…. DA BEARS!

What are you doing with that #1 pick? What are you doing with Fields? Basically the poll is the second question. Who are you putting your future on? 

After all those years of missing out on stars with draft picks, you are either making history or continuing it. 

You know their situation and what they could do. I don’t need to explain it. It’s on you. 

What would you do if your son was at home, crying all over the bedroom floor cuz he’s hungry and the only way to feed him is to make this pick right to keep making money? And now Daddy (Aaron Rodgers) gone, Jettas holding Kirk down, Detroit looking tuff now.

Let’s make this a good time, but for you this is what I call life.  

Life. 

Keep Fields, trade #1 pick for tons of picks to fill many other needs.

Draft Bryce Young AS LONG AS you are trading Justin Fields for a package led by a 1st round pick.

1) Justin Fields is going to year 3 of his rookie deal while Bryce Young will be under control for 5 years of cost value
2) Justin Fields was inherited by a previous regime, new GM and new HC will get more time under Bryce Young
3) The draft asset of an additional 1st can go to a WR or OL to allow Bryce Young to work, Bryce Young might not be the runner Fields is but he is insanely mobile so he can make average OLine play look better in comparison.

It comes down to how high you are as a franchise on Bryce Young. I will say the locker room will be shocked if Fields is traded but the minute Bryce Young performs well if at all, that will be silenced.

Feb 22, 2023 1:44:07 GMT Gyro LC said:

Keep Fields, trade #1 pick for tons of picks to fill many other needs.

Trading down with the Colts is a common thought which makes a lot of sense because Indy would want to get ahead of Houston to pick the QB. At #4 they can still get Carter/Anderson, and that trade should net them a 2024 first which means they'd be in position to take a QB in a potentially better class then if Fields fails to take another step forward this season. 

Arguments to be made for both scenarios. Depends on of course what is the trade value of Fields, vs what can they get for #1 overall?

I tend to lean towards Gyro and HRs thoughts. Fields pretty much had zero support this past season.

Feb 22, 2023 2:36:41 GMT @admin said:

Feb 22, 2023 1:44:07 GMT Gyro LC said:

Keep Fields, trade #1 pick for tons of picks to fill many other needs.

Trading down with the Colts is a common thought which makes a lot of sense because Indy would want to get ahead of Houston to pick the QB. At #4 they can still get Carter/Anderson, and that trade should net them a 2024 first which means they'd be in position to take a QB in a potentially better class then if Fields fails to take another step forward this season. 

Which QB excluding Caleb Williams is going to be a lock for the 1st round much less the top 10? Spencer Rattler who will be in his mid 20's by the time he comes to the NFL? 

Feel like there's two QBs a pack above the rest here, but there's one guy who you need to have the worst record for and everybody else after that. 

Feb 22, 2023 1:44:07 GMT Gyro LC said:

Keep Fields, trade #1 pick for tons of picks to fill many other needs.

I hate to advise any good strategies for da bears, but 100% this. Finally found not just a competent QB but one with great potential and upside, only to trade him away for a completely unproven asset after Fields' best outing?

On second thought, that would be a very Bears thing to do.

Feb 22, 2023 18:53:49 GMT Foos said:

I tend to lean towards Gyro and HRs thoughts. Fields pretty much had zero support this past season.

The one big obstacle to the support issue is the lack of wide receivers available. I think this informed the much maligned Chase Claypool trade. There isn't a top 10 guy in the draft, and the available FA are thin on the ground. 

Feb 22, 2023 19:01:14 GMT Blindy said:

Feb 22, 2023 2:36:41 GMT @admin said:

Trading down with the Colts is a common thought which makes a lot of sense because Indy would want to get ahead of Houston to pick the QB. At #4 they can still get Carter/Anderson, and that trade should net them a 2024 first which means they'd be in position to take a QB in a potentially better class then if Fields fails to take another step forward this season. 

Which QB excluding Caleb Williams is going to be a lock for the 1st round much less the top 10? Spencer Rattler who will be in his mid 20's by the time he comes to the NFL? 

Feel like there's two QBs a pack above the rest here, but there's one guy who you need to have the worst record for and everybody else after that. 

I've seen Williams and Drake Maye rated above both Young and Stroud. And obviously a lot can happen in a year but there are the high upside guys like Quinn Ewers and Shedeur Sanders.

I don't believe Bryce Young is so much better than Justin Fields. So keep Fields & build around him with draft picks.

If you find a team that has A) players you need and B) picks they are willing to give up, you trade the #1 overall pick and take everything you can.

You know what you have with Fields. You don't know what you have with Bryce Young. It's like the mystery box on Family Guy:

"Hold on, Lois. Justin Fields is Justin Fields, but Bryce Young could be anything! He could even be Justin Fields!"

There are plenty of teams that are willing to give up assets to draft a potentially great QB. Deal with one of them, take their 1st round pick, 2nd round pick, 4th round pick and whatever players they are willing to give up, then go from there and bet on the guy that had a breakout season for you on a dogshit team.

Feb 23, 2023 0:24:00 GMT RT said:

If you find a team that has A) players you need and B) picks they are willing to give up, you trade the #1 overall pick and take everything you can.

You know what you have with Fields. You don't know what you have with Bryce Young. It's like the mystery box on Family Guy:

"Hold on, Lois. Justin Fields is Justin Fields, but Bryce Young could be anything! He could even be Justin Fields!"

There are plenty of teams that are willing to give up assets to draft a potentially great QB. Deal with one of them, take their 1st round pick, 2nd round pick, 4th round pick and whatever players they are willing to give up, then go from there and bet on the guy that had a breakout season for you on a dogshit team.

I agree with your post in general but I would argue that they don't know what they have with Fields yet as a passer. He only had 300 attempts last season, less than Baker Mayfield! He is basically Jalen Hurts of this time last year.

Feb 22, 2023 23:10:43 GMT @admin said:

Feb 22, 2023 18:53:49 GMT Foos said:

I tend to lean towards Gyro and HRs thoughts. Fields pretty much had zero support this past season.

The one big obstacle to the support issue is the lack of wide receivers available. I think this informed the much maligned Chase Claypool trade. There isn't a top 10 guy in the draft, and the available FA are thin on the ground. 

Feb 22, 2023 19:01:14 GMT Blindy said:

Which QB excluding Caleb Williams is going to be a lock for the 1st round much less the top 10? Spencer Rattler who will be in his mid 20's by the time he comes to the NFL? 

Feel like there's two QBs a pack above the rest here, but there's one guy who you need to have the worst record for and everybody else after that. 

I've seen Williams and Drake Maye rated above both Young and Stroud. And obviously a lot can happen in a year but there are the high upside guys like Quinn Ewers and Shedeur Sanders.

Maye and Ewers give serious upside, I agree but Sam Howell was considered a 1st round lock heading into 2021 and he fell all the way to round 5 after a poor final season at UNC once the talent left him. It is such a roll of the dice when it comes to that, banking on guys to live up to the acclaim for the next season.

You also get the risers like a Joe Burrow who went 1st despite the entire year being "Suck for Tua". That particular draft class was considered a dud going into the year and now you've got 4 really good QBs out of that, two of whom have played in a super bowl. 

If you truly love a QB and think the world of him, you gotta do it. Especially if you pick 1st and where you don't have to give draft capital to do so. Fields was a Nagy/Ryan Pace pick and even though he put up very good fantasy football stats and was a good runner, he also has yet to win a cold weather game(Saw this stat on twitter and was stunned, makes me understand why Fields recently said he'd like to play in a dome asap with the Soldier Field renovation) so I am not sure how much of that is on Fields or how much is it on the supporting cast. 

You also get 2 years of additional time and yeah Bryce Young nor CJ Stroud are surefire things but you can say that about any prospect. Will Anderson could be JaDaveon Clowney 2.0 and let the hype get to his head or Jalen Carter could very well be a product of the UGA system(Not that I agree with either). 

By the time the Bears have righted the ship, even in today's NFL, Fields will be in line for contractual talks. And given Daniel Jones is banging the desk for 45 mill a year, Fields is going to try and cash in if he's at all worth the weight. 

Again I would not give Fields away but everyone's hungry for a QB and if say Carolina or the Raiders are willing to throw a package led by a 1st+, why not? 

The cold weather stat is completely meaningless, he's won 5 games total over the past couple of seasons, they've just been a bad team.

I think it's very transparent that your take on Fields is influenced by the fact that the Jets chose Zach Wilson over him.

I think the first pick has more value than Fields so I’d trade that, especially since it doesn’t sound like either of the top QB’s in this draft come without questions. The only advantage I’ve seen so far is that the Bears can reset their clock on having a rookie QB contract, but they can do that whenever they want. They’re not obligated to pay him if he’s not good.

If the Bears think that the QB they’d get at number one is better than Justin Fields, I suppose it’s worth the “you can have either, what would you give for Fields?” convo, but I’ve not seen anything that makes me believe Young is a sure fire better than Fields guy.

Feb 23, 2023 4:17:58 GMT @admin said:

The cold weather stat is completely meaningless, he's won 5 games total over the past couple of seasons, they've just been a bad team.

I think it's very transparent that your take on Fields is influenced by the fact that the Jets chose Zach Wilson over him.

Not at all, I don't dislike Fields but he isn't some surefire can't miss QB either. He's barely done anything in the league to even go off of. This is the same hype I heard of Mac Jones after his 1st year. Next year he was fending off Bailey Zappe from losing his gig. 

Feb 23, 2023 17:56:31 GMT mikec said:

I think the first pick has more value than Fields so I’d trade that, especially since it doesn’t sound like either of the top QB’s in this draft come without questions. The only advantage I’ve seen so far is that the Bears can reset their clock on having a rookie QB contract, but they can do that whenever they want. They’re not obligated to pay him if he’s not good.

If the Bears think that the QB they’d get at number one is better than Justin Fields, I suppose it’s worth the “you can have either, what would you give for Fields?” convo, but I’ve not seen anything that makes me believe Young is a sure fire better than Fields guy.

Quicker release of the ball, multiple reads are what would go in Young's advantage. Fields has the size and NFL proven running ability over Young. The catch 22 is that Fields has the "His supporting cast sucks" thing going for him that might mitigate the slow release & one read stuff but he had that issue in college which is why he ended up being the 4th QB taken and was bypassed by a ton of teams.