On the old board I made a post asking about who you listen to on the other side.  Like who you read or listen to that you disagree with to keep things sharp?


Lately, I feel like there is a bit of a pull down the rabbit hole on conservativism in the people I check out on YouTube.  So I was looking to see who I should follow on youtube that is the equivalent to say Jordan Peterson.

I am not looking to counter or debate anyone for who they think I should check out.  I am looking to find input.  I am not looking for comedians or people who seem to have an end route of making a comedy or lampooning.

Intellectual liberals? Good luck finding those, am I right Ace Levy?! 🙄🔫

I have found contributors to the Atlantic, young Turks and such but not really the same as YouTube or social media types.

Feb 6, 2018 23:13:03 GMT @admin said:

Intellectual liberals? Good luck finding those, am I right Ace Levy ?! 🙄🔫Actually, I have known some very intellectual liberals. I may disagree with their beliefs but that doesn't mean their points aren't valid. People disagree. Just the way of things.

" Liberal Intellectual YouTubers "

Yeah right... 

I've stopped watching any sort of online political opinion on youtube, because it makes me angry.

Whether I'm partly in agreeance or not, I've stopped. Most of it, is extremism whether left or right, and in saying that, half of it is one commentator being outraged or offended by the opinion of another rather than any sort of constructive conversation or opinion of real value. 

I used to watch a lot of Ben Shapiro's work. Some things I agree on, other I don't. His personality alone though, would probably end in me wrapping a chair around his head. 

I could never watch the other side. If my opinion isn't being validated I get angry.

Is Philip DeFranco liberal?

Feb 9, 2018 19:34:49 GMT knox said:

Is Philip DeFranco liberal?

I don't know yet.  I appreciate the input and will check him out.

Does it have to be YouTube? What about podcasts?

Feb 9, 2018 19:56:58 GMT 🤯 said:

Does it have to be YouTube? What about podcasts?

I will admit my odd internet old age and say that I don't fully get podcasts.  Now take that into accord as I ask, in this situation is this a website that is regularly updated with videos?  Or is this something I download and listen to later?

Feb 9, 2018 19:48:13 GMT theend said:

Feb 9, 2018 19:34:49 GMT knox said:

Is Philip DeFranco liberal?

I don't know yet.  I appreciate the input and will check him out.

From what I can gather hearing him on Joe Rogan and Dave Rubin, he's socially liberal and has moved more conservative in other areas since becoming more successful (IE: not socialist I'm guessing.)

Speaking of Rogan, he's a great podcaster who uploads all his stuff on YouTube and doesn't seem to have any sort of particular political bend. He says he's more to the left, but he's got an American flag in the backdrop of his podcast, is an avid hunter and has had a lot of conservative guests on lately though he definitely doesn't limit himself to conservatives. He said he was cool with Cenk Uyger recently and has had him on the show at least once.

Dave Rubin also mentions that he's a liberal at least ten times per episode, though he's pretty firmly in the political right camp these days with his emphasis on limited government and individual liberty. Not to mention he gets every guests input on the "regressive left."

It's also worth mentioning that since most mainstream news in the United States leans to the left, and pretty much all of it leans left in Canada, you're going to get more independent right-wing voices on platforms like YouTube. Plus gen-z and younger millenials basically live online and seems to be leaning more right wing in recent years, but I'm not sure how much of that is actual conservative belief versus simply taking delight in slapping the SJW left.

Feb 9, 2018 20:26:30 GMT theend said:

Feb 9, 2018 19:56:58 GMT 🤯 said:

Does it have to be YouTube? What about podcasts?

I will admit my odd internet old age and say that I don't fully get podcasts.  Now take that into accord as I ask, in this situation is this a website that is regularly updated with videos?  Or is this something I download and listen to later?

You can do both with most podcasts. I think the term podcast was originally used to refer to broadcasts on your iPod, but now it's basically any reasonably long talk usually with more than one person. Sometimes there's video, sometimes it's just audio. If you have an iPhone, you already have a podcasts app on your phone and from there you can download anything you can search for. If you have an Android you'll need an app like PodBean. And of course you can listen to them at home on your computer on YouTube, Podcast One, iTunes or wherever it may be. I listen to hours of podcasts daily, wrestling, politics, TV, video games, whatever. There's basically a podcast for everything.

Feb 9, 2018 20:42:15 GMT knox said:

Feb 9, 2018 20:26:30 GMT theend said:

I will admit my odd internet old age and say that I don't fully get podcasts.  Now take that into accord as I ask, in this situation is this a website that is regularly updated with videos?  Or is this something I download and listen to later?

You can do both with most podcasts. I think the term podcast was originally used to refer to broadcasts on your iPod, but now it's basically any reasonably long talk usually with more than one person. Sometimes there's video, sometimes it's just audio. If you have an iPhone, you already have a podcasts app on your phone and from there you can download anything you can search for. If you have an Android you'll need an app like PodBean. And of course you can listen to them at home on your computer on YouTube, Podcast One, iTunes or wherever it may be. I listen to hours of podcasts daily, wrestling, politics, TV, video games, whatever. There's basically a podcast for everything.

Pretty much this.

I've got a Droid and use the Podcast Republic app for downloading and listening to my podcasts. I've never explored how to go about it on a computer, but I'm sure it can't be any harder than on a phone.

Anyway, if you find a way to access it, I was thinking of recommending Dan Carlin. He does a pretty interesting (to me) Hardcore History series, but he also does a series where he covers more modern politics/current events. I've only listened to a handful of those, but he strikes me as intelligent and also more liberal-leaning but in a way that I think is more palatable to centrists and conservatives. But I'm also an idiot, so I could be way off base there. Plus, I've only listened to a handful of his non-history stuff.

His voice also reminds me of Richard Dreyfuss, which I think I like. :lol:

knox, I have to admit I would watch Joe Rogan more if his interviews and such weren't so much of a time commitment. 3 hour interviews are great for being thorough but hard for me to gather myself to listen to while working. Listening to the youtube videos for 10-15 minute spurts throughout the day work well.

A friend of mine is suggesting Sam Harris.

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I know you’ve seen my post, theend. You edgy edgy white boy, you.

Feb 12, 2018 18:45:32 GMT Bitch said:

I know you’ve seen my post, theend. You edgy edgy white boy, you.

saw it, haven't digested a fraction of the content.  all said, I do not identify as white and don't even know what gamergate is or was or this frog character and at 43 I am hardly a boy.

Through the looking glass it appears youtube and podcasts are primarily conservative. Why do you think this is? I feel that one possibility may be that more moderate to liberal commentary is so much more mainstream. People just watching award shows, jimmy kimmel and the daily show.

Feb 12, 2018 20:59:18 GMT theend said:

Feb 12, 2018 18:45:32 GMT Bitch said:

I know you’ve seen my post, theend. You edgy edgy white boy, you.

saw it, haven't digested a fraction of the content.  all said, I do not identify as white and don't even know what gamergate is or was or this frog character and at 43 I am hardly a boy.

I

You don't identify as white?

Did you assume just gender? And cultural identifier?

Mate, you better check your privilege.

Feb 15, 2018 3:59:42 GMT nazzer said:

Feb 12, 2018 20:59:18 GMT theend said:

saw it, haven't digested a fraction of the content.  all said, I do not identify as white and don't even know what gamergate is or was or this frog character and at 43 I am hardly a boy.

I

You don't identify as white?

To get light on the deep side. I have some eye-opening thought processes that make me feel like I don't know enough about my heritage to identify.  And I question the validity of those identities entirely.

Feb 14, 2018 14:56:23 GMT theend said:

Through the looking glass it appears youtube and podcasts are primarily conservative. Why do you think this is? I feel that one possibility may be that more moderate to liberal commentary is so much more mainstream. People just watching award shows, jimmy kimmel and the daily show.


I tried to answer this in one of my last posts.

Feb 15, 2018 17:06:06 GMT knox said:

Feb 14, 2018 14:56:23 GMT theend said:

Through the looking glass it appears youtube and podcasts are primarily conservative. Why do you think this is? I feel that one possibility may be that more moderate to liberal commentary is so much more mainstream. People just watching award shows, jimmy kimmel and the daily show.


I tried to answer this in one of my last posts.

A bit of youth and slapback.  Crap, I am old for the media I am surfing