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Post by CM Punk'd on Mar 13, 2022 15:48:03 GMT
Some unfortunate news today.
It's been reported that Scott Hall has been put on life support, as a result of a major complication from his hip surgery.
A blood clot came loose, and Hall suffered three heart attacks as a result.
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Post by spladle125 on Mar 13, 2022 15:58:07 GMT
Well he can have a new gimmick and say take a look at the dead guy man! In all do seriousness i heard it’s not looking good at all.
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Post by UT on Mar 13, 2022 16:43:04 GMT
That sucks, really not likely to come back from that. He lived 3 lives - sucks when he was got straight this is what does him in.
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Post by 🤯 on Mar 13, 2022 17:05:36 GMT
Man, first Big E's neck, now this.
Fuuuck this year's Road to WrestleMania.
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Post by RT on Mar 13, 2022 17:25:04 GMT
Not looking good for The Bad Guy. He suffered 3 heart attacks last night after complications during hip surgery.
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Post by Shootist on Mar 13, 2022 17:59:55 GMT
Horrible news after all the shit he's been through. Hopefully he hasn't used all of his 9 lives.
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Post by iron maiden on Mar 13, 2022 19:56:35 GMT
Years of abuse have caught up to him. Still very sad. I don’t know if he’s coming out if this and 63 is still too young.
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Post by Lony on Mar 13, 2022 20:48:54 GMT
Horrible news.
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Post by NATH45 on Mar 14, 2022 8:21:00 GMT
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Post by Big Pete on Mar 14, 2022 10:04:51 GMT
We were talking about the matches we've rewatched the most earlier. I could barely think of 1 and 2. However the amount of times I've gone back and watched Scott Hall shoot clips would be a dozen or so. Last Call For Scott Hall all the different interviews etc. Scott just had an insight to the industry that made it so much more interesting and inspiring to listen to. Scott helped change the face of Pro Wrestling and was one of those guys fans would gravitate towards. As an on-screen character, he was just so entertaining and while he had his struggles in his personal life I'm glad he at least got to enjoy the recognition for a legendary career.
RIP Scott
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Post by RT on Mar 14, 2022 16:43:08 GMT
Had a feeling this was coming considering how people close to the situation were talking on social media. A lot of guys were acting like he was dead already.
Really terrible to go at that age. Especially after he’d finally turned his life around somewhat. RIP
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Post by KING KID on Mar 14, 2022 17:25:36 GMT
When you’re too busy to go on the internet and you see this now is just brutal.
So sad.
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Post by DanTheMan on Mar 14, 2022 18:00:31 GMT
Rip Scott Hall
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Post by pduh on Mar 14, 2022 20:25:09 GMT
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Post by c on Mar 14, 2022 20:36:50 GMT
Tough SOB. There is almost no way he recovers from this, but old bastard could very well live in the end.
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Post by spladle125 on Mar 14, 2022 21:20:51 GMT
Tough SOB. There is almost no way he recovers from this, but old bastard could very well live in the end. Bad times don’t last but bad guys do!
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Post by CM Punk'd on Mar 15, 2022 0:06:16 GMT
He's gone. WWE just confirmed his passing.
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Post by c on Mar 15, 2022 0:40:52 GMT
Malakai Black started his stream to talk about it. He is pretty cut up by it.
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Post by Da Gr8t I Is on Mar 15, 2022 1:25:07 GMT
Rest easy Bad Guy.
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Post by Kilgore on Mar 15, 2022 1:27:16 GMT
A genuine case could be made that Scott Hall is the coolest wrestler who ever lived. Off the charts charisma of cool, just walking out to the ring, or just standing in it, you just look at him and say to yourself, "That guy is so fucking cool." The nWo is the coolest thing to ever happen in wrestling, and Scott Hall was the coolest. Maybe someone could make the case that say, Ric Flair in the '80s, was as cool as Hall, but no one was cooler. Every other wrestler playing for the tie in a battle of cool against Scott Hall. For me, Razor Ramon was his peak as a wrestler, and I feel fortunate that I saw his peak as Razor, in the ladder match at WrestleMania X. But the nWo run is more important, and I would argue that changed an industry as much as anything has changed any industry, and it was in the image of Hall. This huge accomplishment that we all acknowledge, somehow, seems understated. The attitude and swagger of the nWo, the gestures, the lexicon, was all Hall. It's just a gigantic stable of guys all doing a variation of Scott Hall's act. Then you'd turn on Raw, and you'd see DX, another big stable of guys, also all doing a variation of Scott Hall's act. The hottest period of wrestling is just most of the industry trying to be Scott Hall. Also, worth mentioning, Sting is still doing The Crow gimmick Hall handed him, like almost 30 years later lol. Haven't even talked about his wrestling! Favorite working punch, ever. The Razor's Edge, one of the coolest finishers of all time. His Razor moveset was nothing but radio singles, man. The belly to back off the ropes, the fallaway slam, his underrated chokeslam, his version of a discus strike, the disrespectful paintbrushes, this all made him one of the last great squashers, just watch him play the greatest hits on some poor bastard. Every wrestler praises his mind for psychology, and it's kind of a shame he peaked when workrate was judged differently than it is now, as he'd probably have more classics. It's a strange career where he accomplished so much, is one of the best known wrestlers ever, yet it feels like there could have been more for him. Not even in the "he had his demons" way (which there's of course that, too), but just because he thought about wrestling differently, didn't have the same ambition more successful wrestlers had. It's kind of crazy, and enormously endearing, that coming off Razor, this absolutely should be/could be a World Champion gimmick, Hall just wants to make good money tagging with his cool buddy, Big Kev, instead. That was more rewarding to him than getting to call himself champion of a fixed sport. Or being remembered as one after the fact. It reminds me of an Orson Welles interview called The Paris Interview, which was one of his most famous interviews (Orson, another guy that accomplished a lot, but somehow seems less than his capabilities). The interviewer asks Orson: Interviewer: You ever cast a friend instead of the right person for a part? Orson Welles: Frequently. Interviewer: Have you ever regretted it? Orson Welles: Frequently. Interviewer: Would you do it again? Orson Welles: Yes. Because I don't regard art as a prime importance. I prefer every other loyalty in life to art. I hate the romantic conception of art as taking precedence over anything. I think it's the last thing to be considered, always. I certainly would regard friendship as more important than my art. Those people who are serious, are professional, truly and deeply serious at the expense of every other value in life, are probably the people who make the biggest contribution to art. I certainly wouldn't like to be one of them.
Interviewer: Do you believe in the principle of making a contribution? Orson Welles: Yes! Interviewer: Do you think by dividing yourself in this way, you are diffusing your contribution? Orson Welles: Probably. Interviewer: Do you think that's a bad thing? Orson Welles: No. Not a bad thing for me. Might be a bad thing for art, but since I don't regard art as a prime importance ... Interviewer: Then the hell with posterity? Orson Welles: Yes!
Working a fun gimmick with his friends (that just so happens to change wrestling forever) exponentially more important to Hall than trying to claw his way to the top, so antithetical to what's usually celebrated, especially in America, but it's actually a more profound ambition than the more typical idea of "success." And you can see how profound it is in how close that group of friends has remained.
Becoming an addict certainly played a part in Hall never quite reaching the top, too (and also is a contributing factor in many of the worst Scott Hall stories, as there are plenty, this was a very flawed man), but I hold onto the romantic notion that Hall just had some Orson Welles in him, he didn't regard conventional success as a prime importance, the hell with posterity.
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Post by NATH45 on Mar 15, 2022 2:21:55 GMT
Hey Yo.
RIP Bad Guy.
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Post by Baker on Mar 15, 2022 2:33:47 GMT
Have to admit I was never the biggest Razor fan for a variety of weird Baker reasons- Sellout! Being more drawn to his rivals (Razor may actually be underrated as a feud guy). The backstage machinations of the Kliq. Yada yada yada. But I can certainly appreciate the ability and many, many accomplishments of the man. Only a fool would fail to do so. Kilgore nailed it in his beautiful post- Tremendous squasher. Oozed charisma as much as he oozed machismo. Fantastic moveset capped off by an all time great finisher in the Razor's Edge. Changed the game with his memorable Nitro appearance which ultimately lead to the NWO. In addition to all that he was an all time great IC Champ (I personally have him at #2 in WWF/E history) who also deserves credit for helping to popularize the Ladder Match. Plus he had all those iconic taunts and catchphrases which where mid-90s neighborhood staples. Without going too much into it since I explained it in detail once before, Razor's aforementioned too sweet moveset caused a lightbulb to go off one day where my understanding of wrestling psychology leveled up. RIP Bad Guy
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Post by Leper Messiah on Mar 15, 2022 2:47:21 GMT
Sad to see him pass on. A great wrestler, who if he didn't have his demons, might have been able to have a run the World champ in WCW or WWF/E. The real positive in it all was that he at least got sober and lived a pretty life until he passed away.
RIP Bad Guy. If the afterlife exists, hopefully he's entering it this way.
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Post by Gyro LC on Mar 15, 2022 3:08:59 GMT
*flicks toothpick*
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Post by UT on Mar 15, 2022 3:23:58 GMT
As I’ve said before a ton of time , the first wrestling match I remember seeing was Razor/123 Kid with the money on the line. So essentially Razor was a huge part of making me a wrestling fan and putting me here today. Others became my favorites over time and all but he will always hold a special place in my wrestling heart and is often imitated in my house. I simply can’t not use a toothpick without pretending I’m the Bad Guy.
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Post by Shootist on Mar 15, 2022 5:05:14 GMT
Can't really top the posts above me, one of the most dynamic wrestling personalities of all time whether it be his mind, his moveset, his charisma or the way he flipped wrestling on it's head in 1996.I still have the fond memory of my anti-Razor cousin rushing the aisle side seating to smack Razor upside the head at a 1994 live event in Regina. We can dissect how many of his matches didn't live up to the potential of his physical talents but Scott had some of the strongest memorable moments of the last 30 years that will stick with me forever. Losing to Waltman on Raw really helped cement how raw the WWF could get and really planted the seed of anything could happen on a given week. His convincing disruption of Nitro 3 years later made wrestling even more must see and seem even more unpredictable. He was a genius worker in that aspect of the business and more than made up for the lack of 5 star matches he had. He always knew wrestling was much more than that which makes his loss even more impactful as wrestling continues to move away from edge of your seat cliffhanger tv.
RIP
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Post by 🤯 on Mar 15, 2022 12:56:49 GMT
I want Kilgore to write my eulogy one day. The was fucking beautiful, man. 🥲 😭
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Post by UT on Mar 15, 2022 12:57:48 GMT
I want Kilgore to write my eulogy one day. The was fucking beautiful, man. 🥲 😭 I’ll do it. “UT Likes This” Done.
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Post by Ed on Mar 15, 2022 19:00:27 GMT
Yeah, Hulk Hogan made the NWO mainstream but Scott Hall made the faction cool. Bad times don't last, bad guys, do. RIP Scott Hall.
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Post by RT on Mar 15, 2022 19:29:31 GMT
As I’ve said before a ton of time , the first wrestling match I remember seeing was Razor/123 Kid with the money on the line. So essentially Razor was a huge part of making me a wrestling fan and putting me here today. Others became my favorites over time and all but he will always hold a special place in my wrestling heart and is often imitated in my house. I simply can’t not use a toothpick without pretending I’m the Bad Guy. I don’t think there is a wrestling fan alive over the age of 25 that doesn’t immediately think they’re Razor Ramon when they have a toothpick in their mouth. I don’t use them often but it’s the very first thing I think of whenever I pick one up. And I always ALWAYS flick it into the garbage.
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