it doesnt have to be Becky or Asuka or anyone on the roster currently...just as long as the winner is a wrestler and not a one off celeb

Ronda winning it makes it more historic than it simply being the first time. It'll get people talking on ESPN and TMZ so that's probably the most important thing to Vince.

Nov 28, 2017 22:53:12 GMT Mistress said:

it doesnt have to be Becky or Asuka or anyone on the roster currently...just as long as the winner is a wrestler and not a one off celeb

Which would be met with crickets.  Rousey would spark an interest which is what wwe needs right now. Getting hung up on it being the first of it's kind to me isn't a good reason to not give it to her IF she will be around a bit afterwards for wrestlemania.  In all honesty though, I have my doubts that WWE will even do a female royal rumble. 

Nov 28, 2017 22:57:32 GMT @ness said:

Ronda winning it makes it more historic than it simply being the first time. It'll get people talking on ESPN and TMZ so that's probably the most important thing to Vince.

ESPN already talks about WWE regularly...as does TMZ just not as regularly....
So Ronda isnt needed to spark interest.

Why not just let Trish return and win it?

I think Ronda just competing would draw interest from mainstream media. So it wouldn't be necessary for her to win just to be mentioned.

Nov 28, 2017 23:45:09 GMT CM Punk'd said:

I think Ronda just competing would draw interest from mainstream media. So it wouldn't be necessary for her to win just to be mentioned.

And totally kill off her cred going forward...sounds like a horrible plan.  If the plan is to have her beyond the rumble of course.  If it's just the rumble and that is it, then of course she can lose.  Of course this is the same company that put Goldberg over their hottest star in a squash so anything can happen.

As much as I like Hacksaw, it wasn't like he was the most prestigious winner and look at the Royal Rumble now.

In short Ronda > Duggan and the WWE would be lucky to have her services.

Nov 28, 2017 9:21:15 GMT NATH45 said:

Considering the booking of the Mae Young Classic, I would have more faith in Vince and the main roster creative than anyone else.

I didn't see the tournament. What is your issue with Triple H's booking?

Nov 29, 2017 3:11:17 GMT Ed said:

Nov 28, 2017 9:21:15 GMT NATH45 said:

Considering the booking of the Mae Young Classic, I would have more faith in Vince and the main roster creative than anyone else.

I didn't see the tournament. What is your issue with Triple H's booking?

Well.... I believe in short, it was a massive missed opportunity. The booking, and eventual final, was to appease a certain type of wrestler fan, rather than build new talent along the way. NXT and Triple H don't build 'WWE Superstars' - they rarely use the NXT platform to put over new talent, they use pre-established talent to put over NXT. 

The Mae Young Classic was the same. 

Nov 29, 2017 7:54:09 GMT NATH45 said:

Nov 29, 2017 3:11:17 GMT Ed said:

I didn't see the tournament. What is your issue with Triple H's booking?

Well.... I believe in short, it was a massive missed opportunity. The booking, and eventual final, was to appease a certain type of wrestler fan, rather than build new talent along the way. NXT and Triple H don't build 'WWE Superstars' - they rarely use the NXT platform to put over new talent, they use pre-established talent to put over NXT. 

The Mae Young Classic was the same. 

This is off subject but you seem to dislike NXT why is that? would be accurate to say you dislike HHH's decision making because it doesn't translate to the main roster?

I think Ronda could still make a great immediate impact, even without winning the title right away. You know what I'd like to see?

I want to see Ronda in the Rumble, only to be eliminated by Asuka (the eventual winner) near the end of the match.
At WrestleMania, Asuka wins the RAW Women's Title. Ronda comes down to face off with the champ.
Ronda teases Asuka during the spring/summer, and then poses a challenge for the RAW Women's Title for SummerSlam.
Asuka and Ronda square off in a closely contested match at SummerSlam. But Ronda loses, and Asuka is still undefeated.
They'd have a rematch set for the Survivor Series, in a submission match. Asuka wins again, and is still undefeated.
Ronda then has to enter the Women's Royal Rumble to have a shot at the title. She wins.
They tease one final encounter at WrestleMania. This time, in a steel cage.
At WrestleMania, Ronda Rousey wins the RAW Women's Championship, and ends Asuka's 3 1/2 year undefeated streak.

Do you think that would work?

Nov 29, 2017 21:00:19 GMT Ed said:

Nov 29, 2017 7:54:09 GMT NATH45 said:

Well.... I believe in short, it was a massive missed opportunity. The booking, and eventual final, was to appease a certain type of wrestler fan, rather than build new talent along the way. NXT and Triple H don't build 'WWE Superstars' - they rarely use the NXT platform to put over new talent, they use pre-established talent to put over NXT. 

The Mae Young Classic was the same. 

This is off subject but you seem to dislike NXT why is that? would be accurate to say you dislike HHH's decision making because it doesn't translate to the main roster?

I don't dislike NXT. I like NXT, it is by the far the best wrestling product the WWE is producing right now. Hands down. 

It's booked well, it's produced well, overall it's a good product.

However, they're losing sight of this concept of development, instead they're more concerned with booking what are essentially independent supercards. And that's fine in the short term, and that's fine, because NXT produces these great PPVs. But it's not fine, when the end game is to replenish the WWE Main Roster. 

The problem is you've got two different mindsets or ideologies under the same umbrella, with two different audiences. Kairi Sane is over in NXT, because NXT has become geared to attract a certain type of wrestling fan. That's ok if she spends her entire WWE career in NXT. But if she moves to the Main Roster, and she can't get her ridiculous pirate gimmick over, and suddenly all she is, is an anemic pirate with an elbow drop, that's the fault of NXT for not taking an independent worker and crafting her into a WWE Superstar. 

At the end of the day, NXT should be working for the WWE, not building workers with a conflicting skillset to what Vince McMahon and the WWE Main Roster wants, needs, looks for, likes to work with, etc. It's like asking for John Cena and getting Lance Storm. 

Nov 30, 2017 8:05:53 GMT NATH45 said:

Nov 29, 2017 21:00:19 GMT Ed said:

This is off subject but you seem to dislike NXT why is that? would be accurate to say you dislike HHH's decision making because it doesn't translate to the main roster?

I don't dislike NXT. I like NXT, it is by the far the best wrestling product the WWE is producing right now. Hands down. 

It's booked well, it's produced well, overall it's a good product.

However, they're losing sight of this concept of development, instead they're more concerned with booking what are essentially independent supercards. And that's fine in the short term, and that's fine, because NXT produces these great PPVs. But it's not fine, when the end game is to replenish the WWE Main Roster. 

The problem is you've got two different mindsets or ideologies under the same umbrella, with two different audiences. Kairi Sane is over in NXT, because NXT has become geared to attract a certain type of wrestling fan. That's ok if she spends her entire WWE career in NXT. But if she moves to the Main Roster, and she can't get her ridiculous pirate gimmick over, and suddenly all she is, is an anemic pirate with an elbow drop, that's the fault of NXT for not taking an independent worker and crafting her into a WWE Superstar. 

At the end of the day, NXT should be working for the WWE, not building workers with a conflicting skillset to what Vince McMahon and the WWE Main Roster wants, needs, looks for, likes to work with, etc. It's like asking for John Cena and getting Lance Storm. 

It is an interesting dichotomy for sure. I wonder how things would be if HHH was in change 1 day.

Dec 4, 2017 0:40:02 GMT Ed said:

Nov 30, 2017 8:05:53 GMT NATH45 said:

I don't dislike NXT. I like NXT, it is by the far the best wrestling product the WWE is producing right now. Hands down. 

It's booked well, it's produced well, overall it's a good product.

However, they're losing sight of this concept of development, instead they're more concerned with booking what are essentially independent supercards. And that's fine in the short term, and that's fine, because NXT produces these great PPVs. But it's not fine, when the end game is to replenish the WWE Main Roster. 

The problem is you've got two different mindsets or ideologies under the same umbrella, with two different audiences. Kairi Sane is over in NXT, because NXT has become geared to attract a certain type of wrestling fan. That's ok if she spends her entire WWE career in NXT. But if she moves to the Main Roster, and she can't get her ridiculous pirate gimmick over, and suddenly all she is, is an anemic pirate with an elbow drop, that's the fault of NXT for not taking an independent worker and crafting her into a WWE Superstar. 

At the end of the day, NXT should be working for the WWE, not building workers with a conflicting skillset to what Vince McMahon and the WWE Main Roster wants, needs, looks for, likes to work with, etc. It's like asking for John Cena and getting Lance Storm. 

It is an interesting dichotomy for sure. I wonder how things would be if HHH was in change 1 day.

Just to follow up my point, here's a snippet from Triple H 

"The entire time Elias was in NXT, I was trying to get him ready for Raw & Smackdown Live. I knew his value as a performer was there. Dusty Rhodes & I would talk about how he is made for the main roster, not for NXT"


"The gimmick, his demeanor, he is best suited for that. He is not a fit for NXT. It doesn't mean he wouldn't have a run in NXT, but that his time there was always to prepare for what is next. I think he's been making the most out of his Raw run so far"