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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2023 1:00:12 GMT
Maybe if he did buy it he would gain access to an actual HR dept.
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Post by c on Jan 15, 2023 1:33:53 GMT
I love how the mere notion that Tony could buy WWE is making people rage out.
As if Tony is worse than a Saudi prince. Or a TV exec who would likely demand a rebrand that includes rebranding the characters.
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Post by NATH45 on Jan 15, 2023 2:51:57 GMT
I love how you believe absolutely everything you read on reddit then twist it and distort it to make your otherwise baseless point.
But then again, it might be the only way TK sees a million viewers and something higher than a 0.3 in the demo.
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Post by c on Jan 15, 2023 4:05:32 GMT
Ok, post your evidence that Tony is not interested in buying WWE or lacks the means to get it with an investor.
And you trash Tony, but WWE is averaging between .4 and .6 in key demo despite being paid about 4 times what AEW is per show. .3 at 25% the cost is very strong.
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Post by KITN on Jan 15, 2023 4:35:39 GMT
Okay, but TK buying the WWE is objectively the funniest option.
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Post by c on Jan 15, 2023 5:32:18 GMT
Him and the Saudi's are the only idiots who would try to get it at full value. Vince already was turned down from the rest in the past.
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Post by NATH45 on Jan 15, 2023 6:24:46 GMT
Ok, post your evidence that Tony is not interested in buying WWE or lacks the means to get it with an investor. And you trash Tony, but WWE is averaging between .4 and .6 in key demo despite being paid about 4 times what AEW is per show. .3 at 25% the cost is very strong. It's your " fly on the wall " conviction behind everything you copy/paste that suggest you're in the know, when it's in fact little more than pure speculation. " I was there.. Tony did a line and hit up Dad for the cash. It's a done deal. " Of course Tony is interested. He's likely watching this entire ordeal closer than anyone else outside of the WWE. The WWE sale sets the price for AEW. With WWE, you're not buying a promotion that barely operates outside of the East Coast and pulls in less than 1.5 million viewers collectively across two television shows, you're purchasing a global multimedia empire that reaches over a billion viewers globally every week. So yeah, you're paying for that. As a television product (you're probably still paying too much) your network is paying for an association with a globally recognised brand and image. You're paying for the magnitude of cross-promotional opportunities and commitments. You're also paying for the key demo win : tvline.com/2023/01/14/tv-ratings-swat-season-6/ and the potential for the associated advertising revenue. Let's say WWE is worth the $8.5 Billion as rumoured - AEW has maybe a 5th of the global reach of WWE, if that. Domestically, it has approx. 36% of the weekly television audience of WWE comparing to the two major shows of each company. And unlike WWE, it's heavily in the red due to a video-game most likely to never see more than a few hundred thousand unit's sold. That and WWE has 8 divisions outside of the " WWE " wrestling product - as well as 10 or so subsidiaries. It's a monster of the business. If all of that is worth a crisp $8.5 Billion, then AEW with it's " ROH " build-a-brand playset and debt carrying video game is worth what? Maybe the $400 Million it's been rumoured to be worth.
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Post by c on Jan 15, 2023 7:45:21 GMT
So your source is basically nothing but personal speculation build on a bias that Tony cannot run a company because you do not like AEW.
I always say, the news comes from other people. And give the links when wanted. You are the one who has issues with people reporting things if you dislike what they are saying.
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Post by NATH45 on Jan 15, 2023 8:05:48 GMT
You have a pretty spectacular record of posting baseless opinion pieces disguised as fact regardless of the topic.
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Post by kingoftheworld on Jan 15, 2023 10:48:46 GMT
Since reddit’s been mentioned, I read a comment that Vince would rather blow himself up than sell his company to a (smaller) rival.
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Post by c on Jan 15, 2023 11:12:44 GMT
You have a pretty spectacular record of posting baseless opinion pieces disguised as fact regardless of the topic. You still are butthurt that Australia schools had issues with their heating that was amplified by leaving windows open for COVID? Really? I did not cause the COVID lockdowns or make kids have to have blankets in schools over there.
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Post by NATH45 on Jan 15, 2023 11:56:11 GMT
You have a pretty spectacular record of posting baseless opinion pieces disguised as fact regardless of the topic. You still are butthurt that Australia schools had issues with their heating that was amplified by leaving windows open for COVID? Really? I did not cause the COVID lockdowns or make kids have to have blankets in schools over there. lol. Champ, you're routinely called out for your bullshit, and you know it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2023 12:06:12 GMT
I do wonder how much money Tony would have to pony up for Vince to be willing to let him decide/win how the business dies out. I've often thought that's the main criteria for him sticking around this long... like hell he's gonna let anyone else decide how the business goes down. Because after he dies and depending on the events AEW could decide what the business is going forward. He'd rather kill it with poison... oh shit.
NWO COMING BACK!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2023 12:17:57 GMT
It’s one of those situations where the story being out there makes sense for both sides. For AEW it improves outside perception by getting their name out for publicity. For WWE it drives the price up. The story being true makes little sense for either side in my opinion, but we’ll see.
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Post by c on Jan 15, 2023 12:18:05 GMT
Tony would have to pay the full asking price. That is the only way he gets it. There will be no negotiation most likely for most likely since Vince really does not want him to end up with it. But Vince will not likely turn down 9 billion because competition would own his product.
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Post by c on Jan 15, 2023 12:30:26 GMT
It’s one of those situations where the story being out there makes sense for both sides. For AEW it improves outside perception by getting their name out for publicity. For WWE it drives the price up. The story being true makes little sense for either side in my opinion, but we’ll see. It would be idiotic to assume Tony does not REALLY want WWE. I mean ultimately he wants to be Vince. The question is, can he get the cash. And you are right, Vince can say look at AEW, they want to buy the company, so there is interest, and if others do not want to pay what Vince wants, he can just sell to Tony. Would not be shocked at all if Vince himself leaked the Saudi story get rumors going too for the same reason. /// One thing that makes this very difficult on Tony, is I do not think the estimated cost includes buying out the class B stock holders, only the class A ones. So company will remain public. That is something that Tony is not ready for IMO. And he cannot afford to buy the company and then buyout the stock, nor would most reasonable investors back him taking the company private.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2023 12:32:21 GMT
Vince learned from Randy constantly posting "be the elite?" cryptic posts around renewal time lol.
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Post by c on Jan 15, 2023 12:41:45 GMT
One name not being discussed is TenCent. They easily can afford WWE, have streaming platforms and make heavy investments in entertainment. Owning WWE could allow them to push WeTV to the west as well.
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Post by NATH45 on Jan 15, 2023 22:48:21 GMT
Realistically does anyone want a AEW purchase? It takes us back to 2002, with monopoly running the American scene. As opportunist as it looks for dream scenarios, it likely reduces opportunity for young talent or sees a series of mass releases on both the AEW and WWE sides.
AEW (warts and all) is a worker's alternative to WWE. It's like K-Mart buying Wall-Mart to build a superstore.. there's only so many jobs available. And even if TK is loose with the contracts and is happy with a big roster, how much of it is meaningful employment? The mid-card is sure going to get fat sitting in catering every week while the dream match scenarios occupy the next 5 years.
Best case scenario is it floods IMPACT, NJPW and the independents with talent and we see a resurgence at that level.
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Post by c on Jan 15, 2023 23:00:56 GMT
AEW would put the library into the hands of a wrestling fan. Most other solutions sees the library mostly buried.
I agree with you here though, someone else should buy it, and hire the current agents to run it to keep competition going. I would prefer two shows on TV, as we all seen what happens when WWE has no competition. It gets painful. AEW coming up pushed WWE to get their shit together and start to really push a good product again. AEW had Mox as champ, but WWE had Reigns who they smartly promoted as an unstoppable beast, so when you compared champs, it was clear who was better.
Both AEW and WWE likely to make deep cuts next year. AEW has to thin that roster when contracts are up now RoH is unlikely to get a TV deal, and anyone who buys WWE unless they are a wrestling fan, will likely thin the roster down so they are not paying people to sit home while waiting for an angle. Likely they will also cut developmental and just pouch AEW.
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Post by CM Punk'd on Jan 17, 2023 23:31:49 GMT
AEW would put the library into the hands of a wrestling fan. Most other solutions sees the library mostly buried. I agree with you here though, someone else should buy it, and hire the current agents to run it to keep competition going. I would prefer two shows on TV, as we all seen what happens when WWE has no competition. It gets painful. AEW coming up pushed WWE to get their shit together and start to really push a good product again. AEW had Mox as champ, but WWE had Reigns who they smartly promoted as an unstoppable beast, so when you compared champs, it was clear who was better. Both AEW and WWE likely to make deep cuts next year. AEW has to thin that roster when contracts are up now RoH is unlikely to get a TV deal, and anyone who buys WWE unless they are a wrestling fan, will likely thin the roster down so they are not paying people to sit home while waiting for an angle. Likely they will also cut developmental and just pouch AEW. You think Khan would pay to get the music licenses, so we'd get these shows as they originally aired?
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Post by c on Jan 18, 2023 0:23:28 GMT
Absolutely not. The cost for that would be more than the library.
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Post by spladle125 on Jan 18, 2023 0:40:08 GMT
Vince already suggested creative changes. Vince needs to make his return and sing this song telling everyone to stand back lol.
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Post by NATH45 on Jan 18, 2023 1:21:36 GMT
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Post by NATH45 on Jan 19, 2023 21:04:27 GMT
The Wall Street Journal reports Vince McMahon has reached a multimillion dollar legal settlement with Rita Chatterton, a former female referee who accused him of r*pe back in 1986.
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Post by Jake on Jan 23, 2023 16:54:50 GMT
I think the Saudis have moved on from WWE, and have focused their attention to Formula 1.
Apparently made an offer to Liberty Media, in worth of £20 billion.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2023 16:57:53 GMT
They right swiped and it's up to WWE to carry the conversation if they wanna get with a HVM like the Saudis.
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Post by c on Feb 6, 2023 20:48:48 GMT
Tony said if WWE plans a public sale process he is looking into getting involved depending on the stipulations. He currently is not sure if WWE will allow him to buy the company.
Whether or not he buys the company, his mere interest increases the value of WWE as they can always tell other companies, pay this or we just sell to Tony.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2023 20:52:57 GMT
Just like Orton posting all elite shit to get a better contract. Tony is the best WWE employee.
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Post by c on Feb 6, 2023 21:00:07 GMT
Pretty sure in the end it will be Tony who buys WWE. No one else is really interested in it at the price WWE wants. It sounds like WWE wants half of what the Warner Brothers deal closed for and a third of what the Fox deal closed for. They are not worth that price at all.
Current groups they are pitching to are:
Comcast, Fox, Disney, Warner Bros. Discovery, Netflix, Amazon, Endeavor Group Holdings and Liberty Media.
If Warner buys it, Tony will likely be put in charge.
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