Aug 20, 2024 15:18:09 GMT iron maiden said:

It's not wrong. We're not breeding. That's why immigration is necessary to Canada. We whiteys who stole the land don't have enough population to sustain it.

Russell Peters said it years ago. Soon everyone will be beige.

“This type of thing (a divers audience) is not gonna be able to happen in about three hundred years from now…. If we make it to three hundred years from now, do you realize there’s not gonna be no more White people? There’s not gonna be any more Black people. Everyone is gonna be beige… Eventually, we’re all gonna become some hybrid mix of Chinese and Indian. They’re the two largest populations in the world. So you can run from us now…”

To tack onto that, there is some talk around Millennial and Gen Z single men (mostly working class) about "666". It's not the sign of the devil, they are complaining about the idea that they're basically going to remain single unless they are 1) six feet tall, 2) have a six-figure income and 3) at least a six inch d*ck. Some of these guys become "passport bros" and will travel to another country to find a relationship.

So the funny thing is, with mass immigration, this not a small contingent of men who will contribute to the "beige" phenomenon. 😂

Aug 20, 2024 16:06:02 GMT sting said:

Aug 20, 2024 15:18:09 GMT iron maiden said:

It's not wrong. We're not breeding. That's why immigration is necessary to Canada. We whiteys who stole the land don't have enough population to sustain it.

Russell Peters said it years ago. Soon everyone will be beige.

“This type of thing (a divers audience) is not gonna be able to happen in about three hundred years from now…. If we make it to three hundred years from now, do you realize there’s not gonna be no more White people? There’s not gonna be any more Black people. Everyone is gonna be beige… Eventually, we’re all gonna become some hybrid mix of Chinese and Indian. They’re the two largest populations in the world. So you can run from us now…”

To tack onto that, there is some talk around Millennial and Gen Z single men (mostly working class) about "666". It's not the sign of the devil, they are complaining about the idea that they're basically going to remain single unless they are 1) six feet tall, 2) have a six-figure income and 3) at least a six inch d*ck. Some of these guys become "passport bros" and will travel to another country to find a relationship.

So the funny thing is, with mass immigration, this not a small contingent of men who will contribute to the "beige" phenomenon. 😂

Part of me just wants to acknowledge that these men just aren’t good at putting themselves out there, aren’t accepting of less than their idealized atereotype of a woman they want, and are generally assholes…

But the other part of me because we’re anonymous wants to point out I’m married and this 6 thing totally checks out.

Is 6 inches big? Always thought six pack made more sense in the context.

Aug 20, 2024 18:00:34 GMT @ness said:

Is 6 inches big? Always thought six pack made more sense in the context.

IDK. All d*cks are small compared to a seven pound baby. It's all relative. 😂

Aug 20, 2024 16:06:02 GMT sting said:

Aug 20, 2024 15:18:09 GMT iron maiden said:

It's not wrong. We're not breeding. That's why immigration is necessary to Canada. We whiteys who stole the land don't have enough population to sustain it.

Russell Peters said it years ago. Soon everyone will be beige.

“This type of thing (a divers audience) is not gonna be able to happen in about three hundred years from now…. If we make it to three hundred years from now, do you realize there’s not gonna be no more White people? There’s not gonna be any more Black people. Everyone is gonna be beige… Eventually, we’re all gonna become some hybrid mix of Chinese and Indian. They’re the two largest populations in the world. So you can run from us now…”

To tack onto that, there is some talk around Millennial and Gen Z single men (mostly working class) about "666". It's not the sign of the devil, they are complaining about the idea that they're basically going to remain single unless they are 1) six feet tall, 2) have a six-figure income and 3) at least a six inch d*ck. Some of these guys become "passport bros" and will travel to another country to find a relationship.

So the funny thing is, with mass immigration, this not a small contingent of men who will contribute to the "beige" phenomenon. 😂

I'm with mikec (well the first part), because I think it's more about their expectations of what a wife should be more than the 666 thing. That attitude doesn't fly with most 'western world' women. 

Personally, I don't need any of those things. I'm 5'1" so most guys are taller than me. They need to have a job - that's non negotiable. Okay, they might be onto something about the 6" d*ck. :lol: 

Dating these days seems so god damn difficult. My wife and I have a running joke that the main reason we don’t get a divorce is so we don’t have to start dating again. :lol:

Aug 20, 2024 21:01:35 GMT Foos said:

Ive never heard of the 666 crowd. Sounds like these guys should be part of r/semenretention

In metric countries is it 190/190/190?

Aug 20, 2024 17:31:17 GMT mikec said:

Aug 20, 2024 16:06:02 GMT sting said:

To tack onto that, there is some talk around Millennial and Gen Z single men (mostly working class) about "666". It's not the sign of the devil, they are complaining about the idea that they're basically going to remain single unless they are 1) six feet tall, 2) have a six-figure income and 3) at least a six inch d*ck. Some of these guys become "passport bros" and will travel to another country to find a relationship.

So the funny thing is, with mass immigration, this not a small contingent of men who will contribute to the "beige" phenomenon. 😂

Part of me just wants to acknowledge that these men just aren’t good at putting themselves out there, aren’t accepting of less than their idealized atereotype of a woman they want, and are generally assholes…

But the other part of me because we’re anonymous wants to point out I’m married and this 6 thing totally checks out.

There’s truth to that, but I think the dating market is completely out of control for women. Their standards are based on who they can fuck, and they conflate that with who they can get in a relationship with.

Young men today don’t have the same privilege many of us had even 20 years ago, but when they ask for help, they are ruthlessly mocked or spoken down to because they’re men.

Aug 20, 2024 21:17:58 GMT KJ said:

Aug 20, 2024 17:31:17 GMT mikec said:

Part of me just wants to acknowledge that these men just aren’t good at putting themselves out there, aren’t accepting of less than their idealized atereotype of a woman they want, and are generally assholes…

But the other part of me because we’re anonymous wants to point out I’m married and this 6 thing totally checks out.

There’s truth to that, but I think the dating market is completely out of control for women. Their standards are based on who they can fuck, and they conflate that with who they can get in a relationship with.

Young men today don’t have the same privilege many of us had even 20 years ago, but when they ask for help, they are ruthlessly mocked or spoken down to because they’re men.

Imma need you to expand your thought please. 

Who is 'their'? Women or Men? 

What privilege is different for young men from 20 years ago? 

What kind of 'help' are they asking for, who is speaking down to them and what does that have to do with dating? 

Genuinely curious. 

Aug 20, 2024 23:34:03 GMT iron maiden said:

Aug 20, 2024 21:17:58 GMT KJ said:

There’s truth to that, but I think the dating market is completely out of control for women. Their standards are based on who they can fuck, and they conflate that with who they can get in a relationship with.

Young men today don’t have the same privilege many of us had even 20 years ago, but when they ask for help, they are ruthlessly mocked or spoken down to because they’re men.

Imma need you to expand your thought please. 

Who is 'their'? Women or Men? 

What privilege is different for young men from 20 years ago? 

What kind of 'help' are they asking for, who is speaking down to them and what does that have to do with dating? 

Genuinely curious. 

I wrote a reply on this but I lost it...
Generally, women are finding that they can do what men have been doing for years, engage in no strings attached sex.
Women have also learnt that they can only sleeping with 8/10 and above men and there are no limit to the number of those hookups they can get.
In this way most men now are not getting sex, not that they have some right to it.

Where it is broken though, is women later looking for relationships don't realise that men who will sleep with them aren't the same men who will wife them and by the time women go to settle down most men are married, bitter or burnt out.
Everyone was sold a myth...

It's why monogamy works as a basis for a society.
Every man to his own woman and every woman to her own man.
Of course if men hadn't treated women so poorly we wouldn't have had the sexual revolution.

There are many great young single women at my church.
It's such a shame they can't find guys or guys can't find them.
Men and women both looking in all the wrong places for all the wrong things.

But what do I know, I am historically terrible at relationships 

Aug 20, 2024 23:48:24 GMT iNCY said:

Aug 20, 2024 23:34:03 GMT iron maiden said:

Imma need you to expand your thought please. 

Who is 'their'? Women or Men? 

What privilege is different for young men from 20 years ago? 

What kind of 'help' are they asking for, who is speaking down to them and what does that have to do with dating? 

Genuinely curious. 

I wrote a reply on this but I lost it...
Generally, women are finding that they can do what men have been doing for years, engage in no strings attached sex.
Women have also learnt that they can only sleeping with 8/10 and above men and there are no limit to the number of those hookups they can get.
In this way most men now are not getting sex, not that they have some right to it.

Where it is broken though, is women later looking for relationships don't realise that men who will sleep with them aren't the same men who will wife them and by the time women go to settle down most men are married, bitter or burnt out.
Everyone was sold a myth...

It's why monogamy works as a basis for a society.
Every man to his own woman and every woman to her own man.
Of course if men hadn't treated women so poorly we wouldn't have had the sexual revolution.

There are many great young single women at my church.
It's such a shame they can't find guys or guys can't find them.
Men and women both looking in all the wrong places for all the wrong things.

But what do I know, I am historically terrible at relationships 

Exactly this

Are we overrating the sexual activity of Millennials and Gen Z here, regardless of gender? From the LA Times, "The University of Chicago’s General Social Survey — which has been following shifts in Americans’ behavioral trends for decades — found that 3 in 10 Generation Z males, ages 18 to 25, surveyed in 2021 reported having gone without sex the prior year. One in four Gen Z women also reported having had no sex the prior year".

Same article shows 91% of women, in the previous year, to have 0-1 partners, and 88% of men to have 0-1 partners. It seems like only a small contingent is bumping uglies with numerous partners ...

We could go down a different rabbit hole here, but I believe relationships are just as much about timing as they are attraction.

If two people are in entirely different places or going in entirely different directions, the relationship will never work despite how much love or respect you might have for one another.

I’m not young, haven’t dated in a looooong time (and wasn’t great at it when I tried), and do not have young friends that are trying to date so I can’t really speak to the current dating scene, so everything people are saying might be true…

But it still sounds like the 666 thing is just a way to villainize women who aren’t charitably giving it out to every schlubby guy they meet, made up by men who would rather blame women than take any accountability for the things they have control over.

The 666 thing is kinda both

it is largely inadequate men who are struggling with the idea that <particular woman> doesn't necessarily NEED a man, especially if she makes her own money and has a strong network of friends. She can afford to wait and doesn't need to settle, because being single isn't so bad

but as a single dude, I absolutely see a ton of "must be this tall to get on this ride, and I like international travel" profiles

666 is incel nonsense, nothing more, nothing less. Reasons incel are single is they have impossibly high standards. They believe that they deserve to date nothing less than a rich supermodel who is utterly subservient to them. When the hottest girls on dating apps do not want to give up their lives to be their slaves, they screams it is because they are not rich and born with flawless genes. And this is before you get into the idea that girls start to decay at 16 and by mid 20's they are not worth dating anymore.

Nothing shows the standard crap clearer than when watching incels and femcels fight. Would think the two groups would be totally compatible but they hate each other more than they hate chad and stacys.

People scream about how dating apps changed the dating sense, but what what happened is people's standards changed and what many want is to be able to go to a bar and leave with the hottest guy or girl there, and if they cannot not, they throw a tantrum and leave.  And a lot of society is telling people you only deserve to be with the best, and the rest are damaged or not worth your time.  So people find their own standards makes it impossible to date anymore as they only want to date like the top 1% of girls on apps, and consider everyone else beneath them.  And sure maybe if you have perfect genes and were born rich you can do this with a shit personality, but for most people this is just an insane attitude to have towards dating.

Then of course, it can never be the guys fault, so they claim women are all sluts who just want to fuck rich guys with great bodies, ignoring the fact it their toxic ass personalities that keep these people single and their belief that women exist to serve them, an attitude that is an instant turnoff in the dating scene.

Aug 21, 2024 2:24:22 GMT sting said:

Are we overrating the sexual activity of Millennials and Gen Z here, regardless of gender? From the LA Times, "The University of Chicago’s General Social Survey — which has been following shifts in Americans’ behavioral trends for decades — found that 3 in 10 Generation Z males, ages 18 to 25, surveyed in 2021 reported having gone without sex the prior year. One in four Gen Z women also reported having had no sex the prior year".

Same article shows 91% of women, in the previous year, to have 0-1 partners, and 88% of men to have 0-1 partners. It seems like only a small contingent is bumping uglies with numerous partners ...

It may be unfair to suggest, but I'm sure there's a lot of young people silently, unknowingly in a state of arrested development.

I work with at least 10 people in their 20s and most of them don't drive at all, the majority of them live at home still including people on the verge of 30 and almost all of them have obsessions and interests you'd associate with someone in their teens.

It's not unique to Gen Z either, so it's not a young person bash, but it seems more acceptable to be in your late 20s and early 30s and still living and behaving like you're in your late teens as compared to previous generations.

Aug 21, 2024 5:10:51 GMT NATH45 said:

Aug 21, 2024 2:24:22 GMT sting said:

Are we overrating the sexual activity of Millennials and Gen Z here, regardless of gender? From the LA Times, "The University of Chicago’s General Social Survey — which has been following shifts in Americans’ behavioral trends for decades — found that 3 in 10 Generation Z males, ages 18 to 25, surveyed in 2021 reported having gone without sex the prior year. One in four Gen Z women also reported having had no sex the prior year".

Same article shows 91% of women, in the previous year, to have 0-1 partners, and 88% of men to have 0-1 partners. It seems like only a small contingent is bumping uglies with numerous partners ...

It may be unfair to suggest, but I'm sure there's a lot of young people silently, unknowingly in a state of arrested development.

I work with at least 10 people in their 20s and most of them don't drive at all, the majority of them live at home still including people on the verge of 30 and almost all of them have obsessions and interests you'd associate with someone in their teens.

It's not unique to Gen Z either, so it's not a young person bash, but it seems more acceptable to be in your late 20s and early 30s and still living and behaving like you're in your late teens as compared to previous generations.

This is a big deal, for sure. I think the biggest form of inertia Millennials and Gen Z are dealing with is student loan debt. Absent that debt, and considering that a lot of jobs will pay $15/hr right out of high school, a lot of this group could have saved and made a decent down payment on a home. The difference between that and still living with one's parents is night and day. And, obviously, it has implications for relationships.

About half of 16-year-olds had a driver's license in 1982; in 2022, it was a quarter of them. These groups are moving slower toward the typical hallmarks of adulthood.

I thought we went off on a little rabbit trail that was interesting in it's own right, but not necessarily valid to the discussion of the thread it was in so I moved it to it's own so we could continue.

Guess I'll chime in for what little value my take has. I do think a big problem in dating is simply meeting. People are the most isolated they've ever been. The conventions that people used to meet are just not there anymore (work being taboo and less social functions in general) so people utilize social media and apps which is where the 666 seems to flourish. Before you were restricted by who you knew irl but thanks to the internet that is not the case any longer.

The often cited study from okc showed where men and women swiped. 80 20 rule essentially. It's usually used to claim 80% of men are unattractive to women or more accurately only 20 percent are considered above average in looks, which aligns with how many men are over 6 feet tall.

Truth is these are hookup apps so even if we pretend it isn't with limited time and unlimited choices... why wouldn't women choose only the hawt guys? I'm sure the Chads of the world always had their pick of the litter but if you're a guy who has plenty of options like most women (at least in terms of fucking) of course he's going to enact on them.

Lots of guys can't compete in this way but they also take bad pics and there's no real way to win her over with your personality over text. Time is limited so even if you chat online... coordinating the meet is difficult. Lots of dudes might do better if they were meeting women normally but alas.

I do think women doing better than ever also factors in. In the past I'm gonna assume there was more of a need to have a man via marriage. Women are in college and making their own way. They don't need a an individual man for for survival. We've seen news about men not being economically attractive these days. I honestly think that hurts dating prospects as well because being taken care of or at least being on her level is a factor in relationships. Why look for potential when there's plenty of finished products at your fingertips?

I don't know what the solution is as that might require putting toothpaste back in the tube. I never had much luck myself and after a while I just gave up and coped with the itch for companionship in other ways and don't stress it too much.

Aug 21, 2024 13:52:02 GMT sting said:

Aug 21, 2024 5:10:51 GMT NATH45 said:

It may be unfair to suggest, but I'm sure there's a lot of young people silently, unknowingly in a state of arrested development.

I work with at least 10 people in their 20s and most of them don't drive at all, the majority of them live at home still including people on the verge of 30 and almost all of them have obsessions and interests you'd associate with someone in their teens.

It's not unique to Gen Z either, so it's not a young person bash, but it seems more acceptable to be in your late 20s and early 30s and still living and behaving like you're in your late teens as compared to previous generations.

This is a big deal, for sure. I think the biggest form of inertia Millennials and Gen Z are dealing with is student loan debt. Absent that debt, and considering that a lot of jobs will pay $15/hr right out of high school, a lot of this group could have saved and made a decent down payment on a home. The difference between that and still living with one's parents is night and day. And, obviously, it has implications for relationships.

About half of 16-year-olds had a driver's license in 1982; in 2022, it was a quarter of them. These groups are moving slower toward the typical hallmarks of adulthood.

I can accept the economic reasons for staying at home until later, as they are some what justified - it is far more difficult to buy a home now even compared to just 10 years ago.

With a lot of these guys, I see an almost lacking of maturity. I'm not necessarily talking in the obnoxious sense - it's not like they're acting like children and making silly noises, it's more so a lack of adult like qualities - independence, self-confidence, autonomy, being able to make decisions, purpose even.

It's funny. What you guys think about women, I think about men. Maybe not the big d*ick and 6 figure salary part, but certainly everything else. That men only want the 1% and only wants sex or someone to cater to them or even have their cake and eat it too (aka cheating). I think society has pushed the narrative that we all deserve and can get anything we want and when we can't, it's not our fault.

Yes, I am overweight -and that's ok if that's not for you- but don't sit there and tear me down because I don't look like Heidi Klum when we're both 5's. I have had the most vile things said to me while dating in my 30's and 40's, so I just don't put myself out there any more past a night of sex every so often so I can be torn down when I've worked so hard to be happy with who I am. You think I want to be the 3rd, 5th, 7th, 9th wheel all the time or taking my mom as my 'date' all the time, of course I don't, but I won't put up with BS so I have someone either. I've just learned to be okay with it and focus on the positives in my life instead of a 666 guy making excuses. 

Aug 22, 2024 0:26:47 GMT iron maiden said:

It's funny. What you guys think about women, I think about men. Maybe not the big d*ick and 6 figure salary part, but certainly everything else. That men only want the 1% and only wants sex or someone to cater to them or even have their cake and eat it too (aka cheating). I think society has pushed the narrative that we all deserve and can get anything we want and when we can't, it's not our fault.

Yes, I am overweight -and that's ok if that's not for you- but don't sit there and tear me down because I don't look like Heidi Klum when we're both 5's. I have had the most vile things said to me while dating in my 30's and 40's, so I just don't put myself out there any more past a night of sex every so often so I can be torn down when I've worked so hard to be happy with who I am. You think I want to be the 3rd, 5th, 7th, 9th wheel all the time or taking my mom as my 'date' all the time, of course I don't, but I won't put up with BS so I have someone either. I've just learned to be okay with it and focus on the positives in my life instead of a 666 guy making excuses. 

I am sorry that you have had so many shitty experiences with the vile things that were said to you.


There are so many movements around at the moment, gay price, fat acceptance, HAAS and all these things, but they are wrong.
We don't need to "celebrate" who we are, we have fat people on YouTube telling us how we should feel about fat people...
The point and I think this is where you might be at now, is that we don't need the approval of anyone else to have a right to exist and a right to flourish.
Where now people try to make society conform to approving to them as they are now, when the answer is to realise that we have that intrinsic right to exist and to be happy as much as anyone else.

It is because we can feel that we are too fat, too weird, too short etc. we put that out into the world and then those VILE people who seek to manipulate and control use it to hurt.
This is really important, because I think when we do things like self improvement or weight loss from a place that sees us desiring to lift our status it is doomed to fail.
We only really have success when who we are is aligned with what we are doing, because that is the real desire to be the best version of ourselves.
When we find that place, it is when we have that "inner light" that attracts the right people and repels the assholes.

Aug 22, 2024 0:26:47 GMT iron maiden said:

It's funny. What you guys think about women, I think about men. Maybe not the big d*ick and 6 figure salary part, but certainly everything else. That men only want the 1% and only wants sex or someone to cater to them or even have their cake and eat it too (aka cheating). I think society has pushed the narrative that we all deserve and can get anything we want and when we can't, it's not our fault.

Yes, I am overweight -and that's ok if that's not for you- but don't sit there and tear me down because I don't look like Heidi Klum when we're both 5's. I have had the most vile things said to me while dating in my 30's and 40's, so I just don't put myself out there any more past a night of sex every so often so I can be torn down when I've worked so hard to be happy with who I am. You think I want to be the 3rd, 5th, 7th, 9th wheel all the time or taking my mom as my 'date' all the time, of course I don't, but I won't put up with BS so I have someone either. I've just learned to be okay with it and focus on the positives in my life instead of a 666 guy making excuses. 

I'm sorry; guys suck.

Worse than while playing Xbox Live?

The internet is perhaps the worst thing ever.

I've never heard of the 666 rule. Nor, do I spend enough time in the dark corners of the internet entertaining trends.

And, I've got 2 out of the 3.

And that's the problem, the angry find each other on the internet and sit, and stew and echo off each other and blame everyone else for their problems instead of trying to better themselves. And eventually they use it to tap out of the game.

I think the best thing young people can do if they're looking for anything is to work on themselves first. Be the best version of yourself. Get your shit together.

The other thing is learning to talk to people, learn how to have a conversation and engage with people. You don't necessarily have to be the most charismatic person in the room, but being able to engage in a friendly conversation is a great skill to master. Is it a skill? When there's so many people who live in a perpetual cycle of awkwardness, it sure is.

Aug 22, 2024 3:47:18 GMT NATH45 said:

The internet is perhaps the worst thing ever.

I've never heard of the 666 rule. Nor, do I spend enough time in the dark corners of the internet entertaining trends.

And, I've got 2 out of the 3.

And that's the problem, the angry find each other on the internet and sit, and stew and echo off each other and blame everyone else for their problems instead of trying to better themselves. And eventually they use it to tap out of the game.

I think the best thing young people can do if they're looking for anything is to work on themselves first. Be the best version of yourself. Get your shit together.

The other thing is learning to talk to people, learn how to have a conversation and engage with people. You don't necessarily have to be the most charismatic person in the room, but being able to engage in a friendly conversation is a great skill to master. Is it a skill? When there's so many people who live in a perpetual cycle of awkwardness, it sure is.

See and I would message the heck out of someone like that simply because of the humour.

Looks fade, ED happens (both sides) so you better be able to laugh together in the end.

4D chess: it's actually the Eiffel Tower in Vegas.

Isn’t 666: six foot, six figures, six pack?