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Post by NATH45 on Sept 24, 2022 0:19:41 GMT
Feel good moment of the year.
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Post by X-zero on Sept 24, 2022 0:25:27 GMT
It was really a good moment. I was hoping it would go that way, and brought a smile to my face when it did.
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Post by X-zero on Sept 24, 2022 0:42:41 GMT
Sami gots some real support now.
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Post by RT on Sept 24, 2022 14:57:01 GMT
Not me about to cry when Sami Zayn got his new shirt.
I’m never going to forgive Roman if he betrays him. Never.
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Post by Emperor on Sept 24, 2022 17:17:25 GMT
Someone give me the cliff notes on Sami Zayn/Roman Reigns. I'm intrigued.
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Post by Emperor on Sept 24, 2022 21:34:27 GMT
Come jTjohncenaGOAT, I thought you paid more attention to WWE than that. I need a vintage Big Pete rundown in here.
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Post by NATH45 on Sept 24, 2022 22:17:24 GMT
He's basically weaseled his way into the group by being their lacky and taking the fall a few times.
But long term storytelling : it's creating a riff between The Usos. Remembering there was already tension amongst them going back a few years to the beginning of the storyline.
I'm still convinced Sami will turn on them. The Bloodline will outnumber 5 to 3 babyfaces and Sami will cross no man's land and join the good guys. They did a fantastic angle in NXTUK with Dragunov being groomed for Imperium and he'd turn to side with Gallus. I think that is what will happen here.
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Post by Michinokudriver on Sept 25, 2022 5:40:16 GMT
Yeah, I'm not exactly sure how/when Sami first tried getting in with the Bloodline but he's essentially been a groupie/tagalong for months now. Zayn was originally a loudmouthed cowardly heel who talked big when (he thought) the Bloodline had his back but was the first to run -- but in recent weeks has been right there taking his lumps for the faction.
In an inspired bit, Creative made the call to have Jimmy like him but Jey absolutely despise him. (Possibly related: Jey was the first one to ally with heel Roman and was the Right Hand Man when Jimmy was out injured. Maybe feels threatened?)
The new guy, Solo Sikoa/Usos' younger brother, seems all in on Sami so for now it seems that, unlikely as it is, Sami Zayn has been fully accepted as an Honorary Uce.
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Post by NATH45 on Sept 25, 2022 7:11:30 GMT
Very smart creative to release a 'honorary uce' shirt. I'd imagine it won't be long until half the audience is wearing one.
The new Bloodline shirt is also great.
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Post by mikec on Sept 26, 2022 0:17:26 GMT
Very smart creative to release a 'honorary uce' shirt. I'd imagine it won't be long until half the audience is wearing one. The new Bloodline shirt is also great. I barely watch and don’t know anyone else that does watch and have no interest in explaining it yet I have considered buying this one.
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Post by mikec on Sept 26, 2022 2:22:52 GMT
9 minutes of great storytelling. SD! Got 2.5 million viewers this week, BTW. I hadn’t seen that, but it was wonderful.
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Post by Emperor on Sept 26, 2022 10:20:59 GMT
That sounds incredible jTjohncenaGOAT. Lovely to see some nuanced long term storytelling in WWE. Will check out that video after work. Don't know who Solo is either, guess he's the guy who interfered to help Roman beat Drew McIntyre? Funny you say Sami's role is to stand back and shut up, that seems like the last thing Sami is able to do. He's a motormouth!
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Post by NATH45 on Sept 26, 2022 10:56:40 GMT
Does this mean The Bloodline are babyfaces now?
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Post by Emperor on Sept 26, 2022 18:35:14 GMT
I can't watch jTjohncenaGOAT's video because it's region locked. Fortunately WWE have a YouTube playlist of the cliffnotes which I have been thoroughly enjoying. This dates all the way back to April! Wow! Unfortunately the WWE playlist was made in June, so there's still several months of content I had to research on YouTube one video at a time. The segment from last Friday was amazing. Sami Zayn was so incredibly crushed, I was feeling for him. Then he got given the new shirt...yes! Interesting that Jey still hates him, even though the rest of the tribe have acknowledged him. I also love the dynamic that Jimmy loves Sami, Jey hates him, yet this doesn't impact the relationship between the Usos at all. They respect each other's differences. However taking a different perspective, we know that the segment was written that way for maximum dramatic tension, but take that away and it doesn't make much sense. What's the kayfabe explanation for Roman Reigns baiting and switching Sami like that? Why didn't he just give Sami the new shirt after he asked Solo to acknowledge him? He could have done the same thing thing to Solo - "The elders sent you, but I don't accept you, get the fuck out." before welcoming him back in. Why treat one person one way and the other person the other way? I can't think of an in-kayfabe explanation.
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Post by NATH45 on Sept 26, 2022 20:37:27 GMT
jTjohncenaGOAT because Sami is a complete outsider, Reigns was likely (from a kayfabe perspective) testing his response. And it's not uncommon for guys just to be pricks. You could imagine that same scenario in a biker setting, a probate being told to take his proby patch off in dramatic fashion, then given his full cut.
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Post by Emperor on Sept 26, 2022 20:45:01 GMT
That makes sense, thanks NATH45. Just to clarify, it was a phenomenal segment regardless, I don't intend to undermine that, my overthinking brain just goes in strange directions sometimes :lol:
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Post by NATH45 on Sept 26, 2022 22:15:45 GMT
And look eventually The Bloodline will turn on Sami. Either at their own hands, or will feed him to someone like Brock Lesnar - who will destroy him.
And that potentially could lead to the downfall of The Bloodline. Uso #1, Solo and Reigns may do it themselves, or get some joy out if seeing Sami eaten alive, while Uso #2 is a gutted seeing his buddy sacrificed.
Either way, Sami becomes the biggest sympathetic babyface of his generation as a result.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2022 22:37:05 GMT
Dude I so want Sami to just be Nation Kid all growed up.
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Post by NATH45 on Sept 27, 2022 4:06:04 GMT
And look eventually The Bloodline will turn on Sami. Either at their own hands, or will feed him to someone like Brock Lesnar - who will destroy him. And that potentially could lead to the downfall of The Bloodline. Uso #1, Solo and Reigns may do it themselves, or get some joy out if seeing Sami eaten alive, while Uso #2 is a gutted seeing his buddy sacrificed. Either way, Sami becomes the biggest sympathetic babyface of his generation as a result. I never thought of this as being Sami being the catalyst that would break up the BL. I always assumed this is the first step in Sami/Owens getting the tag titles. What if it’s the first step in Sami/Roman and the end of the BL? My other thoughts were (and, we're getting into fantasy booking here) is that Sami is a plant by KO, to eventually unravel The Bloodline from within and will turn on Reigns to give KO the assist. Think of the dynamic in the group if one of the Usos is convinced Sami is a turncoat and, the when the smoke clears and the dust settles after a wild Bloodline v Babyface brawl and then Sami comes charging to the ring - picture this, KO in one corner, Reigns in the other - who will he side with? Bang! Helluva Kick to Roman, Irish Whip, Stunner.. new Champion in KO.
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Post by c on Sept 27, 2022 6:29:09 GMT
Sami is not really built to be world champion in the one belt WWE. He could take the title but his reign would not be long or really meaningful. This story gives him a program at the top though, which is better than he has gotten so far from WWE.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2022 21:06:49 GMT
Makes me wish djm still posted or even followed wrestling still. In the Generisteen war he was always pro-Generico so it'd be nice if he got a win.
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Post by 🤯 on Sept 27, 2022 21:09:27 GMT
Makes me wish djm still posted or even followed wrestling still. In the Generisteen war he was always pro-Generico so it'd be nice if he got a win. Any chance you can pull him back in? 🤔
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2022 21:10:29 GMT
Makes me wish djm still posted or even followed wrestling still. In the Generisteen war he was always pro-Generico so it'd be nice if he got a win. Any chance you can pull him back in? 🤔 You just trying to line him up as a guest for season 2!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2022 21:45:31 GMT
I saw him on Twitter a few months ago, but I don't follow him! And I can't remember his @!
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Post by Ed on Sept 30, 2022 17:40:41 GMT
Makes me wish djm still posted or even followed wrestling still. In the Generisteen war, he was always pro-Generico so it'd be nice if he got a win. Any chance you can pull him back in? 🤔 I'm friends with him on Facebook. I can try to reach him soon.
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Post by Emperor on Oct 11, 2022 13:27:13 GMT
That segment on Raw was killer. Sami is hilarious and everybody loves him, rightfully so.
Starting to feel bad for poor Jey Uso.
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Post by Emperor on Oct 14, 2022 13:03:17 GMT
Just sharing a beautiful work of art.
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Post by NATH45 on Oct 15, 2022 0:10:16 GMT
Sami has done something no one else over the last 15 years could... distinguish for the fans which one is Jimmy and which one is Jey.
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Post by Ed on Oct 17, 2022 15:12:43 GMT
Why is Jay so angry all the time? be cool, man.
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Post by KING KID on Oct 17, 2022 16:08:10 GMT
There isn’t a better storyline in wrestling right now than Roman / Sami. Absolutely stunning storytelling. Agreed.
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