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Post by thereallt on Mar 16, 2022 2:13:28 GMT
Greatest Titantron ever.
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Post by Shootist on Mar 16, 2022 17:50:29 GMT
Hall also teamed with someone called Punisher Dice Morgan in New Japan in 1990. Wonder whatever happened to Dice?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2022 23:54:29 GMT
They uploaded his youshoot on youtube and youview it.
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Post by RT on Mar 18, 2022 17:17:46 GMT
Ugh. X Pac gave an update. Turns out Hall was back on the bottle. After he broke his hip he was unable to reach a phone and was stuck for days.
It’s behind a paywall on the latest WON, but someone posted this on wreddit:
“ Meltzer writes that Hall’s “closest friends knew this was coming.” Waltman had “called Hall a month ago to come out to stay with him because Hall had been deteriorating for the past two years due to drinking.”
Waltman: “It was hard enough for [Scott] as it was, but he was isolated in his house with no social interaction. He was down to 210 pounds. We called [Dallas Page] and he went over. It was really bad.”
After Hall fell and broke his hip, he “laid there for a few days before friends told Page to check on him since they couldn’t get in contact with him. Page found him and got him to the hospital.””
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Post by Big Pete on Mar 18, 2022 18:30:51 GMT
Not to speak ill of the dead but if you saw his appearance at Wrestlemania and some of his last shoot interviews, he wasn't in a good way. Even before I saw the quotes attributed to Waltmen, I bought the report because there's a moment in the 2021 interview where he's expressing his relief to finally be out of the house. He looked really frail and was not in the shape he was around the time he was inducted in the Hall of Fame and got the WWE DVD release and the Youshoot interview.
There's a few more revealing details about how he never really got over his addictions and would often just hang with the Chasyn Rance's group to keep company and be around the business. It sounds like his life wasn't too different from his Last Call With Scott Hall vlogs.
I think there was this perception that Scott quit drinking and was completely sober but Scott admitted that wasn't the case in his 2016 YouShoot. He stayed out of trouble, but there was an incident that TMZ caught wind of where he was intoxicated at an indie booking. Hall explained that he did his spot earlier in the show, they were supposed to organise some kind of signing or something, nobody set anything up so as a way to get out of the engagement he started drinking which caused the promoter to get police to escort him out.
People can say what they want about Meltzer, his obituary on Hall is a fantastic read and it's nice to read about his earlier pre-WWF Diamond Studd stuff that usually gets glossed over.
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Post by Ed on Mar 18, 2022 18:45:26 GMT
Ugh. X Pac gave an update. Turns out Hall was back on the bottle. After he broke his hip he was unable to reach a phone and was stuck for days. It’s behind a paywall on the latest WON, but someone posted this on wreddit: “ Meltzer writes that Hall’s “closest friends knew this was coming.” Waltman had “called Hall a month ago to come out to stay with him because Hall had been deteriorating for the past two years due to drinking.” Waltman: “It was hard enough for [Scott] as it was, but he was isolated in his house with no social interaction. He was down to 210 pounds. We called [Dallas Page] and he went over. It was really bad.” After Hall fell and broke his hip, he “laid there for a few days before friends told Page to check on him since they couldn’t get in contact with him. Page found him and got him to the hospital.” UGH! I'm heartbroken. :verysad:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2022 20:46:42 GMT
Just gonna give a shoutout to Scott Hall's old youtube series. He watchalong got me to watch Hogan/Warrior in full, even when I tried many times in the past. May be the best basic match ever.
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Post by Ed on Mar 20, 2022 22:40:21 GMT
They uploaded his youshoot on youtube and youview it. I never knew Scott Hall was so down to earth. :verysad:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2022 22:43:41 GMT
He's so down to earth he's in the earth now.
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Post by KITN on Mar 20, 2022 22:48:53 GMT
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Post by Ed on Mar 20, 2022 22:51:21 GMT
He's so down to earth he's in the earth now. Classic Ness response. I expected no less. :ness:@ness,
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Post by Emperor on Mar 21, 2022 0:30:53 GMT
I watched this at the time you posted it but forgot to comment. I watched the squash match again today. It's wonderful. It's unprecedented for a young lion to beat any non-young lion, even the jobberiest of jobbers, so for young lion Tanahashi to pin Scott Hall is unfathomable. Although I notice Tanahashi is not wearing the black tights, and he had already been wrestling for a year or two since he debuted in 1999, so was he a true young lion at that time? Still, incredible thing for Scott Hall to agree to do. To be honest I've not watched many of his matches, but watching him beat up Tanahashi is amazing. He has technique, he has style, he's just so naturally cool and owns his gimmick. It's very clear he just gets pro-wrestling. Also really makes me want to watch Scott Hall vs Keiji Mutoh, which I assume happened shortly after that.
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Post by Big Pete on Mar 21, 2022 4:19:46 GMT
It's funny because Hall was often criticised for doing those kinds of jobs. He lost to Hector Garza and Chris Jericho in similar fashion on Nitro but since they never really capitilised on it or they had Hall get his heat back after the match.
I forget where I heard about Hall putting Tanahashi over but I do remember raising it to Baker either on here or on the old boards.
I also want to walk back the Meltzer obituary. It's an interesting read, but Dave is pretty spiteful and lacks a lot of decorum. Comes off like now that Hall is dead, Meltzer is going to set the record straight on things that didn't need to be raised in relation to his death.
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Post by Kilgore on Mar 21, 2022 7:06:09 GMT
It had to be one of the 400 Nash shoots where I heard the story that Hogan, transitioning into Hollywood Hogan, being a heel for the first time in a decade+, being invincible much of the run, basically asked Hall and Nash how to lose, or at the very least, how to look weak, yet still remain credible. I love thinking about this moment, a vulnerable Hogan, really doesn't know how to do jobs, it had been so long. But Hall answered, simply, brilliantly, "You just lose. Then you go out the next time and pretend you won, deny that the loss ever happened, which gets you even more heat." This mentality is such a great encapsulation of the Hall mindset, who had so much confidence in his overness, he'd do the surprise putting over gimmick so many times. It truly didn't matter if he lost, not in his mind, not in reality, he'd just show up the next time with the same swagger, and still be Scott fucking Hall.
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