Q current in the mythos is Jack Kennedy Jr, who faked his own death to go into deep cover. He is working with Trump at the White House in a top secret role in leading the hunt for the pedophile cannibals. The person posting as Q is believed to be Jim Watkins, the founder of 8chan where the conspiracy started. I mean it is kind of obvious, he wears a Q pin and runs the QAnon super PAC. Also 8chan is the home of the FAR right.  Since Q is idenitifed by 8chan tripcode, it would be easy for him to set the server to give his posts this code since he is also the server admin.

Here is the pic of him before he testified before congress:

Aug 31, 2020 6:08:50 GMT c said:

Q current in the mythos is Jack Kennedy Jr, who faked his own death to go into deep cover. He is working with Trump at the White House in a top secret role in leading the hunt for the pedophile cannibals.

That is incredible. I know what my next Shadowrun game is about.

Aug 31, 2020 6:19:35 GMT Gyro LC said:

Aug 31, 2020 6:08:50 GMT c said:

Q current in the mythos is Jack Kennedy Jr, who faked his own death to go into deep cover. He is working with Trump at the White House in a top secret role in leading the hunt for the pedophile cannibals.

That is incredible. I know what my next Shadowrun game is about.

I so wish Cyberpunk2077 was Shadowrun instead   Shadowrun is my fav RPG world after World of Darkness.


This is hilarious.  The US Consumer Product Safety Commission is taking on the bird meme and shit posting.

Aug 31, 2020 6:27:35 GMT c said:

Aug 31, 2020 6:19:35 GMT Gyro LC said:

That is incredible. I know what my next Shadowrun game is about.

I so wish Cyberpunk2077 was Shadowrun instead   Shadowrun is my fav RPG world after World of Darkness.


This is hilarious.  The US Consumer Product Safety Commission is taking on the bird meme and shit posting.

I would have preferred a Shadowrun game too, but I'm still stoked about Cyberpunk 2077.

Aug 31, 2020 6:32:28 GMT thereallt said:

Aug 31, 2020 6:27:35 GMT c said:

I so wish Cyberpunk2077 was Shadowrun instead   Shadowrun is my fav RPG world after World of Darkness.


This is hilarious.  The US Consumer Product Safety Commission is taking on the bird meme and shit posting.

I would have preferred a Shadowrun game too, but I'm still stoked about Cyberpunk 2077.

Looks absolutely insane.  I hope my PC can handle it.  

So hope we get deep customization for guns.  Looks like you can customize fit parts and what not so really hope there are real options for customization as I seen this end up really shallow in other games.  

Really hope there is an option to say screw the resistance and become a corporate raider.  

Also hope the Nov release is firm.  Been waiting years for this and Bloodlines 2, and Bloodlines 2 is delayed indefinitely.  

I'm not really a PC gamer c, but when my office refurbishments are finished I'm building a new work PC. I'm going to do a Ryzen 9 3900 X 64gb of Ram, 128, if I can justify it.

Look into specs and what benchmarks you will actually need. For many 128 ram will do basically nothing. Simply put something else will bottleneck. Better doing a cooling system instead of going that high on ram. If you never built your own PC, highly suggesting doing it yourself. This way, anything goes wrong, you know where the part is and how to fix it. If you do build a PC, get a mid tower. Small towers are cute, but a bitch to wire. My first build was a micro cube and it SUCKED getting anything in or out of it. Also if you are not gaming with it or doing video editing get a budget video card, as you will not likely need the more expensive cards. For general use want a strong motherboard and processor combo first and foremost, then cooling to get that CPU going as fast as possible.

Edit:  Also if self building look to put in small drive to be a backup copy drive for your work stuff.  Can set to copy a folder from your main drive to a backup internal one nightly.  This way if you PC dies, pop out the drive and plug it in somewhere else and you have your records.  Having an online backup is good too for recent records, but for older ones cannot beat the backup internal.   

Also look into dual booting with Linux.  This saved my ass in grad school.  My computer errored and windows shit the bed, but was able to boot up in Linux and save my files before reformatting.  Lots of interesting usages for linux too, like breaking into PC's when people forget their passwords <.<

Aug 31, 2020 10:55:07 GMT iNCY said:

I'm not really a PC gamer c, but when my office refurbishments are finished I'm building a new work PC. I'm going to do a Ryzen 9 3900 X 64gb of Ram, 128, if I can justify it.

I built a PC with a Ryzen 3700x in March. It’s great. What do you need that much RAM for? 32 GB should be sufficient.

A made a big mistake when I selected my motherboard. Make sure the motherboard you get already has the bios that supports Ryzen installed. The mobo I bought claimed to support Ryzen but only after you installed a bios update. There was no way to update the bios without using a non-Ryzen CPU which I didn’t have.

Aug 31, 2020 18:09:26 GMT c said:

Look into specs and what benchmarks you will actually need. For many 128 ram will do basically nothing. Simply put something else will bottleneck. Better doing a cooling system instead of going that high on ram. If you never built your own PC, highly suggesting doing it yourself. This way, anything goes wrong, you know where the part is and how to fix it. If you do build a PC, get a mid tower. Small towers are cute, but a bitch to wire. My first build was a micro cube and it SUCKED getting anything in or out of it. Also if you are not gaming with it or doing video editing get a budget video card, as you will not likely need the more expensive cards. For general use want a strong motherboard and processor combo first and foremost, then cooling to get that CPU going as fast as possible.

Edit:  Also if self building look to put in small drive to be a backup copy drive for your work stuff.  Can set to copy a folder from your main drive to a backup internal one nightly.  This way if you PC dies, pop out the drive and plug it in somewhere else and you have your records.  Having an online backup is good too for recent records, but for older ones cannot beat the backup internal.   

Also look into dual booting with Linux.  This saved my ass in grad school.  My computer errored and windows shit the bed, but was able to boot up in Linux and save my files before reformatting.  Lots of interesting usages for linux too, like breaking into PC's when people forget their passwords <.<

I don't talk PC's much, I don't have the time but I am an enthusiast.
I have built all my PC's in the past.
My laptop is a Lenovo X1 Extreme with 64gb of Ram, I'd rather have too much than not enough.
I will get a motherboard with enough slots that I can start with two sticks of 32gb and increase it later.
I usually have a boot SSD and for storage I always have a raid array, I'm a bit of panic merchant like that.
I'm not a huge fan of dual booting but I have several Linux PC's, I use Linux for work quite often, I'm pretty boring though I will always use a Debian derivative like Ubuntu or Mint as they are so widely supported with drivers etc. Though I like Linux, I have no time for spending hours trying to make things work like people do with Arch.

Aug 31, 2020 21:33:09 GMT Gyro LC said:

Aug 31, 2020 10:55:07 GMT iNCY said:

I'm not really a PC gamer c, but when my office refurbishments are finished I'm building a new work PC. I'm going to do a Ryzen 9 3900 X 64gb of Ram, 128, if I can justify it.

I built a PC with a Ryzen 3700x in March. It’s great. What do you need that much RAM for? 32 GB should be sufficient.

A made a big mistake when I selected my motherboard. Make sure the motherboard you get already has the bios that supports Ryzen installed. The mobo I bought claimed to support Ryzen but only after you installed a bios update. There was no way to update the bios without using a non-Ryzen CPU which I didn’t have.

Yeah, I heard that's a catch.
I'm going next gen for the motherboard because I want the Pcie gen 4 I think being able to have so many cores is kind of hard to utilise unless you can get the data to them. I would like to get a 10gb Ethernet card or two to go with them.

Aug 31, 2020 23:23:50 GMT iNCY said:

Yeah, I heard that's a catch.
I'm going next gen for the motherboard because I want the Pcie gen 4 I think being able to have so many cores is kind of hard to utilise unless you can get the data to them. I would like to get a 10gb Ethernet card or two to go with them.

I ended up with this motherboard. www.newegg.com/msi-b450-tomahawk-max/p/N82E16813144267?item=N82E16813144267

As off topic as it is, I'm loving the computer build talk infinitely more than the politics talk. Keep that PC chatter going, boys!

Aug 31, 2020 23:32:34 GMT Gyro LC said:

Aug 31, 2020 23:23:50 GMT iNCY said:

Yeah, I heard that's a catch.
I'm going next gen for the motherboard because I want the Pcie gen 4 I think being able to have so many cores is kind of hard to utilise unless you can get the data to them. I would like to get a 10gb Ethernet card or two to go with them.

I ended up with this motherboard. www.newegg.com/msi-b450-tomahawk-max/p/N82E16813144267?item=N82E16813144267

It's a nice board, I was holding out for the B550 chipset.

I used to dual boot with Linux as a hangover from my doctorate days, where I used Linux exclusively.

But now I only basically use my computer for personal entertainment, and dual boots always caused me minor headaches because I could never configure them quite right, so I got rid of the Linux partition a couple of months ago. Good riddance. Windows 10 is king, and I am thankful for the extra hard drive space. I have no reason to use Linux anymore. Sure, it's great for programming, but the minimal amount of casual programming I'd like to do can be done easily enough on Windows.

My PC needs an upgrade. Last upgrade was nearly 5 years ago. My tower unit is too small, and while normal activities don't cause any problems, even moderately intense games cause the fan to go crazy and temperatures to soar to nearly 100 degrees.

My graphics card is perhaps still OK. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960. Not the best out there, but I've never been interested in having to run the most modern games on the highest settings. As long as I can play without overheating and it looks reasonably good, I don't give a fuck.

I could do with a larger tower unit with better cooling facilities, and perhaps a CPU upgrade. 8GB RAM is fine.

Where's our mod to move all this talk to a new thread? @admin RT

Sept 1, 2020 0:46:49 GMT Emperor said:

I used to dual boot with Linux as a hangover from my doctorate days, where I used Linux exclusively.

But now I only basically use my computer for personal entertainment, and dual boots always caused me minor headaches because I could never configure them quite right, so I got rid of the Linux partition a couple of months ago. Good riddance. Windows 10 is king, and I am thankful for the extra hard drive space. I have no reason to use Linux anymore. Sure, it's great for programming, but the minimal amount of casual programming I'd like to do can be done easily enough on Windows.

My PC needs an upgrade. Last upgrade was nearly 5 years ago. My tower unit is too small, and while normal activities don't cause any problems, even moderately intense games cause the fan to go crazy and temperatures to soar to nearly 100 degrees.

My graphics card is perhaps still OK. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960. Not the best out there, but I've never been interested in having to run the most modern games on the highest settings. As long as I can play without overheating and it looks reasonably good, I don't give a fuck.

I could do with a larger tower unit with better cooling facilities, and perhaps a CPU upgrade. 8GB RAM is fine.

Where's our mod to move all this talk to a new thread? @admin RT

I honestly forgot I was made OT mod.

Sept 1, 2020 0:46:49 GMT Emperor said:

I used to dual boot with Linux as a hangover from my doctorate days, where I used Linux exclusively.

But now I only basically use my computer for personal entertainment, and dual boots always caused me minor headaches because I could never configure them quite right, so I got rid of the Linux partition a couple of months ago. Good riddance. Windows 10 is king, and I am thankful for the extra hard drive space. I have no reason to use Linux anymore. Sure, it's great for programming, but the minimal amount of casual programming I'd like to do can be done easily enough on Windows.

My PC needs an upgrade. Last upgrade was nearly 5 years ago. My tower unit is too small, and while normal activities don't cause any problems, even moderately intense games cause the fan to go crazy and temperatures to soar to nearly 100 degrees.

My graphics card is perhaps still OK. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960. Not the best out there, but I've never been interested in having to run the most modern games on the highest settings. As long as I can play without overheating and it looks reasonably good, I don't give a fuck.

I could do with a larger tower unit with better cooling facilities, and perhaps a CPU upgrade. 8GB RAM is fine.

Where's our mod to move all this talk to a new thread? @admin RT

I agree the hate Windows 10 gets makes no sense, except for the excruciating way of doing the settings, give us back the control panel and be done with it.
For Linux, I have a Virtual Machine I run on my PC.
I also have two Synology disk stations, one at work and one at home.
I installed Docker on both of them, which is great because just about everything can be downloaded as a docker container these days.
This wouldn't be idea for heavy applications, but for most of what I do it is perfect.

I also have a really bad addiction to Single Board computers like the Raspberry Pi, I have a heap of them.

On graphics card, for my build I was looking at a 2080ti i don't really expect to be gaming.
Mostly I am doing Cad, video editing etc.

Yes, I agree it would be great to have a PC general.

RT, could you move the other post I just made over to here please.

I do not mind Windows 10. It is not great but still better than Linux in terms of support. I only use the dual boot now as a recursive recovery boot. Used it for 10 years without problems, but I keep the Linux boot extremely simple. It literally only exists so if Windows bricks I can remove what I need before formatting the hard drive.

Picking between the 2080 and 1080 comes down to the price of bitcoin really. Bitcoin miners use the 1080's so if cost is similar, then no reason not to go to the 2080. If the prices are normal though, the 2080 is not worth the 300% cost since most programs do not use ray tracing, so it is only a tiny performance upgrade. Check the benchmarks of your editing program though, as may be a corner case. Gamers and streamers though noticed very little improvement swapping up. If you plan to run that level of hardware, look into liquid cooling if you are not already. That will pay off big time. The largest loss of power in PC building is the power loss due to heat. Good wire management, air flow and cooling will pay off more than any upgrade from high level to top of the line level right now. And yeah for video editing the higher level of ram may help but may not see any need to go above 64 even editing at 4k. 128 is more suggested for 8k or 16k. Just basically make sure you not paying for shit you will not need that will be obsolete in five years.

I also love Raspberry Pi's. I have one as a media box and another as a retro game system right now. If I had money would set up a home automation system on one.

Edit:  nevermind Wraith did not release the liquid cooler it seems.

Sept 1, 2020 7:04:23 GMT c said:

I do not mind Windows 10. It is not great but still better than Linux in terms of support. I only use the dual boot now as a recursive recovery boot. Used it for 10 years without problems, but I keep the Linux boot extremely simple. It literally only exists so if Windows bricks I can remove what I need before formatting the hard drive.

Picking between the 2080 and 1080 comes down to the price of bitcoin really. Bitcoin miners use the 1080's so if cost is similar, then no reason not to go to the 2080. If the prices are normal though, the 2080 is not worth the 300% cost since most programs do not use ray tracing, so it is only a tiny performance upgrade. Check the benchmarks of your editing program though, as may be a corner case. Gamers and streamers though noticed very little improvement swapping up. If you plan to run that level of hardware, look into liquid cooling if you are not already. That will pay off big time. The largest loss of power in PC building is the power loss due to heat. Good wire management, air flow and cooling will pay off more than any upgrade from high level to top of the line level right now. And yeah for video editing the higher level of ram may help but may not see any need to go above 64 even editing at 4k. 128 is more suggested for 8k or 16k. Just basically make sure you not paying for shit you will not need that will be obsolete in five years.

I also love Raspberry Pi's. I have one as a media box and another as a retro game system right now. If I had money would set up a home automation system on one.

Yeah, I find it easier to have rescue media, but whatever they used to replace the MBR is a lot more rigid, I haven't had a corrupted bot sector in a long time.
I was probably going to go air cooling, i don't think liquid is enough of an advantage, if you're prepared to get a decent cooler like a Nocturna the only real advantage of liquid is that it is silent.

I have been lusting after this monitor for a while... 

www.samsung.com/au/monitors/odyssey-g9-c49g95t/LC49G95TSSEXXY/


I have gone off the Raspberry Pi, but I think the 4 looks good, I switched to the NanoPi's the price is amazing and the feature set on the M4 is killer, especially in Industrial applications.
This case setup is cool: www.friendlyarm.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=85&product_id=277


I love all of this stuff but I am really chronically time poor, it's 11:40pm, I'm still working.
This is one of my dream projects that I have, but no time to work on it.




It's a terrible photo, I will find a better one, this is in my workshop.
This is 3-Axis CNC Router that I got for free, it was working when I pulled it out.
Still haven't had a chance to commission it, I used to work on 3-Axis machines, I am going to convert it to a Windows controller... I figure that's nerdy enough for this thread.

iNCY, what can or could/would you make on that?

Sept 1, 2020 15:07:30 GMT 🤯 said:

iNCY , what can or could/would you make on that?

Anything that is non-ferous metals really... Wood, timber, plastic etc.
So... Furniture, Signage, Toys, Cabinets etc.

I bought it for prototyping equipment, my CNC router started its life making guitars though thats not what the place I got it from was using it for.

This is a generic video that shows some guys CNC Router




One of my first projects is some illuminated signs for my daughters bedroom walls.
Second is a killer retro arcade cabinet.

Fuck, I want a CNC router!

Incy, if you want to go high end for the graphics card, the 3080 was announced today.

www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2020/09/01/nvidia-rtx-3090-3080-and-3070-everything-we-know-ahead-of-todays-ampere-launch/#23c3fb5b4077

And liquid cooling will get you a performance boost on par with moving from from the 1080 to the 2080. It is a huge boost. No need for a complex system, just something to cool the CPU. Stuff is FAR easier to use these days than it used to be. Closed-Loop liquid coolers are common now and pretty much plug and play without a hassle. They are also smaller than air cooling options. Will need two of them to also cool the GPU. Also increases overall airflow through the PC due to the smaller footprint as CPU aircoolers tend to be massive. I use air cooling for my current build but next build will def be liquid cooled now that closed systems are a lot less hassle to use. It may be overkill for your system but if you are going to run high end, you will need it to really get the most out of the hardware.

If you do run air cooler make sure you use a GOOD cooler. This is what I run now and it works great.

www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI

Not sure your PC building knowledge, but I seen people with insane systems and a stock CPU fan wondering why shit runs slow.  Cost limited me but a dual fan setup would be best.  It is size heavy so a small case may find itself running out of room, which is why I suggest mid to full towers.  Small towers are cute, but I focus on performance.

Also know cases are def not all considered equal so look into a strong case option too.  Another area I seen people skimp on.  I like cooler master cases for more budget options but there are some really great cases on the higher end.

In the near future I plan to move my PC into this case or something very similar.  

www.lian-li.com/lancool-ii-mesh-performance/

I love that you can open the PC to work on it without unscrewing anything.  I also just think this is a sweet budget case.  Of course there are better options at the higher end, but me broke.  

That CNC router is sweet, especially for free. I have the Pocket NC v1 5-axis. It can only do up to 4” cubes. We were using it to make wooden dice. pocketnc.com/

How do liquid coolers work? Do they go inside your tower unit?

Closed loops one go inside the tower and instead of a massive heat block use a small block over the CPU and a base elsewhere. Water moves over the CPU cooler to absorb the heat, gets moved away from the CPU and through fans at the base to cool it before pumping it back.

At least that is how ones I can afford work.

Take this one for instance.

www.amazon.com/CoolerMaster-MasterLiquid-Close-Loop-Cooler-SickleFlow/dp/B086BYYFG5

The fan base is mounted somewhere in the PC that has room, and the circular cap part is mounted over the CPU. The goal is to move the heat away from the CPU to cool it and uses the fluid to move it.  

The reason they are such a good idea now, is if you look at that price it is not much higher than a mid tier air cooler for a mid tier liquid cooler, and the liquid cooler does a better job of handling the heat while being a set and forget install.

Very basic explanation of how it works.

Here is how air cooling works:



And water by the same user.

As much as I'm loving this thread, why isn't it in VG&Tech?

-_-

VG&T is just Video Games now :lol:

But yeah, still seems like the more appropriate place.