I was kind of looking forward to returning to PW. Now I see Kid is just doing a poor mans Merle tribute act.

Sept 26, 2019 6:11:14 GMT iNCY said:

It's odd that the actual complaint about Hunter Biden gets no coverage.
After Biden bragged about it.
How can you let Hillary off and go after Trump?

Because that's pretty much the exact opposite of what happened.

The things that are true are that Hunter Biden did get a job at the natural gas company -- most likely due to his last name rather than his own merits -- and that Biden did use the threat of holding back aid to help get prosecutor Viktor Shokin fired.

What the video got wrong -- and the creator of the video *KNOWS THAT AND IS LYING TO YOU* -- is that the powers that be didn't want him fired because he was investigating the gas company, they wanted him out because he wasn't doing a goddamn thing. Shokin had been sitting on the case for a year, Biden was working under the orders of the US gov't (with support from other world leaders who were also sick of this dude doing nothing), and when Shokin got called out for slacking he told everyone he was totally getting around to it and was going to start interviewing people next week, he swears. The replacement prosecutor did investigate the gas company, so if Joe tried to kill the case he did a really really shitty job at it.

Sept 26, 2019 3:51:41 GMT iNCY said:

Sept 26, 2019 2:07:14 GMT Michinokudriver said:

[first point] I think it comes down to a difference of opinion re: how vigorously we should go after illegal immigrants. To me it's more of a victimless crime -- going after illegal immigrants for being illegal immigrants is like going after jaywalkers or jerkass bicyclists who run through stop signs. Like, we've got crazy people planning to kill regular people they're convinced are robots wearing human flesh, you've got car break-ins at ridiculously high numbers, but aggressively pursuing jaywalkers is where you want to put your manpower?

[second point] Agreed on Border Patrol being starved for resources. The hard left voted against the bill mostly because they did not believe the extra monies would go towards relieving conditions but rather to detention managers' bonuses, which... eh, I dunno about that one.

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I couldn't disagree with you more, illegal immigration is a literal cancer on society, they consume resources and pay no tax. 
There is one argument for increasing immigration, but let it be through the front door where we audit and take the best and brightest. 
But for it being like jaywalking... When someone jaywalks their kids are not at school diverting resources away from your kids. 

The only way to stop illegal immigration is to make it ugly enough to deter people. 
All of these people who are anti ICE probably don't have communities where resources are being siphoned away. 

The idea that sovereign borders are racist is crap as. 

In the States, if they get jobs that are anything bigger than day laborers standing on the corner (read: McDonald's employee, maybe some landscaping jobs depending on the company) they need forged documents and that means they are paying taxes, since they are taken out by the gov't before you see your paycheck.

I never said the idea of sovereign borders are racist necessarily. But stateside, many of those who are up in arms against illegal immigration usually aren't speaking out about the French nationals who overstay their visas, y'know?

Sept 27, 2019 23:05:53 GMT Zoinks McJinkies said:

I was kind of looking forward to returning to PW. Now I see Kid is just doing a poor mans Merle tribute act.

Good comeback. 

But hey man; you can leave and go back to your little safe space. 

And two wrongs make a right, right?

People realize that almost no immigrants here illegally would dare sign up for benefits as one of the things you need to prove is citizenship right? Applying for benefits is basically giving ICE a place to visit. So get that myth right the fuck out here. Most people on benefits in the US are Trump supporters in impoverished areas dealing with the meth epidemic.

Two wrongs don’t make a right BUT going after Trump for hearsay is straight bullshit and the definition of a witch-hunt.

The shit Biden and Clinton have done is not hearsay. It’s in your face. Joe Biden admits to doing what they’re attacking Trump for “doing” and admits to it to applause on camera. Fuck out of here with that hairy lady armpit bullshit.

Sept 28, 2019 1:09:43 GMT c said:

People realize that almost no immigrants here illegally would dare sign up for benefits as one of the things you need to prove is citizenship right? Applying for benefits is basically giving ICE a place to visit. So get that myth right the fuck out here. Most people on benefits in the US are Trump supporters in impoverished areas dealing with the meth epidemic.

That’s so not true. 

Do you know MAJORITY of hospital visits in NYC are patients on Medicaid AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Mostly drunks. 

Do you know how nursing homes homes in NYC work? Or how assisted living for adults work? Do you know the straight ABUSE these people on welfare give to society and taxes?

How many times a week a single “psychiatric” patient goes to the ER just because? 4-5 times a week! That’s one person who then needs transportation back. That’s 8-10 ambulance rides a person a week that tax payers are paying for. 

The amount of INTOX illegal immigrants (mostly from Mexico) get transported to emergency rooms with no photo ID, insurance card a day for free?

You have no idea what you are talking about. Abuse of health insurance and welfare is rampant in NYC. Want to know why? Because it’s run by the left.



Don’t come into the kitchen with a plastic spork when you want to start cutting steak with me. 

As long as we're at it, abolish ICE.

Sept 28, 2019 3:46:25 GMT KITN said:

As long as we're at it, abolish ICE.

Why?  Because they are actually doing their jobs and enforcing the law?   Oh no we can't have that.

What really needs to be abolished are these bullshit sanctuary cities.      

Two wrongs don’t make a right BUT going after Trump for hearsay is straight bullshit and the definition of a witch-hunt.

Even worse, Adam Schiff went in front of Congress and told a COMPLETELY fabricated version of what the transcript said. Then he tried to say it was only a "parody". Bullshit. Schiff was trying to shape a false narrative and got caught.

Sad part is I don't even like Trump that much. But what the Dems are doing right now is an absolute mockery. They have been trying to relitigate the 2016 election even before Trump was even sworn in.

Since it was founded NYC always had free public hospitals. Not sure why immigrants using them is a problem now. It is literally law in NYC that anyone can safely use the hospital and has been for decades and people who support this type of healthcare are routinely elected into office.  Do not see the problem here.  Also here it would not matter if people are using this service, since elected officials say these are services for illegal immigrants as well.  

Also funny seeing people recite the press talking points nearly word for word. Either Trump did it or did not. Not he did not do it, but even if he did it was a misheard report that is also hearsay that needed to be done because of corruption in the Ukraine and Hillary and a matter of national security that was revealed due to illegal spying that was then fabricated by the liberal media that should not be discussed because of classified information.

God I am gonna love watching Romney rip the GOP apart after the next election.

Sept 27, 2019 23:37:10 GMT KING KID said:

Sept 27, 2019 23:05:53 GMT Zoinks McJinkies said:

I was kind of looking forward to returning to PW. Now I see Kid is just doing a poor mans Merle tribute act.

Good comeback. 

But hey man; you can leave and go back to your little safe space. 

Man you're really just trying to go for Boomber Bingo aren't you?

Every few months, I come back and argue politics with people who think they know what they are talking about. I allow myself to get passionate and pissed with the left. Then I tell myself that I’m done talking politics with people who live in a glass box and know nothing.

So rinse and repeat. I’m done talking politics with people who have no argument about anything or false narratives.

You can't run away! You haven't managed to trigger the libs yet! What would Ben Shapiro say?!

Sept 28, 2019 2:33:55 GMT KING KID said:

Two wrongs don’t make a right BUT going after Trump for hearsay is straight bullshit and the definition of a witch-hunt.

The shit Biden and Clinton have done is not hearsay. It’s in your face. Joe Biden admits to doing what they’re attacking Trump for “doing” and admits to it to applause on camera. Fuck out of here with that hairy lady armpit bullshit.

I feel ignored.

Posed links upstream, but basically comparing Biden to Trump in this instance is like some BLM asshat comparing police shootings. There was a cop, the trigger was pulled, a bullet left the gun and now someone is dead. WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED TO KNOW, THEY'RE THE SAME. Except, of course, that they're not and one would have to look at the circumstances, but mentioning that gets you called a shill who's nitpicking at the details to muddy the waters, you shill.

But anyway

Viktor Shokin; the prosecutor who got fired: He had promised to root out corruption in his country but actually had been sitting on his ass stalling investigations, which is where the US and the international community came in. Biden, in his role as VP, under instruction from the United States government, came into Ukraine and demanded he be outsted. He did this knowing he would be getting rid of the dude protecting the company his son was on the board of. Isn't this what you would want?

Trump's call with Ukranian President Zelensky: You can read the memo here. He starts by bringing up how much aid the United States has given Ukraine. He then sidetracks a bit into a conspiracy theory involving DNC hackings before saying he would like the Ukranian government to work with his personal lawyer to investigate specifically his (current) top challenger for the 2020 Presidency. It is, effectively, exactly what Trump accused Obama of doing when he said Barack wiretapped Trump Tower -- using the resources of the United States government to dig up dirt on a political rival.

FWIW I do think that gas company hiring Hunter Biden was swampy as hell but that could be its own post and this one is gonna be too long as it is.

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Because I forgot to post this response earlier, thereallt 's post about Tulsi Gabbard: I agree, though I don't think she's saying quite what the right wing hopes she's saying. At this point, three years into the Trump presidency, the Dems/the left have cried wolf far too many times re: Trump and impeachment. Even if this time it really is actionable and impeachable, it no longer matters. Good luck getting anyone to pay attention anymore; you say "this time for sure we'll impeach Trump" and everyone's eyes glaze over. Don't focus on lawyering and using the courts to get Trump outta office, we're close enough to 2020 where the smart play is to keep it and add it to your campaign war chest and when it's election time ask the people directly: Is this how you expect your President to act? Are these things you want your elected officials to be doing? If not, then maybe don't vote for him.

Haven't seen the Schiff bit yet so I'll reserve judgment til I do.

Sept 28, 2019 2:39:54 GMT KING KID said:

Sept 28, 2019 1:09:43 GMT c said:

People realize that almost no immigrants here illegally would dare sign up for benefits as one of the things you need to prove is citizenship right? Applying for benefits is basically giving ICE a place to visit. So get that myth right the fuck out here. Most people on benefits in the US are Trump supporters in impoverished areas dealing with the meth epidemic.

That’s so not true. 

Do you know MAJORITY of hospital visits in NYC are patients on Medicaid AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Mostly drunks. 

Do you know how nursing homes homes in NYC work? Or how assisted living for adults work? Do you know the straight ABUSE these people on welfare give to society and taxes?

How many times a week a single “psychiatric” patient goes to the ER just because? 4-5 times a week! That’s one person who then needs transportation back. That’s 8-10 ambulance rides a person a week that tax payers are paying for. 

The amount of INTOX illegal immigrants (mostly from Mexico) get transported to emergency rooms with no photo ID, insurance card a day for free?

You have no idea what you are talking about. Abuse of health insurance and welfare is rampant in NYC. Want to know why? Because it’s run by the left.



Don’t come into the kitchen with a plastic spork when you want to start cutting steak with me. 

You start by talking about illegal immigration draining resources, then go on to talk about nursing homes and psychiatric patients and drunk people (who may or may not be from south of the border). Lots of people use ambulances as taxis, and many of them are true-blue American citizens and not those pesky illegals.

Sept 28, 2019 1:09:43 GMT c said:

People realize that almost no immigrants here illegally would dare sign up for benefits as one of the things you need to prove is citizenship right? Applying for benefits is basically giving ICE a place to visit. So get that myth right the fuck out here. Most people on benefits in the US are Trump supporters in impoverished areas dealing with the meth epidemic.

Sept 28, 2019 5:25:58 GMT c said:

Since it was founded NYC always had free public hospitals. Not sure why immigrants using them is a problem now. It is literally law in NYC that anyone can safely use the hospital and has been for decades and people who support this type of healthcare are routinely elected into office.  Do not see the problem here.  Also here it would not matter if people are using this service, since elected officials say these are services for illegal immigrants as well.  

Also funny seeing people recite the press talking points nearly word for word. Either Trump did it or did not. Not he did not do it, but even if he did it was a misheard report that is also hearsay that needed to be done because of corruption in the Ukraine and Hillary and a matter of national security that was revealed due to illegal spying that was then fabricated by the liberal media that should not be discussed because of classified information.

God I am gonna love watching Romney rip the GOP apart after the next election.

There is no such thing as free health care someone is paying. In this case we know that 100% of illegal immigrants are not contributing. 
This is the welfare I am speaking of, their kids are using resources in the schools they are utilising the services that they don't pay for. 


There is no argument that can be made for supporting protection of illegal immigration. If you want the immigration, fine but let it be through the books. I would 100% pass the law that no illegal immigrant can ever have permanent residency in the USA.
There is a large risk of criminals or even terrorists

If I gave you a box of 50 chocolates and told one of them had shit in it... How many would you eat? 

Sept 29, 2019 9:32:38 GMT iNCY said:

Sept 28, 2019 1:09:43 GMT c said:

People realize that almost no immigrants here illegally would dare sign up for benefits as one of the things you need to prove is citizenship right? Applying for benefits is basically giving ICE a place to visit. So get that myth right the fuck out here. Most people on benefits in the US are Trump supporters in impoverished areas dealing with the meth epidemic.

Sept 28, 2019 5:25:58 GMT c said:

Since it was founded NYC always had free public hospitals. Not sure why immigrants using them is a problem now. It is literally law in NYC that anyone can safely use the hospital and has been for decades and people who support this type of healthcare are routinely elected into office.  Do not see the problem here.  Also here it would not matter if people are using this service, since elected officials say these are services for illegal immigrants as well.  

Also funny seeing people recite the press talking points nearly word for word. Either Trump did it or did not. Not he did not do it, but even if he did it was a misheard report that is also hearsay that needed to be done because of corruption in the Ukraine and Hillary and a matter of national security that was revealed due to illegal spying that was then fabricated by the liberal media that should not be discussed because of classified information.

God I am gonna love watching Romney rip the GOP apart after the next election.

There is no such thing as free health care someone is paying. In this case we know that 100% of illegal immigrants are not contributing. 
This is the welfare I am speaking of, their kids are using resources in the schools they are utilising the services that they don't pay for. 


There is no argument that can be made for supporting protection of illegal immigration. If you want the immigration, fine but let it be through the books. I would 100% pass the law that no illegal immigrant can ever have permanent residency in the USA.
There is a large risk of criminals or even terrorists

If I gave you a box of 50 chocolates and told one of them had shit in it... How many would you eat? 

You're right, there is a large risk of criminals and terrorists in america. Tell me again, how many of those shootings and terrorist attacks this year were by an immigrant and not by a white, right leaning american?

Sept 29, 2019 9:49:51 GMT Zoinks McJinkies said:

Sept 29, 2019 9:32:38 GMT iNCY said:

There is no such thing as free health care someone is paying. In this case we know that 100% of illegal immigrants are not contributing. 
This is the welfare I am speaking of, their kids are using resources in the schools they are utilising the services that they don't pay for. 


There is no argument that can be made for supporting protection of illegal immigration. If you want the immigration, fine but let it be through the books. I would 100% pass the law that no illegal immigrant can ever have permanent residency in the USA.
There is a large risk of criminals or even terrorists

If I gave you a box of 50 chocolates and told one of them had shit in it... How many would you eat? 

You're right, there is a large risk of criminals and terrorists in america. Tell me again, how many of those shootings and terrorist attacks this year were by an immigrant and not by a white, right leaning american?

There are a lot more people are killed in armed robbery and general murders than there are in mass shootings
Not that immigrants are over represented in the numbers, you just have a a right and responsibility as a nation to ensure the people you bring in are the best possible. 

All I'm saying is maybe you should be more concerned with the pieces of shit you already have. Because I guarantee it's more than one in Fifty.

Sept 29, 2019 11:16:24 GMT Zoinks McJinkies said:

All I'm saying is maybe you should be more concerned with the pieces of shit you already have. Because I guarantee it's more than one in Fifty.

In my country practically all of the terrorism events were perpetrated by second generation Muslim immigrants... So yeah illegal VS legal isn't really helpful in defining danger, but perhaps it is an indicator that the character of the people you import is important. 

Sept 29, 2019 12:17:07 GMT iNCY said:

Sept 29, 2019 11:16:24 GMT Zoinks McJinkies said:

All I'm saying is maybe you should be more concerned with the pieces of shit you already have. Because I guarantee it's more than one in Fifty.

In my country practically all of the terrorism events were perpetrated by second generation Muslim immigrants... So yeah illegal VS legal isn't really helpful in defining danger, but perhaps it is an indicator that the character of the people you import is important. 

Just to clarify, what are you classing as a terrorist attack? Are you saying stuff like the El Paso Wal-Mart being shot up killing 20+ people isn't terror? Or the attack on Planned Parenthood from a couple years ago? 

So falcone; what do you wish you were born as? A black man? A Hispanic? A lizard? You fucking moron. Most deaths happen by gang violence and drugs in America and most of the time it’s colored people who don’t give a fuck about left and right you uneducated moron.

Stop talking out your ass and step out of your bubble. You make it seem like being gay and white makes you different then a white male but you’re still a white male no matter your sexual preference. Stop falling for the lefty victim bullshit because being gay makes you a minority in your mind.

Oh you're right. Here I thought I was just a decent person who doesn't like blatant, thinly veiled racism. Little did I know that the fact I enjoy cock was clouding my mind. Thanks for enlightening me you Waste of fucking oxygen.

Sept 29, 2019 9:49:51 GMT Zoinks McJinkies said:

Sept 29, 2019 9:32:38 GMT iNCY said:

There is no such thing as free health care someone is paying. In this case we know that 100% of illegal immigrants are not contributing. 
This is the welfare I am speaking of, their kids are using resources in the schools they are utilising the services that they don't pay for. 


There is no argument that can be made for supporting protection of illegal immigration. If you want the immigration, fine but let it be through the books. I would 100% pass the law that no illegal immigrant can ever have permanent residency in the USA.
There is a large risk of criminals or even terrorists

If I gave you a box of 50 chocolates and told one of them had shit in it... How many would you eat? 

You're right, there is a large risk of criminals and terrorists in america. Tell me again, how many of those shootings and terrorist attacks this year were by an immigrant and not by a white, right leaning american?

Now let me ask you, how many gang related shootings were committed by an illegal?

Sept 29, 2019 11:16:24 GMT Zoinks McJinkies said:

All I'm saying is maybe you should be more concerned with the pieces of shit you already have. Because I guarantee it's more than one in Fifty.

All the more reason not let more pieces of shit in.

Sept 30, 2019 21:12:59 GMT thereallt said:

Sept 29, 2019 9:49:51 GMT Zoinks McJinkies said:

You're right, there is a large risk of criminals and terrorists in america. Tell me again, how many of those shootings and terrorist attacks this year were by an immigrant and not by a white, right leaning american?

Now let me ask you, how many gang related shootings were committed by an illegal?

Probably a few. Because illegals tend to end up in gangs and shoot eachother, rather than do things like a good, legal citizen, and shoot random people in a Wal Mart.

Sept 30, 2019 20:29:59 GMT Zoinks McJinkies said:

Oh you're right. Here I thought I was just a decent person who doesn't like blatant, thinly veiled racism. Little did I know that the fact I enjoy cock was clouding my mind. Thanks for enlightening me you Waste of fucking oxygen.

Blatant, thinly veiled racism?

You mean like you saying “white right leaning....” to describe someone? Do you even know what racism is? 

And gangs don't just kill gang members. You see the innocent kid who got killed in the Bronx by Trinitaros gang or whatever they’re called? 

What do you even know about gangs? Lmao. 

No, you sit back and shut the fuck up. You lost any right to talk to me when you decided to drag my personal life into this for no good reason you piece of shit.