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Post by 🤯 on Nov 16, 2020 16:01:39 GMT
LOTR would've been infinitely more tolerable had Jackson exhibited some self control and kept shit to 90 minutes or less.
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Post by Ness on Nov 16, 2020 16:04:58 GMT
No way is any lotr better than Step Brothers.
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Post by thereallt on Nov 16, 2020 16:41:27 GMT
No way is any lotr better than Step Brothers. I'd watch the entire LOTR trilogy for a week straight before I would even think about putting on Step Brothers.
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Post by UT on Nov 16, 2020 16:56:48 GMT
No way is any lotr better than Step Brothers. I'd watch the entire LOTR trilogy for a week straight before I would even think about putting on Step Brothers. There are easier ways to tell us you’re a masochist.
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Post by Ness on Nov 16, 2020 17:00:05 GMT
A week straight is like one full viewing.
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Post by iron maiden on Nov 16, 2020 17:20:23 GMT
No way is any lotr better than Step Brothers. I'd watch the entire LOTR trilogy for a week straight before I would even think about putting on Step Brothers. I'd watch nothing but the entire LOTR trilogy for a year before I would think about putting on Step Brothers.
Then I would go to UT's place and enact it in interpretive dance.
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Post by UT on Nov 16, 2020 17:22:27 GMT
I'd watch the entire LOTR trilogy for a week straight before I would even think about putting on Step Brothers. I'd watch nothing but the entire LOTR trilogy for a year before I would think about putting on Step Brothers.
Then I would go to UT's place and enact it in interpretive dance.
Would still be better than the movies I’m sure.
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Post by Emperor on Nov 16, 2020 21:07:04 GMT
No way is any lotr better than Step Brothers. I'd watch the entire LOTR trilogy for a week straight before I would even think about putting on Step Brothers. So would I, and I'm not a LOTR fan.
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Post by Ness on Nov 16, 2020 21:08:48 GMT
See that post shows me how much I dislike the franchise that I've never seen... I REFUSE to stylize it with capital letters. In fact all references will be SMALLER lotr. Also thanks Emperor for fixing your avatar!
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Post by Emperor on Nov 16, 2020 21:09:46 GMT
Sans will never be replaced permanently.
I am Sans. Sans is I.
Should I start a gimmick where I post in Comic Sans font?
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Post by Strobe on Nov 16, 2020 21:34:09 GMT
Look again at all these losers that don't like The Lord of the Rings. The Two Towers was my #40 and I feel like that's probably about where I'd place the trilogy as a whole if I was allowed to include it. The Two Towers is basically as good a 3-hour film as the entire trilogy is a 9+ hour one. From the Movies of the 00s thread: Two Towers is the better overall movie but Return of the King is brilliant in it's own right. The Oscar was really more for the trilogy as a whole because the first two films got jerked by the Academy. Yeah, as standalone films, Fellowship is hurt by feeling like a beginning. Return is hurt by taking an hour to wrap up a 3 and a half hour film because its wrapping up all of it. Two Towers is clearly the best standalone for me as well, yet lowest on IMDb. Opens with Gandalf fighting the Balrog and we get the excellent Helm's Deep battle as the climax before a little Frodo/Sam/Gollum scene at the end to set up what is to come. But it is really one giant film and I only ever don't think of it as such for lists like this, because it would sort-of be breaking the rules. But it is unlike other sequels or series. You make a film and people like it, so the studio wants you to make a sequel, so you go away and work on a new script and then make a second film. This is how most sequels happen. Or you can have a planned series like Harry Potter, based off a book series, but they are clearly distinct movies with separate productions, with the director and team changing at different points. The Lord of the Rings was one giant production. It was all planned out as a single thing, with production design beginning in August 1997 and (excluding pick-up shots) filming taking place between October 1999 and December 2000, with the three films released in December of the three subsequent years. Therefore, each film had basically a full year spent on its post-production, editing and pick-up shots (there was a single pick-up shot post-ROTK theatrical release in 2004 for the extended edition). Them being released individually obviously makes sense practically (most people aren't going spend half a day in the cinema) and financially. And I agree that the Academy as a whole realised this and waited for the concluding chapter and gave it all the awards for the totality really, which is admittedly a tad unfair to the other films released in 2003. And what is up with all you nerds not liking Lord of the Rings? It is fantastic. A plethora of great characters, quotable lines, memorable scenes, incredible music (for range of memorable pieces, up there with anything really), effects that hold up very well for the most part, great cinematography, sound design, sets, make-up, everything. Because it has great almost everything, the acting gets slept on a bit and barely received any nominations, but it is pretty great across the board, with a few standouts. It does feel like most are starting to acknowledge Andy Serkis' Gollum as a great acting performance and that motion capture can be thought of as essentially deep make-up. But the animators can obviously add things, so there is a grey area, making it understandable why it is easier just to not consider those roles for awards and the like.
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Post by Lionheart on Nov 17, 2020 2:55:53 GMT
Sans will never be replaced permanently. I know that game is probably great, but what warrants this legendary permavatar status? What was your avatar prior to you playing that game, so when your gameplaying history was sans Sans?
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Post by 🤯 on Nov 17, 2020 10:37:08 GMT
Sans will never be replaced permanently. I know that game is probably great, but what warrants this legendary permavatar status? What was your avatar prior to you playing that game, so when your gameplaying history was sans Sans? The same CPA Brock pic he bequeathed to me.
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Post by UT on Nov 17, 2020 14:00:10 GMT
Silence of the Lambs is an all time great , a near perfect movie IMO and one I can watch anytime.
The performances are the strength of the movie.
Obviously you have Hopkins as Lecter in one of the most iconic roles of all time and him turning Lecter almost an antihero through his delivery and charisma , along with the great writing is tremendous stuff. And all with incredibly limited screentime.
Foster in her best role by far , she balances the idea of in over her head agent with the hard ass-iness needed for the role. Her interactions with Lecter are when the movie is at it's best as she doesn't lose an inch of ground to him or Hopkins.
Levine as Buffalo Bill is another iconic one , which says something for someone playing third fiddle in the movie. The real villain of the movie too and he is perfect part creepy and charismatic. "Was she a great big fat girl" is one of the most overlooked lines of the movie. I can't not laugh at it evertime.
Even going down as far as the doctor , who is the 1b villain of the movie and a perfect smarmy dickhead.
The movie's biggest strength is it's performances but that is to take nothing away from Demme and the screenplay either. All executed brilliantly and results in just an incredibly fluid movie that will forever stand the test of time.
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Post by Baker on Nov 17, 2020 14:55:13 GMT
81. Silence of the Lambs- UT explained it well
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Post by Ness on Nov 17, 2020 15:04:33 GMT
Silence is an iconic film. So many have imitated lines or scenes. Dunno if the remainder books/sequels are worth it, but this was great.
Also it inspired Joe Dirt!
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Post by CM Punk'd on Nov 17, 2020 16:42:27 GMT
LOL "Winner for not having James Stewart in it."
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Post by Big Pete on Nov 17, 2020 16:53:34 GMT
I want to read UT's post so bad but the avatar is giving me conniptions. :lol:
Hopefully the next movie is avatar worthy.
Surprised Silence fell this low, I would have put good money on it being a Top 20.
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Post by UT on Nov 17, 2020 17:34:24 GMT
I want to read UT's post so bad but the avatar is giving me conniptions. :lol:
Hopefully the next movie is avatar worthy.
Surprised Silence fell this low, I would have put good money on it being a Top 20.
Oh Baker read it just fine! More like Whiny Pete. I’ll change it since it’s you and not 🤯.
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Post by UT on Nov 17, 2020 17:36:34 GMT
LOL "Winner for not having James Stewart in it." I appreciate you and your puns 66% more now.
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Post by Shootist on Nov 17, 2020 17:52:26 GMT
8. The Shining (1980) 9. Rear Window (1954) 11. Apocalypse Now: Redux (2001) 12. 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) 17. Planes, Trains and Automobiles (1987) 19. The Breakfast Club (1985) 21. Clerks (1994) 24. Raiders Of The Lost Ark (1981) 25. A Nightmare On Elm Street (1984) 26. Rocky (1976) 29. Rocky IV (1985) 33. Raging Bull (1980) 35. Happy Gilmore (1996) 38. Fargo (1996) 40. Back To The Future Part II (1989) 42. Terminator (1984) 45. Die Hard: With A Vengeance (1995) 46. Braveheart (1995) 47. Boogie Nights (1997) 48. The Silence Of The Lambs (1991)54. Speed (1994) 56. Full Metal Jacket (1987) 66. American Psycho (2000) 67. Falling Down (1993) 75. Kill Bill Vol.1 (2003) 78. Avengers: Endgame (2019) 79. Logan (2017) 81. Batman Begins (2005) 83. Scarface (1983) 86. Halloween (1978) 87. Apollo 13 (1995) 94. One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest (1975) 99. E.T.: The Extra Terrestrial (1982) 100. Vertigo (1958) Other than what UT said, the more I watch it, the more I think Ted Levine>>>>Anthony Hopkins. That entire scene at the well (It rubs the lotion...) is stellar and really had Levine nearly cracking up on set as he hated to see that girl down in the well screaming for her mother.
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Post by UT on Nov 17, 2020 18:24:24 GMT
8. The Shining (1980) 9. Rear Window (1954) 11. Apocalypse Now: Redux (2001) 12. 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) 17. Planes, Trains and Automobiles (1987) 19. The Breakfast Club (1985) 21. Clerks (1994) 24. Raiders Of The Lost Ark (1981) 25. A Nightmare On Elm Street (1984) 26. Rocky (1976) 29. Rocky IV (1985) 33. Raging Bull (1980) 35. Happy Gilmore (1996) 38. Fargo (1996) 40. Back To The Future Part II (1989) 42. Terminator (1984) 45. Die Hard: With A Vengeance (1995) 46. Braveheart (1995) 47. Boogie Nights (1997) 48. The Silence Of The Lambs (1991)54. Speed (1994) 56. Full Metal Jacket (1987) 66. American Psycho (2000) 67. Falling Down (1993) 75. Kill Bill Vol.1 (2003) 78. Avengers: Endgame (2019) 79. Logan (2017) 81. Batman Begins (2005) 83. Scarface (1983) 86. Halloween (1978) 87. Apollo 13 (1995) 94. One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest (1975) 99. E.T.: The Extra Terrestrial (1982) 100. Vertigo (1958) Other than what UT said, the more I watch it, the more I think Ted Levine>>>>Anthony Hopkins. That entire scene at the well (It rubs the lotion...) is stellar and really had Levine nearly cracking up on set as he hated to see that girl down in the well screaming for her mother. I wouldn't call it a better performance , but he's certainly more the villain. What Hopkins did can't be overlooked. Levine played a weirdo creep to perfection and made it memorable while not being slapstick. Hopkins had to simultaneously play a sociopath and not be too intimidating with Starling that you feared for her because then you'd turn completely on him and I don't think the movie works if you turn on Lecter right away. There is far more nuance to that performance that makes the movie work so well because too in any other direction and it all falls apart.
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Post by Ness on Nov 17, 2020 18:30:48 GMT
I want to read UT's post so bad but the avatar is giving me conniptions. :lol:
Hopefully the next movie is avatar worthy.
Surprised Silence fell this low, I would have put good money on it being a Top 20.
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Post by UT on Nov 17, 2020 18:35:48 GMT
The Social Network is another great one , and one from my list. Never can I remember a movie that absolutely didn't interest me the slightest in the premise but completely drew me in within minutes in it's execution. The movie has no business being as engaging and entertaining as it is but with Sorkins screenplay and Finchers directing they pulled it off to exceedingly high levels. Also Eisenburg? Like where the fuck did that come from? A performance I never would have expected. I think it might have been mikec's #1 or damn close. I like this spot for it on the list.
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Post by PB on Nov 17, 2020 18:36:37 GMT
3. It's a Wonderful Life (1946, Frank Capra)
I can't imagine not watching this every single year. It just brings me such joy. Bedford Falls is just this wonderfully textured community, and you care so much about everyone in it. I was too busy to comment during the Jimmy Stewart hate, but if you don't watch this and think he's amazing you just don't have eyes, ears, or a heart. And it isn't just corny. The only reason the happy ending works so well is because the pain and the despair as so fully formed and earned - so it doesn't feel trite, it feels genuinely cathartic at the end. I just love it and don't trust you as a person if you don't love it as well. 4. Singin' in the Rain (1952, Stanley Donen and Gene Kelly) 5. The Tree of Life (2011, Terrence Malik) 6. The Apartment (1960, Billy Wilder) 11. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003, Peter Jackson) 12. Citizen Kane (1941, Orson Welles) 13. Inside Out (2015, Pete Docter) 15. Blade Runner (1982, Ridley Scott) 19. The Night of the Hunter (1955, Charles Laughton) 21. E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial (1982, Steven Spielberg) 22. Rear Window (1954, Alfred Hitchcock) 27. Three Colours: Blue (1993, Krzysztof Kieslowski) 29. Avengers: Endgame (2019, Joe and Anthony Russo) 30. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001, Peter Jackson) 31. Batman Begins (2005, Christopher Nolan) 41. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002, Peter Jackson)
Surprised this finished highest when it didn't feature on the last list it was eligible for but the other two did. I actually take the opposite view of Strobe , when ranking them, as although he's right about the first feeling like a beginning, and then the wrapping up of the last, the two towers feels so much like a middle that it doesn't engage me as much and I don't feel as invested. But Helm's Deep is the greatest battle in cinema history and the Gollum scene is so captivating. I do rank them together in my mind as one long film - and I placed them fairly arbitrarily on my list just to space them out - but taken together I'd have them top 15. 43. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939, Frank Capra) 50. In Bruges (2008, Martin McDonagh) 55. Chinatown (Roman Polanski, 1974) 56. Memento (2000, Christopher Nolan) 59. Raging Bull (Martin Scorcese, 1980) 60. City of God (2002, Fernando Meirelles) 68. Zodiac (2007, David Fincher) 91. Adaptation (2002, Spike Jonze) 97. The Social Network (2010, David Fincher)
I just rewatched this at the weekend and it holds up so well. Sorkin's masterpiece as far as the script go, it just works so well and makes things that could be pretty dull very exciting and engaging. The score is unbelievable and Fincher takes what could be a masterpiece play and makes it truly cinematic, in a way that Sorkin's directorial efforts don't. What's interesting is that at the time people thought it was harsh on Zuckerberg, but watching it back, it clearly was too kind to him. I don't think its the perfect film of the decade that it gets hyped up to be in some circles, but it is very very good. 100. Skyfall (2012, Sam Mendes
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Post by mikec on Nov 17, 2020 18:40:58 GMT
The Social Network is another great one , and one from my list. Never can I remember a movie that absolutely didn't interest me the slightest in the premise but completely drew me in within minutes in it's execution. The movie has no business being as engaging and entertaining as it is but with Sorkins screenplay and Finchers directing they pulled it off to exceedingly high levels. Also Eisenburg? Like where the fuck did that come from? A performance I never would have expected. I think it might have been mikec's #1 or damn close. I like this spot for it on the list. It was my number two, but I don’t believe my #1 is making the list so it’s my highest ranked movie here probably. It’s terrific and a really great example of a terrific script put together with one of the best directors in the world. Sorkin is supposedly pitching a sequel around and though that sounds awful to me I’m sure it’d be better than I expect. Another top 10 movie off my list was Its a Wonderful Life which was my number 8. It is my number one tear jerker, I cry through the last ten minutes like a small child with a skinned knee.
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Post by 🤯 on Nov 17, 2020 19:11:23 GMT
I want to read UT's post so bad but the avatar is giving me conniptions. :lol: Hopefully the next movie is avatar worthy. Surprised Silence fell this low, I would have put good money on it being a Top 20.
Oh Baker read it just fine! More like Whiny Pete. I’ll change it since it’s you and not 🤯. Hey, I like this current avatar. Reminds me of rad for some reason. Maybe that it's a skinny white dude with long ginger hair?
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Post by Ness on Nov 17, 2020 19:15:46 GMT
Oh Baker read it just fine! More like Whiny Pete. I’ll change it since it’s you and not 🤯 . Hey, I like this current avatar. Reminds me of rad for some reason. Maybe that it's a skinny white dude with long ginger hair? It's borderline a pube peek.
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Post by Emperor on Nov 17, 2020 20:41:45 GMT
The Social Network might make a Top #200. Very engaging and entertaining film and a fascinating look into the phenomenon that is social networks.
I find Silence of the Lambs to be overrated amongst both critics and fans. As a total package, the movie is just a good serial killer/mystery tale. Jodie Foster and Anthony Hopkins are both incredible, especially together, and their performances elevate it to a great movie. But given that they, Hopkins especially, are not featured throughout the film, it's not top tier as a complete package.
I was never that invested in Buffalo Bill, perhaps because Hannibal Lecter completely outshines him. In that sense you could argue that Hopkins' performance, which deserves every acting accolade in the world, perhaps hinders the film in some way? It does for me. He is the star of the show, everything is mediocre in comparison, and given his little screentime, the whole movie appears mediocre because the majority of it doesn't feature Hannibal.
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Post by 🤯 on Nov 17, 2020 21:16:57 GMT
The Social Network might make a Top #200. Very engaging and entertaining film and a fascinating look into the phenomenon that is social networks. I find Silence of the Lambs to be overrated amongst both critics and fans. As a total package, the movie is just a good serial killer/mystery tale. Jodie Foster and Anthony Hopkins are both incredible, especially together, and their performances elevate it to a great movie. But given that they, Hopkins especially, are not featured throughout the film, it's not top tier as a complete package. I was never that invested in Buffalo Bill, perhaps because Hannibal Lecter completely outshines him. In that sense you could argue that Hopkins' performance, which deserves every acting accolade in the world, perhaps hinders the film in some way? It does for me. He is the star of the show, everything is mediocre in comparison, and given his little screentime, the whole movie appears mediocre because the majority of it doesn't feature Hannibal. Dr. Emperor saying what needs to be said re: SotL Count me in this camp. Also, Hannibal and Red Dragon sucking so bad also seems to elevate Silence by comparison.
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