Special shoutout to Steve McClendon getting the ring #youdeserveit

Well, that was a Superbowl first, I checked out before halftime. The Chiefs did get jobbed by the officials but they had no O-Line, the Bucs D deserves most of the credit for this win. Of course though it will be all given to Brady.

Feb 8, 2021 3:59:22 GMT Shootist said:

Well, that was a Superbowl first, I checked out before halftime. The Chiefs did get jobbed by the officials but they had no O-Line, the Bucs D deserves most of the credit for this win. Of course though it will be all given to Brady.

If only they jerked each other off at the halfway line instead?

No idea where the "all about Brady" thing comes from. The CBS panel after the game literally acknowledged everyone who contributed - Arians, Bowles, the defence, the FA pickups. If anything Tom's not getting enough credit for a virtually flawless performance.

Chris Jones: Penalties 1,000 percent affected the game

Well said brother.

Feb 8, 2021 3:17:31 GMT @admin said:

Feb 8, 2021 3:15:27 GMT iNCY said:

Yes, I was... It was like some made for Australia abortion.

I learned my lesson last year - Channel 7 carries the US feed.

Thanks... It was truly awful.
Commentators were talking about how Mahomes had been taken to pieces for the entire second half.
I thought he threw a good game with zero support and if some of the very catchable opportunities were taken, maybe a different result.

Kelce had two drops , Hill had an incredible throw hit him in the face and I think Williams did too. Mahomes played a great game.

Didn’t help they were playing 11 vs 15 either and were clearly pressing.

Feb 8, 2021 4:14:54 GMT iNCY said:

Feb 8, 2021 3:17:31 GMT @admin said:

I learned my lesson last year - Channel 7 carries the US feed.

Thanks... It was truly awful.
Commentators were talking about how Mahomes had been taken to pieces for the entire second half.
I thought he threw a good game with zero support and if some of the very catchable opportunities were taken, maybe a different result.

Well if that's verbatim how they described it they're not really wrong - he got absolutely abused tonight with the lack of protection. It was the sort of performance that made you wonder what the NFL would have looked like the past couple of seasons had Mahomes been drafted by a different team with the type of dysfunction that many operate with.

Anyone claiming that he played poorly or was part of the problem needs their eyes tested - he probably performed three or four of the greatest incompletions the sport has ever seen tonight scrambling around to avoid completely unblocked rushers and (as you say) still giving his receivers multiple chances to make plays.

Had Eric Fisher not been lost at the end of the AFCCG I think we would have seen a very different game tonight.

Blindy,yeah bro I’m very happy about Lenny too. That’s my dog.

Really stunned still. I guess the blowout saves the pain but it is crazy to see this high powered offense score zero TDS. Still blows my mind.

Feb 8, 2021 2:04:41 GMT @admin said:

Mike Remmers has been getting destroyed all game.

Mike Remmers was the fill-in tackle in Super Bowl 50 when Von Miller destroyed Cam Newton and won MVP. 

Feb 8, 2021 4:27:36 GMT @admin said:

Feb 8, 2021 4:14:54 GMT iNCY said:

Thanks... It was truly awful.
Commentators were talking about how Mahomes had been taken to pieces for the entire second half.
I thought he threw a good game with zero support and if some of the very catchable opportunities were taken, maybe a different result.

Well if that's verbatim how they described it they're not really wrong - he got absolutely abused tonight with the lack of protection. It was the sort of performance that made you wonder what the NFL would have looked like the past couple of seasons had Mahomes been drafted by a different team with the type of dysfunction that many operate with.

Anyone claiming that he played poorly or was part of the problem needs their eyes tested - he probably performed three or four of the greatest incompletions the sport has ever seen tonight scrambling around to avoid completely unblocked rushers and (as you say) still giving his receivers multiple chances to make plays.

Had Eric Fisher not been lost at the end of the AFCCG I think we would have seen a very different game tonight.

yeah, I agree with you, this part was me: "I thought he threw a good game with zero support and if some of the very catchable opportunities were taken, maybe a different result."
Commentators were just talking about how he had been neaten.

Feb 8, 2021 5:05:41 GMT Gyro LC said:

Feb 8, 2021 2:04:41 GMT @admin said:

Mike Remmers has been getting destroyed all game.

Mike Remmers was the fill-in tackle in Super Bowl 50 when Von Miller destroyed Cam Newton and won MVP. 

Great spot! 

Time after time in the playoffs we see how important the protection vs pass rush battle is. Bucs definitely got dealt a huge hand of good fortune going against the Packers without Bakhtiari and the Chiefs without Fisher - but I felt their defence never got the respect it deserved heading into the season, it was clear they were strong on all three levels (and thus able to execute the tiered zone scheme Bowles used tonight) and one of the few teams with a d-line with so many pass rushing threats.

Feb 8, 2021 3:32:34 GMT @admin said:

You guys drove Todd to sleep two hours ago and you're all still going on about the fucking refs! It really wasn't anywhere near that bad.

Feb 8, 2021 3:26:17 GMT RT said:

We're going to have Super Bowl blowouts for the rest of time.

This is the first really one sided game since the Seahawks over the Broncos, what are you talking about?

What I meant was the officiating keeps getting worse and if they don't fix it then there are going to be more super bowls like this one, and it's only going to hurt the NFL.

You're wrong about the officiating. It was that bad. I don't know why you and Todd are defending it. At least he had the excuse of being tired.

Feb 8, 2021 5:32:32 GMT RT said:

Feb 8, 2021 3:32:34 GMT @admin said:

You guys drove Todd to sleep two hours ago and you're all still going on about the fucking refs! It really wasn't anywhere near that bad.

This is the first really one sided game since the Seahawks over the Broncos, what are you talking about?

What I meant was the officiating keeps getting worse and if they don't fix it then there are going to be more super bowls like this one, and it's only going to hurt the NFL.

You're wrong about the officiating. It was that bad. I don't know why you and Todd are defending it. At least he had the excuse of being tired.

I don't really see any sort of correlation between bad refereeing and blow out games. And if you're talking about bad refereeing stopping people from watching I don't think that's the case - the no DPI call in the Saints/Rams game a couple of seasons ago was as egregious/impactful a mistake as you can get and that didn't make any difference to viewership.

I agree that there were a couple of bad calls. The holding on the Mathieu interception was particularly annoying as it was minimal contact and really didn't impact the play in any tangible way. But it's sport, that's always going to happen, I'm sure pduh would back me up about a couple of calls going the Chiefs way in 54 for instance. My issue is about the incessant complaining when the referees really weren't one of the major storylines of the game. Much like the NFCCG game was really about the Packers failing to score points off Brady's interceptions rather than the Kevin King DPI, you can't convince me that the refs were pivotal in a game when one team fails to score a touchdown.

Feb 8, 2021 5:54:29 GMT @admin said:

Feb 8, 2021 5:32:32 GMT RT said:

What I meant was the officiating keeps getting worse and if they don't fix it then there are going to be more super bowls like this one, and it's only going to hurt the NFL.

You're wrong about the officiating. It was that bad. I don't know why you and Todd are defending it. At least he had the excuse of being tired.

I don't really see any sort of correlation between bad refereeing and blow out games. And if you're talking about bad refereeing stopping people from watching I don't think that's the case - the no DPI call in the Saints/Rams game a couple of seasons ago was as egregious/impactful a mistake as you can get and that didn't make any difference to viewership.

I agree that there were a couple of bad calls. The holding on the Mathieu interception was particularly annoying as it was minimal contact and really didn't impact the play in any tangible way. But it's sport, that's always going to happen, I'm sure pduh would back me up about a couple of calls going the Chiefs way in 54 for instance. My issue is about the incessant complaining when the referees really weren't one of the major storylines of the game. Much like the NFCCG game was really about the Packers failing to score points off Brady's interceptions rather than the Kevin King DPI, you can't convince me that the refs were pivotal in a game when one team fails to score a touchdown.

It was more about how the KC defense was affected.   Their secondary were playing scared all night thanks to how the refs utterly fucked them in the first half.    Not to mention how the Tampa Bay secondary was allowed to play with a completely different standard when it came to contact.     Couple that with the ridculous amount of 3rd down bailout calls the Bucs got in the first half and you have a game that was absolutely nauseating to watch.

Feb 8, 2021 5:54:29 GMT @admin said:

Feb 8, 2021 5:32:32 GMT RT said:

What I meant was the officiating keeps getting worse and if they don't fix it then there are going to be more super bowls like this one, and it's only going to hurt the NFL.

You're wrong about the officiating. It was that bad. I don't know why you and Todd are defending it. At least he had the excuse of being tired.

I don't really see any sort of correlation between bad refereeing and blow out games. And if you're talking about bad refereeing stopping people from watching I don't think that's the case - the no DPI call in the Saints/Rams game a couple of seasons ago was as egregious/impactful a mistake as you can get and that didn't make any difference to viewership.

I agree that there were a couple of bad calls. The holding on the Mathieu interception was particularly annoying as it was minimal contact and really didn't impact the play in any tangible way. But it's sport, that's always going to happen, I'm sure pduh would back me up about a couple of calls going the Chiefs way in 54 for instance. My issue is about the incessant complaining when the referees really weren't one of the major storylines of the game. Much like the NFCCG game was really about the Packers failing to score points off Brady's interceptions rather than the Kevin King DPI, you can't convince me that the refs were pivotal in a game when one team fails to score a touchdown.

Two of the first three touchdowns were directly affected by it though.... they should have been punting and went on to score.

And of course the Packers and Chiefs failed to score points when their receivers and tight ends were getting mugged all game, at one point White bear hugged Kelce from behind before the ball got there and pinned his arms without a call. How are you supposed to play against that?

Seeing from places like PFF revisionist history that Todd Bowles is a great head coach just that the Jets brought him down in four seasons and he was dealt a bad hand, it's like these casual fans have no fucking idea what actually goes on You want to say you like him because he is a nice guy okay but there is so much wrong with Bowles as a HC that it is crazy and I am for diversity for head coaches but a guy got four seasons and bombed 3 out of the 4, a lot does fall on our then terrible GM Mike McCagnan but a lot of the underachieving does fall on Todd Bowles as well.

Bunch of casuals.

The Chiefs literally flew to Tampa to kick 3 field goals

Thoughts on last night's game: you know it was a drag to watch when the most exciting facet of the event was some drunk dude running onto the field wearing a bra.

One of the worst Superbowls ever.

Feb 8, 2021 19:45:56 GMT rad said:

Thoughts on last night's game: you know it was a drag to watch when the most exciting facet of the event was some drunk dude running onto the field wearing a bra.

One of the worst Superbowls ever.

It was pretty bad.  But as for worst?  I'd still go with XXXV.

Feb 8, 2021 20:07:34 GMT CM Punk'd said:

Feb 8, 2021 19:45:56 GMT rad said:

Thoughts on last night's game: you know it was a drag to watch when the most exciting facet of the event was some drunk dude running onto the field wearing a bra.

One of the worst Superbowls ever.

It was pretty bad.  But as for worst?  I'd still go with XXXV.

No this was worse and I'm a Giants fan.    While it was to hard to watch the ass-kicking the Giants got was 100% legit, without the refs sticking their noses in it.


The refs utterly tainted this Super Bowl with how they officiated the first half.   It's the only Super Bowl I quit watching before the game was over.

I saw that replay again of Mahomes making that diving throw only for yet another receiver to let the ball hit his face and man...I feel bad for him today.

Only him though. The rest of the team can suck it. Maybe not Kelce but definitely everyone else.

Feb 8, 2021 10:08:29 GMT thereallt said:

Feb 8, 2021 5:54:29 GMT @admin said:

I don't really see any sort of correlation between bad refereeing and blow out games. And if you're talking about bad refereeing stopping people from watching I don't think that's the case - the no DPI call in the Saints/Rams game a couple of seasons ago was as egregious/impactful a mistake as you can get and that didn't make any difference to viewership.

I agree that there were a couple of bad calls. The holding on the Mathieu interception was particularly annoying as it was minimal contact and really didn't impact the play in any tangible way. But it's sport, that's always going to happen, I'm sure pduh would back me up about a couple of calls going the Chiefs way in 54 for instance. My issue is about the incessant complaining when the referees really weren't one of the major storylines of the game. Much like the NFCCG game was really about the Packers failing to score points off Brady's interceptions rather than the Kevin King DPI, you can't convince me that the refs were pivotal in a game when one team fails to score a touchdown.

It was more about how the KC defense was affected.   Their secondary were playing scared all night thanks to how the refs utterly fucked them in the first half.    Not to mention how the Tampa Bay secondary was allowed to play with a completely different standard when it came to contact.     Couple that with the ridculous amount of 3rd down bailout calls the Bucs got in the first half and you have a game that was absolutely nauseating to watch.

What are you even talking about regarding third down bailouts? There was one penalty called on third down on the Chiefs and it was on the Mathieu interception that I mentioned - hardly some epidemic that kept the Bucs on the field.

Feb 8, 2021 14:15:25 GMT Blindy said:

Seeing from places like PFF revisionist history that Todd Bowles is a great head coach just that the Jets brought him down in four seasons and he was dealt a bad hand, it's like these casual fans have no fucking idea what actually goes on You want to say you like him because he is a nice guy okay but there is so much wrong with Bowles as a HC that it is crazy and I am for diversity for head coaches but a guy got four seasons and bombed 3 out of the 4, a lot does fall on our then terrible GM Mike McCagnan but a lot of the underachieving does fall on Todd Bowles as well.


Bunch of casuals.

Where did they say that? You hardly have room to criticise anyone else's takes on Bowles considering how off the mark you have been about the work he has done at Tampa.

All over social media and he had a solid 3 game run led by great pass rush play individually, not taking anything away from this playoff run but unlike you, I have seen his head coach tenure week to week and lets just say it's far, far from impressive. I would not want to be the GM to have to stick my neck out and have this guy as my HC. The issue with him was letting Kacy Rogers run the defense and being too stubborn to relinquish his power over his friendship of the guy. He should stick to his role as Bruce Arians essential Robin. He made some lousy coordinator choices offensively too in Chan Gailey who can do absolutely nothing outside of Ryan Fitzpatrick as his QB, Morton who was good at times when given the chance to not play conservative under Bowles wanting a rushing attack and Jeremy Bates who was mediocre at best and didn't create any imagination with the offense which became far too predictable for anything to happen. The funny part is for all the love Bruce Arians had for Toddy, he at best came to a training camp visit for 1-2 days and said hello to everybody and nothing more. No advisor position, he even opted to call games for FOX sports over helping out his fading best friend from Temple :lol:

He had me year 1 but after that everything went down the drain and the fact he got a 4th year is a testament in itself. I guess the selling point was that he and McCagnan would go out together as they came in.

You want to say he somehow has "learned" his lesson, sure but I would not be excited if my fanbase has him as head coach.

Rams/Patriots two years ago is probably the worst Super Bowl I can remember. What a terrible game.

Chiefs were dominated in the trenches. Just ... they stood no chance.

Feb 8, 2021 22:31:20 GMT KJ said:

Rams/Patriots two years ago is probably the worst Super Bowl I can remember. What a terrible game.

Chiefs were dominated in the trenches. Just ... they stood no chance.

Bit of a Romo curse developing perhaps?

Interesting how similar those two games were in a lot of ways. A Brady led team getting the advantage from a truly inspired defensive performance, abusing the opposing o-line and their coaches failing to be able to come up with any adjustment to sure up the protection issues, and failing to score a touchdown. Brady to Gronk was the key offensive play of the game that time too.

I don’t know what game you ref blamers were watching. The Chiefs got smoked, and two drives with silly penalties is not the reason. The offense’s inability to give Mahomes 3 seconds in the pocket against a 4 man rush and the way that gave the Bucs the ability to double both Tyreek and Kelce was the difference in the game, not the “defense being scared of getting penalties”.

This was not fun to watch, but also most of the Super Bowls of my youth weren’t fun. The Cowboys and 49ers Super Bowls were ugly one-sided slaughters, that Ravens Giants game was the worst I’d ever seen until the recent LA-NE Super Bowl.

The chiefs got killed like the three 80s Broncos Super Bowl teams.

Feb 9, 2021 1:13:02 GMT mikec said:

I don’t know what game you ref blamers were watching. The Chiefs got smoked, and two drives with silly penalties is not the reason. The offense’s inability to give Mahomes 3 seconds in the pocket against a 4 man rush and the way that gave the Bucs the ability to double both Tyreek and Kelce was the difference in the game, not the “defense being scared of getting penalties”.

This was not fun to watch, but also most of the Super Bowls of my youth weren’t fun. The Cowboys and 49ers Super Bowls were ugly one-sided slaughters, that Ravens Giants game was the worst I’d ever seen until the recent LA-NE Super Bowl.

I 100% agree about the Tampa Bay defense, they played inspired.   But 2 out 3 scoring drives from Tampa Bay offense in the first half were from drives extended by terrible penalties.   Not to mention the completely absurd unsportsmanlike penalties. (Tom Brady gets in your face and YOU'RE flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct?)   95 penalty yards IN ONE QUARTER is absurd any way you look at it.

You can't tell me the KC secondary was able to play with any confidence after the way refs saddled them with ticky tack penalties the entire first half.   Especially given that the Tampa Bay secondary wasn't held to that same standard (really they haven't been the entire playoffs)


I think Tampa Bay still would have won with the crazy pass rush they were putting on Mahomes.  But without all the refball the game at least would have been somewhat interesting.   As is I was done pretty much after half-time.

Patriots/Rams was definitely the worst recent SB.

Denver/Carolina was awful too.

Feb 8, 2021 20:07:34 GMT CM Punk'd said:

Feb 8, 2021 19:45:56 GMT rad said:

Thoughts on last night's game: you know it was a drag to watch when the most exciting facet of the event was some drunk dude running onto the field wearing a bra.

One of the worst Superbowls ever.

It was pretty bad.  But as for worst?  I'd still go with XXXV.

Not the worst but one of. The Pats-Rams 13-3 (LIII I think?) was the worst I've ever seen personally.