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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2017 20:04:24 GMT
He can't wrestle, but he's more over than everyone on 205 Live combined. He got me to care because I actually watched the show last night. They finally did something right. Instead of ignoring the way people feel about him despite the merch, they embraced it. I love Enzo and anyone who doesn't... well there's only one word to describe you, but I'm not gonna spell it out for ya because I don't pander to hatahs.
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Post by Ed on Sept 27, 2017 23:32:48 GMT
I wanna see Drew Gulax stretch out Enzo like a pretzel and start a campaign for a better cruiserweight division.
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Post by Emperor on Sept 27, 2017 23:41:40 GMT
I don't love Enzo in general, but his match with Neville and the follow-up segment on Raw are the two best things he's ever done. He's won me over. When Cass turned on him, he buried his character so much with his promo that I thought Enzo would be an undercard irrelevancy forever. But Enzo took what Cass said, the whole unlikeability of his character, and turned it into magic. He didn't do it right away, either. It was a fairly slow burn. Good work.
Time to enter kayfabe. Enzo is a dick. Neville is still the king in every way but holding the gold. I hope Neville kicks his ass and takes back the gold.
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Post by LS on Sept 28, 2017 1:41:41 GMT
The Enzo/Cass team was really amusing in its early days of NXT. The main roster took away their special appeal. Instead of creative backstage skits and interviews, they just sent them out to the ring with a mic each week with no substance to the promos.
I think Raw's segment was the step in the right direction in evolving Enzo's character now that he's done with Cass - the first correct step they've made with Enzo on the main roster in my opinion. Interested in seeing where it goes.
I read the 205 Live results and will have to check the Enzo stuff out because it sounds like they did a good job advancing the story. Disappointed that Neville is turning face - though it sounds like he's keeping his heel edge. Hopefully he goes back to being a heel when he's done with Enzo because his star quality made a complete 180 in the right direction when he became a heel.
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Post by Huge Y2J Fan on Sept 28, 2017 3:48:54 GMT
Enzo as a heel is tolerable for now. Since Neville lost his title shot, I won't be surprised if he plays a face for now, gets someone to beat Enzo, then turns on that guy to get the title back.
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Post by X-zero on Sept 28, 2017 5:01:26 GMT
Hated Enzo since he came to Raw. But now as a heel he should be a good one. Since I hate him in a way were it doesn't want me to stop watching but I want to watch people beat him up. So I guess good job, WWE.
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Post by System on Sept 28, 2017 7:24:04 GMT
I don’t really see how it was a heel turn, just seems like he is going be an Eddie Guerrero cheat to win type. But everyone else was saying it was a turn, so I guess I just find him likeable (or we got a cup of haters)
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Post by Emperor on Sept 28, 2017 9:05:25 GMT
It wasn't clear if it was a full heel turn when he kicked Neville in the nuts, but come Monday night Raw when he talks trash like he's the best wrestler ever, runs down the cruiserweight roster name by name, and taunts Neville (with a no contact clause), yeah, that's definitely a full blown heel.
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Post by NATH45 on Sept 28, 2017 11:02:56 GMT
Absolutely hate this guy, yet that's the point, right? I find Enzo so obnoxious to the point of him being so unbelievably despicable. Everything about this guy, I hate. So in saying that, he's perfect, he'll make a career out of people wanting to see the shit kicked out of him.
The best part of the beatdown, was Enzo no selling the knee from Nese, and looking almost directly at the camera, realizing how despised he is.
Listening to Enzo speak however, evokes memories of the famous speech from Billy Madison.. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2017 11:09:10 GMT
The line between face and heel is so thin it is hard to call a full turn. Faces running down others on the mic is the norm. Using the cane on Neville after a win is heelish but you could call it payback for attacking him on Monday. Enzo is acting about the same.
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Post by 🤯 on Sept 28, 2017 19:04:49 GMT
I eventually want a heel Enzo/face Braun reverse David & Goliath feud.
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Post by UT on Sept 28, 2017 19:09:22 GMT
I eventually want a heel Enzo/face Braun reverse David & Goliath feud. I seen a Facebook clip where Braun came out and destroyed Enzo last night after 205 Live - so that's at least a start for you.
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Post by Krysys on Sept 28, 2017 20:49:27 GMT
Did Enzo actually turn heel? He's doing the exact same thing he's been doing. The only difference is he shit on the whole 205 Live roster
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Post by Ed on Sept 28, 2017 23:22:42 GMT
Even I find Enzo so unlikeable now but I wonder if he didn't have so much heat with the rest of the roster if he would be positioned as a heel. He's been over for a long time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 11:43:21 GMT
This week proves none of the current CWs can face Enzo, but man they could really do something interesting with new debuts facing him. Sadly they wasted the first go on Kalisto.
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Post by KITN on Oct 4, 2017 7:24:51 GMT
This week proves none of the current CWs can face Enzo, but man they could really do something interesting with new debuts facing him. Sadly they wasted the first go on Kalisto. I don't see how that's a waste. People wanted Kalisto in the cruiserweight division in the first place and he's one of the best Cruiserweight-style wrestlers in the world (until WWE fucked up all his momentum, as they are wont to do, like they're already immediately doing with Gran Metalik).
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Post by NATH45 on Oct 4, 2017 11:36:40 GMT
I will state that the cruiserweight division is in big trouble. The problem is, Enzo is the division's biggest star - yet can't wrestle. Neville is on paper, is the best worker in the division, yet isn't exactly a Rey Mysterio type, he's not a draw. While the rest of the division are hardly worth mentioning.
Scrap the division. Flood the Tag Team divisions with new teams. Neville could easily go to Smackdown and be a player, Enzo floats around talking shit until he eventually hurts him so bad, he can't work again. Done, move on.
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Post by Ed on Oct 5, 2017 18:57:05 GMT
Enzo would be a great manager. Too bad WWE doesn't care about managers.
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