Often I hear the term system systemic racism tossed out.  Sometimes seemingly offhandedly like it just happened in the Diversity thread in reference to an advert.  But arguably more importantly I have heard it in the terms of the western prison system and police forces.  And to get rather Ben Shapiro right away, let me clearly state I am against racism.  If you find a system that is truly racist I will fight with you side by side.  I am not denying there are racists out there or that there is indeed racism out there or even in here.  But to call an entire system racist does demand some burden of proof.  There are racist police officers out there.  But to say the entire nation's police force is systemic racist is a higher hurdle.  Now, let's jump down the rabbit hole.

A while ago I posted a thread questioning whether or not Crossfit was systemically racist.  Because in some respects some of the arguments to say systems are racist seem to fit.  My other line of thinking similar to this is questioning whether or not taxed and licensed marijuana sales are systemically racist.  In brief, licensed and taxed marijuana sales make it cost prohibitive for lower income, inner city minorities to have access to legal marijuana.  The whites get access and the blacks and Hispanics continue to be arrested and put in the prison system for marijuana charges.  This is already happening in places like Colorado.  A legal permit to sell pot is too expensive for most inner city neighborhoods and the difference in price between taxed marijuana and black market marijuana is significant enough for people to make the choice buy illegally.  This to me is a reason to push to decriminalize not tax the ganj.  But that is a different kettle of fish.  It may be racist, but I can't support that it was the direct intent.

Commonly I hear that the prisons are systemically racist.  Mostly due to the demographics of the people in the prisons.  It is also entirely possible that these demographics are also the ones getting caught committing crimes.  Let's get twisted.  The overwhelming majority of people in prisons are men.  Under the same basis would it be as safe to say the prison system is systemically sexist against men?  The income of prison owners may benefit over the fact that certain people are arrested and convicted more than others but the prison system can't make the criminals commit crimes in the first place.  For every one person in the prison system, there is someone not in the prison system.  The chief difference is often, not always, the criminality of the person.  The best way to stop a systemically racist prison system is to just to boycott crime.

The police I think is a different situation.  It may sound like I can go to the same well but I am not going to.   I will say that there is an inarguable truth to the notion that some police officers are racist.  But I have not seen proof that says there is a system of racism that sweeps through anywhere near a nation of police to show they are racist by design.  If there is, I would like to see some ideas of reforms.  

To decry systemic racism is often unchallenged and unchecked.  To say something is systemically racist seems to be a cheap gimme that people toss out because anyone who opposes can easily be called a racist too.  Sometimes just for challenging someone crying that something is systemically racist you will be labelled racist.   But can anyone show me that there is a system of racism in adverts, the US prison system, or the American police force.  Or any other large scale scale systems of racism in the US that we can band together and fight against?

I think you're spot on towards the end theend , there's buzzwords, or go-to words that are thrown around and are used to eliminate opposition or debate. And I think that's an issue in itself. If someone wishes to have a conversation, allow the rebuttal. It's only fair.

And this is happening regarding a number of issues - putting all the looney lefty gender politics aside - there's a global Neo-feminism trend, yet one shouldn't be a called a misogynist because they dare speak about men's issues, or how academically and emotionally boys are being left behind. 

To say, old white men sit in a room and decide the fate of a minority group is crazy. Does it exist in private organizations, yeah, no doubt. Yet, Nationally or internationally, pfft. No. 

But what we're talking about is largely 'culture' rather than color. I'm an Australian, and I'm sure this happens in the US - immigrants arrive with little to nothing, including education, they work menial jobs for 12 hrs a day - yet fortunately in AU, there exists some fantastic penalty rates. They work, save, slowly build wealth and usually it's their kids who benefit the most later on.

At the same time, there's Australian-born citizens including white, black and any range of color or race who do very little - they don't work, don't want to work or make very little effort to do much at all outside of petty crime and meth. They rely on benefits, pensions, public housing to survive, etc. Regardless of color, these people will never eat in nice restaurants, or have nice things.. but that doesn't mean Crossfit is systematically racist, or are nice coffee shops or any other goods or service or activity that usually requires some sort of disposable income. It simply means they can't afford it, and business will go where the money is.