05 GMT KING KID said:

Aug 11, 2019 0:20:55 GMT mikec said:

I don’t really have the conspiracy mind. By far the most likely scenario is that an already known to be suicidal billionaire who was facing the rest of his life in prison and having all of his dark secrets revealed in open court decided to keep trying to kill himself soon after being taken off suicide watch and that gossip of cameras malfunctioning are just internet rumors that don’t have a kernel of support behind them.

Though if someone did him in, I’d presume he probably associated with a handful of people who were connected to criminal elements. It’s fun to link him to politicians, but I’m sure there are darker people who would have reason and means to kill him.

(Also no real sympathy for the victims about the guy killing himself. They have the means to tell their story, they didn’t need a courtroom to do it.)

I’m honestly shocked to hear that last line coming from you. These are women that were fucking kids when all this shit happened to them. Yes their stories will come out but they don’t get the pleasure to watch Epstein get the sentencing and the torture of hearing these stories and being shamed.

You have a very strange way of thinking. I thought the norm on this kind of thing was that it’s hard for rape victims to even admit it ever happened, let alone openly talk about it to anyone. And especially in a huge setting like a courtroom would be even more threatening to them. They don’t like talking about it because they feel embarrassed and shame themselves. Not that they should, but many do.

Then there is definitely no guarantee that someone like Epstein would feel shame or bad at all from hearing it either. Some people just have a criminal mind and aren’t remorseful.

Plus knowing he’s dead is potentially even more comforting to them than hearing him get sentenced.

You don't need a high ceiling to hang yourself. In Micronesia, the popular method of suicide by hanging is on your knees. Ligature around the neck and doorknob and just lean forward.

I can totally see him doing himself in just on the pressure alone or facing a future of prison. No need for conspiracy intervention.

Think of it, you develop as a pedophile. Knowing your sexual interest is taboo to all of society. Almost universally. Even in prison, you are looked down upon. I am sure every pedophile thinks of killing themselves regularly. This ending fits. If anyone was Epstein they would have done the same thing I am sure.  He knew he had to fall on the sword.  He didn't need to be pushed.  I hardly think he was thinking grandiose as people project on him to that he was going to bring down pizza gate.

If you want a conspiracy and you are willing to go pre clinton. Dig your teeth into this.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_J._Spence


Ancient history lesson.  This shit ain't nothing new and it will happen again.


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilles_de_Rais

On one hand. 9 times out of 10 the simplest answer is usually correct. More than likely someone in the federal pen screwed up and Epstein was taken off suicide watch.


But on the other hand, it is a pretty big coincidence that he was taken off suicide watch so soon to trial. Knowing about his first suicide attempt, it wouldn't take much for those who wanted Epstein gone to give a discrete phone call and have him taken off suicide watch.

Yeah, people should stop assuming one way or the other without having any way to know. Either is possible.

I’ve seen a million people outraged at the conspiracy on Facebook. People who are so certain of things without any proof are one of the biggest problems with the world.

My mother is convinced the CIA killed JFK, that George W. Bush planned out and executed the 9/11 attacks, and that “the Mormons” are a secret militant organization determined to take over the country through violent force.

Why does she believe those things? Because they made sense to her. That’s it. Nothing you can say or do will change her mind at that point.

Don’t just believe things you hear or assume things that make sense to you. Be cautiously hesitant to believe anything without solid proof. Don’t be like my mother.

Aug 11, 2019 17:39:09 GMT thereallt said:

On one hand. 9 times out of 10 the simplest answer is usually correct. More than likely someone in the federal pen screwed up and Epstein was taken off suicide watch.


But on the other hand, it is a pretty big coincidence that he was taken off suicide watch so soon to trial. Knowing about his first suicide attempt, it wouldn't take much for those who wanted Epstein gone to give a discrete phone call and have him taken off suicide watch.

A call to have him taken off suicide watch is about as deep as I’m willing to dive into a conspiracy. But as the link I posted shared, suicide watch rarely lags very long and isn’t effective when it is.

People are already saying now he is dead the case is effectively closed.

Reports are saying the 30 minute checks that were to prevent him from committed suicide were not followed that night. He was also supposed to have a second inmate in his cell that was never transferred. Finally, following a hanging attempt protocol is to remove items that can be used to hang oneself, which was also not done here. Finally, removing him from suicide watch also went against protocol. The prison facilitated an environment that allowed him to easily kill himself by failing to do many different things that all broke from standard protocol and involved questionable decisions. Conspiracy or not the MCC will be hit with major lawsuits over this as the details of how someone who tried to commit suicide by hanging was able to hang themselves just over two weeks later.  Moreso when legally he was an innocent man.

The new thing they’re talking about is how the guards in charge that night were on “extreme overtime”. Not sure if that qualifies enough to not do your job or is an excuse to sleep on the job but this whole thing is a fucking mess. With messes come theories.

The Illuminati is real.