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Post by RT on Sept 26, 2019 5:41:00 GMT
That means nothing. More Fox News sensationalism. Stop falling for it. You’re smarter than that. She’s the speaker of the house so it’s her job to speak for Congress, who wants to push forward with impeachment. When she has time to read it she will. Her not reading it doesn’t make what’s in the document any less real. Fox News Sensationalism??? Those are HER WORDS. Verbatim. This shows Pelosi is now a slave to the hard left. They also have no bi-partisan support in Congress either. This is almost completely party line. Congress just voted 421-0 to release the whistleblower complaint, soooo....what was that party line thing again? And I don’t think you know what sensationalism is.
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Post by iNCY on Sept 26, 2019 6:11:14 GMT
It's odd that the actual complaint about Hunter Biden gets no coverage. After Biden bragged about it. How can you let Hillary off and go after Trump?
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Post by thereallt on Sept 26, 2019 12:11:37 GMT
Fox News Sensationalism??? Those are HER WORDS. Verbatim. This shows Pelosi is now a slave to the hard left. They also have no bi-partisan support in Congress either. This is almost completely party line. Congress just voted 421-0 to release the whistleblower complaint, soooo....what was that party line thing again? And I don’t think you know what sensationalism is. And?? Trump wasn't even trying to hide it. Rules for thee, but not for me. It's how the Dems have always operated.
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Post by KING KID on Sept 26, 2019 12:55:57 GMT
This whole thing is just a smokescreen from Biden.
Let’s face it. The left was supposed to be flourished with great candidates. Kamala Harris was “the one” until she wasn’t. And that’s after she stopped being herself and started talking like the hard left wants her to talk. Beto was supposed to be the one until he wasn’t. Super hardcore leftist that just keeps embarrassing himself. The left don’t want Bernie. He’s too much for them to handle and control. He’s practically senile. Elizabeth Warren stands no chance.
So realistically that leaves “bad ass” Biden for the left. Someone who is connected to Obama. Who isn’t afraid to yell back at Trump. He’s their Golden Boy and he’s being exposed now. Plus if they dig deeper, I would be willing to bet he is dirtier to women then Trump ever was. Dudes a creep. Now this Ukraine shit is happening and now they want to scream TRUMP WAS ON THE PHONE WITH THEM!
Jesus. The left is so embarrassing and all this is doing is making them look awful and giving Trump a landslide victory in 2020. The left might not even win 2024 with this attitude. They are so fucking embarrassing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 13:37:24 GMT
I never post or talk about politics and I don’t really care either way but since this was on my Twitter feed yesterday, I followed the story a bit. What astonishes me is how two different people (or sides) can read the exact same document word for word and come to the totally opposite conclusion. People are either saying the memo makes him totally guilty or they are saying the memo completely exonerates him of any wrong doing. I don’t really understand how that’s possible but I guess it’s more complicated than that.
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Post by RT on Sept 26, 2019 18:45:47 GMT
I never post or talk about politics and I don’t really care either way but since this was on my Twitter feed yesterday, I followed the story a bit. What astonishes me is how two different people (or sides) can read the exact same document word for word and come to the totally opposite conclusion. People are either saying the memo makes him totally guilty or they are saying the memo completely exonerates him of any wrong doing. I don’t really understand how that’s possible but I guess it’s more complicated than that. It’s pretty easy, actually. Americans view politics the same way they view team sports. They will believe whatever their side is telling them just because they don’t like the other side, regardless of who’s telling the truth. There’s a reason why most of the world takes the side of the Democrats and people against Donald Trump, because when you’re outside looking in and don’t have a horse in the race, you look at the facts and go “oh, yeah, that guy’s a lying piece of shit.” ... More news today: www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49842895And that’s just the one we know about. There’s bound to be more.
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Post by KING KID on Sept 26, 2019 21:29:01 GMT
I never post or talk about politics and I don’t really care either way but since this was on my Twitter feed yesterday, I followed the story a bit. What astonishes me is how two different people (or sides) can read the exact same document word for word and come to the totally opposite conclusion. People are either saying the memo makes him totally guilty or they are saying the memo completely exonerates him of any wrong doing. I don’t really understand how that’s possible but I guess it’s more complicated than that. It’s pretty easy, actually. Americans view politics the same way they view team sports. They will believe whatever their side is telling them just because they don’t like the other side, regardless of who’s telling the truth. There’s a reason why most of the world takes the side of the Democrats and people against Donald Trump, because when you’re outside looking in and don’t have a horse in the race, you look at the facts and go “oh, yeah, that guy’s a lying piece of shit.” ... More news today: www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49842895And that’s just the one we know about. There’s bound to be more. Most people who like Democrats just like them because they say the word “legal” a lot and push for “making money doing nothing.” Sounds great for a teenager but once you’re out in the real world working like a man; you grow to appreciate the Republican idea of America.
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Post by RT on Sept 26, 2019 22:04:57 GMT
It’s pretty easy, actually. Americans view politics the same way they view team sports. They will believe whatever their side is telling them just because they don’t like the other side, regardless of who’s telling the truth. There’s a reason why most of the world takes the side of the Democrats and people against Donald Trump, because when you’re outside looking in and don’t have a horse in the race, you look at the facts and go “oh, yeah, that guy’s a lying piece of shit.” ... More news today: www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49842895And that’s just the one we know about. There’s bound to be more. Most people who like Democrats just like them because they say the word “legal” a lot and push for “making money doing nothing.” Sounds great for a teenager but once you’re out in the real world working like a man; you grow to appreciate the Republican idea of America. Tax breaks for the rich and no healthcare?
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Post by thereallt on Sept 26, 2019 22:07:38 GMT
I never post or talk about politics and I don’t really care either way but since this was on my Twitter feed yesterday, I followed the story a bit. What astonishes me is how two different people (or sides) can read the exact same document word for word and come to the totally opposite conclusion. People are either saying the memo makes him totally guilty or they are saying the memo completely exonerates him of any wrong doing. I don’t really understand how that’s possible but I guess it’s more complicated than that. It’s pretty easy, actually. Americans view politics the same way they view team sports. They will believe whatever their side is telling them just because they don’t like the other side, regardless of who’s telling the truth. There’s a reason why most of the world takes the side of the Democrats and people against Donald Trump, because when you’re outside looking in and don’t have a horse in the race, you look at the facts and go “oh, yeah, that guy’s a lying piece of shit.” ... More news today: www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49842895And that’s just the one we know about. There’s bound to be more. Being a lying piece of shit isn't an impeachable offense. If it was no president would ever survive even one term. Lets see what an actual SANE Democrat has to say about this.
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Post by iNCY on Sept 26, 2019 22:36:22 GMT
Most people who like Democrats just like them because they say the word “legal” a lot and push for “making money doing nothing.” Sounds great for a teenager but once you’re out in the real world working like a man; you grow to appreciate the Republican idea of America. Tax breaks for the rich and no healthcare? The older I get the more conservative I get While I whole heartedly support public health and education as well as a safety net... I cannot help but be annoyed by the number of people putting their hand out for government assistance but aren't willing to help themselves at all. It's not societies job to compensate people for their lack of ambition or poor lifestyle choices.
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Post by KING KID on Sept 26, 2019 22:42:26 GMT
Exactly iNCY. And believe me, I made some poor lifestyle choices in my teen years but I still went and got a good job and have exceeded norms in it.
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Post by RT on Sept 26, 2019 22:56:41 GMT
I can’t speak to Australia and the US but up here the numbers of people on social assistance don’t magically spike every time the liberal party wins an election.
So because people collect social assistance you’re more conservative because you don’t agree with it? That doesn’t make sense to me. Those people don’t magically go away when the republicans win.
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Post by iNCY on Sept 26, 2019 23:06:05 GMT
I can’t speak to Australia and the US but up here the numbers of people on social assistance don’t magically spike every time the liberal party wins an election. So because people collect social assistance you’re more conservative because you don’t agree with it? That doesn’t make sense to me. Those people don’t magically go away when the republicans win. I agree completely, but the systems of welfare always increase under left leaning governments and are hard to wind back. Obamacare was a shambles and it was passed for the sake of passing something, I have no problem with socialised medicine but it must be single payer. The question I always reflect on is equality a matter of equal opportunity or equal outcomes.. The latter being impossible.
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Post by KING KID on Sept 26, 2019 23:08:31 GMT
Welfare has dropped drastically under Trump. That’s a fact.
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Post by KITN on Sept 27, 2019 3:51:28 GMT
I mean, you've got the President of the United States telling a foreign power to give him information on a political opponent and interfere in the election (which is definitely a crime) or he'll withhold aid (which is extortion and coercion, which are, you guessed it, also crimes.)
Not to mention all the money Trump has made enriching himself by constantly having foreign leaders dignitaries and even the Vice President of the United States stay at his shitty properties, which is also super duper illegal. And that's just the recent shit off the top of my head. I could go back and list all the accusations and self-admittance of sexual assault and harassment throughout his life, and all the times he never paid people for work, and the specific instances of inciting violence and encouraging it, the transphobia and homophobia rampant in his Administration and its actions, the dangerous deregulation and underfunding of important areas while we are literally cooking to death, and the time he and his father bullied his older brother into drinking himself to death... but I've got shit to do with the rest of my life.
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Post by iNCY on Sept 27, 2019 5:51:41 GMT
I mean, you've got the President of the United States telling a foreign power to give him information on a political opponent and interfere in the election (which is definitely a crime) or he'll withhold aid (which is extortion and coercion, which are, you guessed it, also crimes.) Not to mention all the money Trump has made enriching himself by constantly having foreign leaders dignitaries and even the Vice President of the United States stay at his shitty properties, which is also super duper illegal. And that's just the recent shit off the top of my head. I could go back and list all the accusations and self-admittance of sexual assault and harassment throughout his life, and all the times he never paid people for work, and the specific instances of inciting violence and encouraging it, the transphobia and homophobia rampant in his Administration and its actions, the dangerous deregulation and underfunding of important areas while we are literally cooking to death, and the time he and his father bullied his older brother into drinking himself to death... but I've got shit to do with the rest of my life. Except he hasn't broken any laws, despite your assertion otherwise and he didn't make any sort of offense that wod be classed as quid pro quo. This is the case no matter how loud the squad screeches. I have also stayed at his properties several times, definitely not shitty. And he has followed the law and divested himself of control of his assets. Now... Let me ask... Does anything about the Biden issue alarm you? Do you think Hillary should have ended up in jail?
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Post by KITN on Sept 27, 2019 6:58:27 GMT
I'm going to ignore your whataboutism and say that no, absolutely not, Don hasn't divested himself from a goddamn thing. Passing control of his companies to his children is NOT divesting himself. The Republican party demanded that Jimmy Carter divested himself from his goddamn family Peanut company when he was President and he did, completely. Speaking of Jimmy Carter, fun fact, he's almost a hundred years old and he's building fucking HOUSES even after getting hip replacement surgery. Meanwhile, I'm pretty sure Donnie boy hasn't done a day of honest work in his life and gets winded at the thought of climbing more than two stairs.
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Post by iNCY on Sept 27, 2019 8:12:23 GMT
I'm going to ignore your whataboutism and say that no, absolutely not, Don hasn't divested himself from a goddamn thing. Passing control of his companies to his children is NOT divesting himself. The Republican party demanded that Jimmy Carter divested himself from his goddamn family Peanut company when he was President and he did, completely. Speaking of Jimmy Carter, fun fact, he's almost a hundred years old and he's building fucking HOUSES even after getting hip replacement surgery. Meanwhile, I'm pretty sure Donnie boy hasn't done a day of honest work in his life and gets winded at the thought of climbing more than two stairs. You're not answering because it's inconvenient? For the record Carter and Trump both placed their assets in blind trusts. I don't like Trump much at all, but still haven't seen anything impeachable... Not that there has to be, but if all this hysteria leads to impeachment it is going to damage politics in the USA forever.
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Post by mikec on Sept 27, 2019 10:59:08 GMT
President Trump doesn’t have a blind trust. He resigned power to his children, but still receives updates. It is pretty naive to assume he doesn’t have any input when it’s his kids making decisions.
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Post by thereallt on Sept 27, 2019 12:12:16 GMT
I'm going to ignore your whataboutism and say that no, absolutely not, Don hasn't divested himself from a goddamn thing. Passing control of his companies to his children is NOT divesting himself. The Republican party demanded that Jimmy Carter divested himself from his goddamn family Peanut company when he was President and he did, completely. Speaking of Jimmy Carter, fun fact, he's almost a hundred years old and he's building fucking HOUSES even after getting hip replacement surgery. Meanwhile, I'm pretty sure Donnie boy hasn't done a day of honest work in his life and gets winded at the thought of climbing more than two stairs. Good that Carter is doing something productive now because he was the drizzling shits as President.
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Post by KING KID on Sept 27, 2019 12:57:20 GMT
Love KITN ignoring the question about Biden and Hilary. Lmao.
There is literally nothing Trump has done that is worse the. What Hillary did with those emails and Benghazi. Fuck outta here with this bullshit.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2019 13:02:24 GMT
Dammit Kid if you only ended that post mentioning the Clinton Foundation I woulda had a bingo.
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Post by Zoinks McJinkies on Sept 27, 2019 20:45:38 GMT
I'm honestly surprised it took 2 pages to reach a "BUT DUH EMAILS" post.
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Post by KING KID on Sept 27, 2019 21:33:38 GMT
Oh. So you guys can continuously harp on Trumps past but when Hillary gets mentioned it becomes “OHMAHGERD GET OVER IT!” Lmao. You libs are truly something else.
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Post by c on Sept 27, 2019 21:51:35 GMT
Trump does not need to fear Pelosi. He needs to fear Romney. There is a bloc of about 9 now voting against many of Trump's things and if they can get that number to close to 20 they can impeach. Only 11 more to flip, and given many just tolerate him and may prefer Pence, there is a chance they red redding his ass at the impeachment and claim a return to Reagan ideals under Pence and Romney. I think Romney sees a path to the White House finally and is ready to take it.
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Post by c on Sept 27, 2019 22:05:35 GMT
Also do not get the Biden stuff since he will not be the Dem's candidate. Bernie and Warren have near identical platforms, so when one drops out, their supports will go to the other candidate and they become VP most likely as in 2016. If combined they have over 50 percent support from voters, Biden does not get to run for president. Only path he has is neither drop out and they split the socialist vote.
I see Roberts being who sinks Trump in the end. Mitch will try to manipulate the trial and I see Roberts lashing out at partisan problems hindering justice and leading to anti-Supreme Court tweets. I just cannot see Robert's going along with the tea party and staying silent while they manipulate senate rules to present an unclear argument.
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Post by c on Sept 27, 2019 22:08:36 GMT
Oh. So you guys can continuously harp on Trumps past but when Hillary gets mentioned it becomes “OHMAHGERD GET OVER IT!” Lmao. You libs are truly something else. Hillary is not the president and now out of official politics. What is the point in going after her more now? Also what does she have to do with what is going on right now?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2019 22:11:02 GMT
Oh. So you guys can continuously harp on Trumps past but when Hillary gets mentioned it becomes “OHMAHGERD GET OVER IT!” Lmao. You libs are truly something else. Hillary is not the president and now out of official politics. What is the point in going after her more now? Also what does she have to do with what is going on right now? When you think about it, without the e-mails she'd be president. So all the Trump shit is kinda her fault. Really should put her on trial for this whole ordeal.
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Post by c on Sept 27, 2019 22:12:47 GMT
That is a good point...
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Post by KING KID on Sept 27, 2019 22:26:15 GMT
The emails weren’t why she lost. That’s a myth.
Trump was going to beat her no matter what. Just like he’s going to beat 2020.
And Hillary was involved in the government for how many decades? She’s done so much illegal shit in office then Trump has done out of office. So we should just forgive her because.... she left office? Come on. That’s dumb shit.
The Biden stuff is a big deal, but you libbies ignore it and pretend you don’t get it. Like “oh I just don’t understand how everywhere Joe went; his son got a powerful, high paying position with no experience?!” Or “yeah so Biden admitted to getting someone fired for going after his son but what’s the issue?! Trumps doing it now!”
It’s a joke. The left is an embarrassing joke.
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