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Post by NATH45 on Feb 18, 2022 21:23:06 GMT
Cheques cleared.
Actually, I expect Meltzer gets paid in hugs from The Young Bucks.
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Post by Blindy on Feb 18, 2022 21:40:30 GMT
How is Miz vs Priest in that Zombie lumberjack match worse than Fiend vs Orton at WM? The former was at least silly and funny, Meltzer has zero sense of humor or awareness whatsoever.
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Post by NATH45 on Feb 18, 2022 22:54:27 GMT
In all seriousness, Keith " Bear Cat " Lee should have been worst gimmick.
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Post by Blindy on Feb 18, 2022 23:33:38 GMT
You know Meltzer is getting paid by AEW on the downlow when he has Alexa Bliss as the worst gimmick of 2021 over Dan Lambert. CMON Dave. This is Cornette inspired for god sakes and Meltzer hates Corny(And vice versa).
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Post by Emperor on Feb 18, 2022 23:58:14 GMT
How on earth is Dan Lambert anywhere near the worst gimmick?
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Post by Emperor on Feb 19, 2022 0:01:33 GMT
Yes in general there is a pro-AEW bias here but I don't see anything on that list that is unreasonable. AEW certainly has a solid claim to being promotion of the year, and All Out as show of the year.
Feud of the Year is more questionable, although the Page vs Omega match had a lot of history behind it, the actual feud itself wasn't that great. Unless he's somehow counting all the Hangman Page backstory as part of that feud, which is clutching at straws.
Looking more closely, it's pretty hilarious how Best Everything is AEW and Worst Everything is WWE. Maybe he is being somewhat unreasonable. Pat McAfee is far and away the best commentator in any promotion. At least he acknowledges Paul Heyman.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2022 0:03:12 GMT
So it isn't just Emp that hates EVIL? Overrated... oh that's a shoot brother.
... indeed.
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Post by Emperor on Feb 19, 2022 0:04:42 GMT
I'm surprised EVIL is classed as overrated; I thought everyone hated him now so he's rated just right. No problem with him appearing there though.
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Post by NATH45 on Feb 19, 2022 0:16:39 GMT
How is Roman Reigns not wrestler of the year?
And how is Corey Graves worst than Tazz?
And Brit Baker, female of the year hands down.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2022 0:17:56 GMT
How is Roman Reigns not wrestler of the year? Lacks Tokyo Dome Sizzle.
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Post by KITN on Feb 19, 2022 0:54:26 GMT
Because most of Reigns' matches are boring.
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Post by Blindy on Feb 19, 2022 1:07:32 GMT
I can't believe he didn't give GUNTHER vs Dragonov any love for their Takeover match. Seems like a match right up his alley, how did he favor that spotfest inside the steel cage between Lucha Bros and Young Bucks. Because the Bucks named one of their moves the Meltzer Driver?
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Post by KITN on Feb 19, 2022 1:42:10 GMT
Okay, you know that the Observer Awards aren't actually Meltzer's, right? They're submitted by readers.
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Post by Big Pete on Feb 19, 2022 2:17:15 GMT
Okay, you know that the Observer Awards aren't actually Meltzer's, right? They're submitted by readers. Certainly worth clarifying but still Meltzer has a huge influence.
I remember Alvarez' coffee table book beating the Andre biography which was one of the best wrestling books ever written.
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Post by NATH45 on Feb 19, 2022 2:43:36 GMT
I can't believe he didn't give GUNTHER vs Dragonov any love for their Takeover match. Seems like a match right up his alley, how did he favor that spotfest inside the steel cage between Lucha Bros and Young Bucks. Because the Bucks named one of their moves the Meltzer Driver? It's the exact opposite. It's Jim Cornette who has repeatedly praised this match, calling it 'what modern wrestling should have evolved into' instead of what AEW delivers.
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Post by Big Pete on Feb 19, 2022 2:50:55 GMT
Meltzer's MotY was Will Ospreay vs. Shingo Takagi from Wrestling Dontaku.
WALTER/Dragunov made Top 10 but was behind The Young Bucks/Lucha Bros Steel Cage, Takagi/Ospreay from NJPW Cup, Syuri/Hayashishita, Takagi/Ishii from G1 & Page/Omega.
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Post by c on Feb 19, 2022 4:23:47 GMT
Did people show Meltzer the ratings information? Clearly no one actually likes AEW and WWE is the only fed people care about. The ratings information proves it right?
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Post by NATH45 on Feb 19, 2022 5:48:52 GMT
Did people show Meltzer the ratings information? Clearly no one actually likes AEW and WWE is the only fed people care about. The ratings information proves it right? You salty because more people watch RAW than Rampage and Dynamite combined?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2022 15:36:53 GMT
I’ve seen the detailed voting results and it’s even more egregious. Kenny Omega had more votes for best draw than Reigns and Lesnar 😂 Nobody really takes this shit seriously though surely
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Post by bodyslam on Feb 19, 2022 17:03:32 GMT
I know is all a work but its also bias and prejudice at its best
personally I think Josh Alexander should have been most improved.
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Post by X-zero on Feb 19, 2022 19:08:29 GMT
If you read the observer your ideals most likely will match Daves's ideas so most aren't surprising. I don't think Jade should have got rookie of the year. Rex Steiner or Hook should have probably should have got that one. Assuming they don't watch 2.0, Hook should have got that one.
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Post by Blindy on Feb 19, 2022 19:15:49 GMT
If you read the observer your ideals most likely will match Daves's ideas so most aren't surprising. I don't think Jade should have got rookie of the year. Rex Steiner or Hook should have probably should have got that one. Assuming they don't watch 2.0, Hook should have got that one. Steiner should get it for 2022, came in middle of 2021. Hook has had like 4 matches, Cargill deserves it over him. Bad Bunny in his 1 match would be in over Hook for the appeal alone had he been full time.
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Post by c on Feb 19, 2022 21:25:51 GMT
Look at the haters not realizing the sheer talent of Hook.
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Post by X-zero on Feb 19, 2022 22:31:50 GMT
Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic of The Year probably should have been renamed if they wanted to give all the bad ones to WWE. They just need to get rid of the word promotional and it would been fine. Because since it is there this one should belong to AEW.
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Post by NATH45 on Feb 20, 2022 0:23:16 GMT
You can't deny his dimwitted logic, Rampage is doing just over 500,000 viewers these days, scoring 1.1 Million for Punk's debut makes him technically correct.
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