Apr 9, 2018 17:41:27 GMT Big Pete said:

Nakamura/Styles held up better on replay.

Certainly it deserves it's reputation as a disappointment. If you sell a match as a dream match, it has to be a ***** classic. It certainly didn't live up to that and I'd consider **** generous, but it was still a good match.

They started off working a NJPW style match. Slow in the early going with a big rest-hold before building the match up piece by piece. I'd argue the match didn't get going until Styles kicked Nakamura hard in the side of the knee, causing Shinsuke to sell for the rest of the match. Considering the build-up, it was actually smart to see Styles eliminate the knee and for it to play a role in the rest of the bout. Styles kept picking away at Nakamura. Phenomenal Forearms, Calve Crusher, an attempted springboard 450 which still did damage to Nakamura's knees but Nak wasn't going to stay down on the biggest show. One thing I like about both guys is that their strike sequences are usually you'll see and here it was no exception. Typically the Pele kick is the winner in these altercations but Nak was able to stay on his feet and connect with a momentum shifting knee to the head. This led into the finish which saw Nak hit the Exploder, set up for the Kinshasha only to be picked up in a phenomenal Styles Clash for the win.

If they wanted more stars, they would have had Nak kick out and continued the match. Instead this was intended to be part one of their rivalry and it appears the rematch will be even better now that Nakamura has turned heel.

I would go *** which was around the same rating I gave Okada v. Naito from this year's WrestleKingdom.

I watched it again this morning , with my kid before school and was just as bored by it. He even seemed kind of bored by it despite being a big Styles fan. 

To me it felt like playing WWE2K18 with Shinsuke vs AJ , only my internet was lagging off and on and running slowly. I think people are giving it the benefit of the doubt because it's AJ and Shinsuke but that match wasn't good at all. In my opinion of course. 

I'll follow UT's lead and rank the matches, although I didn't watch all of them. I watched Cena vs Taker but don't count it as a proper match. I'm not sure what the hell that was all about.

1. Angle/Rousey vs HHH/Steph
-- BIG GAP --
2. Styles vs Nakamura
3. Charlotte vs Asuka
4. Nia Jax vs Alexa Bliss
5. Braun and Nicholas vs The Bar
6. Lesnar vs Reigns

The mixed tag is yet another example of WWE nailing the overbooked big match formula. They told a great story with Steph being the ultimate jerk. It went a lot longer than I expected but it never felt like it went on for too long. There was always something new to advance the match and keep the audience hooked. Steph eye raking to get the upperhand on Ronda. HHH and Ronda mixing it up. Kurt being flung into Rousey. I didn't think Steph was made to look too good at all. She was convincingly portrayed as someone without the fighting ability but having the brains and cunning to make the maximum of every single opportunity, allowing her to stay in the match much longer than she had any right to. This match actually humanised Ronda somewhat. It established her as a pro-wrestler who is not invincible in the ring, as opposed to the female Brock Lesnar demigod we would expect.

All the other matches at the very least didn't live up to their potential. Styles vs Nakamura was pretty good, but a pale imitation of their WK match. Probably didn't help that I watched said match the night before. I might have had a higher opinion of this matchif I didn't. Still, second best match ain't bad. It took a while for Charlotte and Asuka to find their chemistry. I thought the first half of the match was all over the place. Once it got going, it was really good, but then it ended rather abruptly. I liked the finish, albeit it felt a little too soon for my liking.

Lesnar vs Reigns was awful. Just horrendous. I spent half the match thinking "what the fuck is going on?" I know Reigns is "the guy", but he spent most of last year losing, even to guys like The Miz, and suddenly he's kicking out of a million F5s? At least in 2015 this booking was warranted, but even then he "only" kicked out of three F5s. The hard elbows was even more mind boggling than it was when Lesnar first did it to Orton. I assume it was pre-planned, but with Lesnar, you can never be sure. Not implying any malicious intent, just that he hit him harder than he meant to or caught him wrong or something. Anyway, the match sucked.

So.....Did Brock Go into business for himself last night?

On a side note, it just hit me, Nicholas got a win and a WM moment before Wyatt.

I like that the Brock/Roman match was so polarizing , I seem like one of the few who isn't too passionate about it either way. I thought it told a fine story but the fact we had no one to really root for or against killed the dynamic for me and the crowd. I didn't hate it , didn't love it either ... it's just a match that happened.

If anything, I was more critical heading into the match because I know what they're capable of. I agree the match was a fraction slow at times, but it had nothing in common with video game wrestling. They actually told a story in this match, in contrast to Brock Lesnar decimating Roman Reigns on Beginner Difficulty with a 5 Finisher handicap...

I forgot to rank Bryan/Shane vs Owens/Zayn. I'd put it between Jax/Bliss and Bruan/Bar. It was obvious what the match was going to be, and it was exactly that. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Apr 9, 2018 18:04:27 GMT Big Pete said:

If anything, I was more critical heading into the match because I know what they're capable of. I agree the match was a fraction slow at times, but it had nothing in common with video game wrestling. They actually told a story in this match, in contrast to Brock Lesnar decimating Roman Reigns on Beginner Difficulty with a 5 Finisher handicap...

What are you talking about? Isn't the bolded exactly what happened? Their previous match was similar, but it felt more real. Roman was somehow relishing the moment despite getting battered, which made it somewhat believable when he kicked out (as well as being booked strong leading into the match and not taking quite as much punishment). In this match he was just kicking out of everything because booking said so, and for like 5 minutes there was nothing but F5-kick out-shock. While we're at it, what made the final F5 work? Because Roman was bleeding?

I thought WM was good overall. Worst match was the US Title or Undertaker squashing Cena. Best was Lesnar/Reigns.

I was really shocked Lesnar won. However, I read on Twitter he is only like 2 months away from his reign lasting longer than CM Punk’s big one did, so now I’m not surprised Vince had him go over.

In other news, Tanahashi was in attendance. Few people recognised him.

imgur.com/gallery/vwnaU

According to reddit:

Anyways I asked the ACE how he felt about WM and he said he loved it. But he didn’t love the main event. Dude was laughing his ass off at the nakamura heel turn.

Funniest part to me was when Braun was looking for a tag team partner, his crew kept pointing at him and he was raising his hands.

Apr 9, 2018 18:12:23 GMT Emperor said:

I forgot to rank Bryan/Shane vs Owens/Zayn. I'd put it between Jax/Bliss and Bruan/Bar. It was obvious what the match was going to be, and it was exactly that. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Apr 9, 2018 18:04:27 GMT Big Pete said:

If anything, I was more critical heading into the match because I know what they're capable of. I agree the match was a fraction slow at times, but it had nothing in common with video game wrestling. They actually told a story in this match, in contrast to Brock Lesnar decimating Roman Reigns on Beginner Difficulty with a 5 Finisher handicap...

What are you talking about? Isn't the bolded exactly what happened? Their previous match was similar, but it felt more real. Roman was somehow relishing the moment despite getting battered, which made it somewhat believable when he kicked out (as well as being booked strong leading into the match and not taking quite as much punishment). In this match he was just kicking out of everything because booking said so, and for like 5 minutes there was nothing but F5-kick out-shock. While we're at it, what made the final F5 work? Because Roman was bleeding?

You actually got my point. Nakamura/Styles told a story of Styles being the ace, ignoring Nakamura's mind games, working over his knee and using his athleticism to win the match. Brock/Reigns is a video game style match about spamming big moves until the opponent stops kicking out. It wasn't about entertaining the fans, just Brock being dominant.

Charlotte/Asuka was even better on replay. I must have been distracted early on, because I missed Asuka being too nimble for Charlotte and the shoulder injury. I'm not sure how I forgot given it was a central part of the match and they did an excellent job of selling it and working it over. It wasn't about hitting pretty spots, some of the kicks and holds looked painful and made the big spots mean a lot more. I thought both girls brought plenty of emotion into the fight which made it easier to get invested in and made the win that much sweeter for Charlotte. It's just a shame the transition to the figure eight was so plain. Charlotte drills Asuka with the spear, gets a nearfall, she begins crying like that was her last shot, straps on the figure eight, makes a point of only leveraging herself with one arm and Asuka taps out relatively quickly. It just didn't feel as grand as it ought to have been, but otherwise it was a very good match.

Dare I say? Better than Trish/Mickie.

Apr 9, 2018 18:18:39 GMT Emperor said:

In other news, Tanahashi was in attendance. Few people recognised him.

imgur.com/gallery/vwnaU

According to reddit:

Anyways I asked the ACE how he felt about WM and he said he loved it. But he didn’t love the main event. Dude was laughing his ass off at the nakamura heel turn.

Funniest part to me was when Braun was looking for a tag team partner, his crew kept pointing at him and he was raising his hands.

:lol: could you imagine? Braun pulls the ACE of New Japan out of the crowd? Hahaha

rankings...

1. AJ Styles vs. Shinsuke Nakamura
2. The Miz vs. Finn Balor vs. Seth Rollins
3. Cedric Alexander vs. Mustafa Ali
4. Rousey/Angle vs. Triple H/Steph
5. Roman Reigns vs. Brock Lesnar
6. Charlotte vs. Asuka
7. Daniel Bryan & Shane vs. Owens & Zayn
8. The Undertaker vs. John Cena
9. Braun & Nicholas vs. The Bar
10. Usos vs. 2B vs. New Day
11. ATGMBR
12. Nia Jax vs Alexa Bliss
13. US title match
14. Women's Battle Royale

I feel like everyone complaining about Styles vs. Nakamura not delivering were expecting a repeat of their matches in Japan, which we were never going to get. I'm actually surprised they did the Bomaye to the back of Styles' head spot. I didn't think they'd do that, but I was pleasantly surprised. They got 20 minutes, kicked each other's asses, told a great story and had arguably the biggest moment of the night when Nakamura turned. Their feud is only just beginning and there will be more matches to come, likely better matches.

Miz/Balor/Rollins was an amazing curtain jerker and I think it speaks to how solid this show was that a lot of people forgot the match even happened.

Same goes for Alexander vs. Ali. I loved that match and loved the before and after between the two competitors. That was beautiful.

The mixed tag went long and it affected the Smackdown Tag titles match, which I was really looking forward to, so I'm a bit pissed at them getting so much time. "Oh it was always going to get that much time.." yeah, fine, I know. I can still be upset. It was pretty fun though. I enjoyed it way more than I thought I would.

I'll repeat what I said last night about Reigns/Lesnar: the fans just assumed Reigns was going to win because we all know wrestling fans fucking know everything, so they shit all over the match and hijacked what was quite literally Brock Lesnar trying to straight up murder Roman Reigns, WHICH IS WHAT ALL THE FANS WANTED. AND HE DID IT. That match was fucking awesome and the fans played themselves. If you didn't like it piss off.

Charlotte/Asuka was the match I was looking forward to most (minus Styles/Nakamura) and I felt it fell flat. The intensity didn't seem to be there from Asuka and the finish was dumb. Good match, not great like I was expecting.

D-Bry/Shane vs Owens/Zayn was pretty decent. I liked Owens and Zayn a lot in this match, but I didn't like how Daniel Bryan did the "I'm hurt oh wait no I'm not let's win," thing. I hate that trope and they literally took Daniel Bryan out of his return match for most of it. Why wouldn't they flip it around and have Shane taken out and have Daniel carry the match? That's way more believable.

Taker squashing Cena was dope. Whoever said in the thread last night that this is setting up Taker/Cena 2 next year is probably right, and I'm cool with that. I hope the match is for the Universal title after Cena dethrones Brock to break the record.

Nicholas is a star. Nuff said.

SD tag titles was cut short and that pissed me off. Could have been a show stealer. They did what they could with their time though, and it was still alright. Glad Luke Harper got his moment. That was nice to see.

ATGMBR was pretty fun. Goldust dabbing was hilarious and I popped when Bray Wyatt helped DELETE the final entrants.

Nia Jax still fucks up in the ring and their match sucked, but the story was nice. Only reason I didn't put it last.

US title match was garbage. Super bland and the most over guy on the roster not named Daniel Bryan ate the pin. Whoever booked this match should be shot.

Women's battle royale sucked ass and my daughter almost cried when she thought Bayley won and then Naomi ruined it. Nobody makes my daughter cry!

Apr 9, 2018 15:57:20 GMT System said:

Roman is going to be considered one of the greatest wrestlers of all time in five years. It was annoying that the fans boycotted the match but they’re the ones that paid heaps of money to be there, and I absolutely enjoyed it from home for $9.99! (USD 😒)

HAHAHAHA.  I'm not a Roman hater but that is hilarious.  I doubt even Roman Reigns himself believes that at this point.  He's been the most bizarrely booked cornerstone of the company for years and at multiple points including last night it seems that WWE likes to just randomly sabotage any momentum he gets and then wonder why not everybody is clamoring for Roman.  I mean so many wrong turns have been made with the guy, that is why I can't put it all on Roman.  Hell I don't see why people think he's apart of the vince machine, the guy has been jerked around more than any other top guy in the history of the company. I mean shit, even CM Punk got treated better and he's one of the biggest examples of WWE throwing ice on a red hot super star just for the fuck of it. With Roman it's just been a prolonged booking train wreck.  I guess it's going to be a hell of a good 5 years for Roman.

Apr 9, 2018 19:20:14 GMT RT said:

D-Bry/Shane vs Owens/Zayn was pretty decent. I liked Owens and Zayn a lot in this match, but I didn't like how Daniel Bryan did the "I'm hurt oh wait no I'm not let's win," thing. I hate that trope and they literally took Daniel Bryan out of his return match for most of it. Why wouldn't they flip it around and have Shane taken out and have Daniel carry the match? That's way more believable.

That way you run the risk of having the crowd turn on Shane because he gets the hot tag and does all the cool stuff while Bryan spends most of the match getting beaten up. That seems like a poor way to structure it, even if you have Bryan do a hot tag at the end. I like the way they booked it, although the stretcher spot was overkill. Just have Bryan laying on the floor, don't need to have him stretchered to the back. Then you don't need to spend so much time having Shane hold his own against two of Smackdown's top stars.

Yeah I hated the stretcher spot. Bryan is a natural underdog, but WWE likes to really beat you over the head with it. I don't think anybody has been strapped to a stretcher more than Bryan has in his career. Guys take that spot all the time and don't require a stretcher job, don't make Bryan out to be a total pussy.

1. Charlotte vs. Asuka
2. Miz vs. Finn Balor vs. Seth Rollins
3. Rousey/Angle vs. Triple H/Steph
4. Cedric Alexander vs. Mustafa Ali
5. AJ Styles vs. Shinsuke Nakamura
6. Daniel Bryan & Shane vs. Owens & Zayn
7. US title match
8. Usos vs. 2B vs. New Day
9. Nia Jax vs Alexa Bliss
10. Braun & Nicholas vs. The Bar
11. Roman Reigns vs. Brock Lesnar
12. The Undertaker vs. John Cena
13. ATGMBR
14. Women's Battle Royale

The match I was most looking forward to was Charlotte vs Asuka and to me it did not disapoint. I feel like 6-9 could for the most part be interchangeable.  All 'okay' but mostly forgettable. 

Best entrance was Shinsuke.

 

Best entrance for me was Charlotte by a mile. Worst was New Day. In fact that might have been the worst of all time.

Word has it that Brock Lesnar and Vince McMahon got into it after the show last night.

Lots of people attending the event also confirmed that a bunch of pyro went off well after the show ended.

Speculation seems to be that Brock was pissed off (left the ring in a hurry) and skipped whatever fanfare they had planned to close the show, which upset Vince.

I wonder if this has any effect on plans for tonight?

Best Entrance: TIE: Seth FREAKIN' Rollins and Mustafa Ali (honorable mention to Shinsuke Nakamura and Finn Balor)
Worst Entrance: Alexa "hey look I wore a glittery thing on my head" Bliss

Apr 9, 2018 20:36:45 GMT RT said:

Word has it that Brock Lesnar and Vince McMahon got into it after the show last night.

Lots of people attending the event also confirmed that a bunch of pyro went off well after the show ended.

Speculation seems to be that Brock was pissed off (left the ring in a hurry) and skipped whatever fanfare they had planned to close the show, which upset Vince.

I wonder if this has any effect on plans for tonight?

I saw it said he threw the title at Vince or the wall...still. I mean what does Brock have to be pissed off about?  He gets paid big bucks to work a sweet ass schedule and he won. Okay it was a shit match (IMO) but plenty liked it. 

Be interesting to hear what it was about if it ever comes to light.  

worst entrance - most of the women in the royal rumble just going in at once.

Just rewatched the first two matches, the Ronda match, AJ/Nakamura and the Daniel Bryan match because I felt like they needed a rewatch in order for me to properly rank them. I may watch the main event later, but the dead pissed off crowd and ridiculous amount of F-5 kick outs isn't really motivating me to turn it on.\

1) Charlotte vs Asuka
2) Ronda/Kurt vs HHH/Steph
3) AJ vs Nakamura
4) Rollins vs Miz vs Balor
5) Bryan/Shane vs Owens/Zayn
6) Bliss vs Jax
7) Ali vs Alexander
8) Brock vs Roman
9) Undertaker vs Cena
10) Bar vs Strowman/Nicholas
11) ATG Battle Royal
12) Bludgeons vs Usos vs New Day
13) Women's Battle Royal
14) Jinder vs Orton vs Roode vs Rusev

I liked Charlotte vs Asuka a lot watching it live, but it was much better a second time around. I think it's the best overall match on the card. Not too long, not too short, both girls made every second and every move count. I would easily rank this above Trish/Mickie for best women's Wrestlemania match. I'm not as upset about Asuka losing as most people are, I think the shock added to the match and created a very memorable moment. Everyone believed nobody was ready, but the queen, playing the underdog for a change, conquered. Charlotte had second best entrance of the night as well. And I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that beautiful moonsault into a triangle! This should have been much higher up on the card, two of the best women's wrestlers in the company both in the ring and as characters with a good story to boot.

The Ronda tag team match I think lived up to everybody's expectations and then some. Stephanie is a horrendous wrestler, but played her part very well here. Definitely not technically the prettiest match on the card (even though Kurt looked far better than I expected) but Ronda, with the exception of Bryan, was the biggest babyface on the show. Her offence looked great as well, especially for the moments that she was wrestling Triple H (intergender wrestling in WWE!) Excellent match of babyfaces vs heels, and the best pro wrestling debut I've ever seen. I think the SD Women's title match was a better all around match, so I've still got to put that one as match of the night, but matches like this are what Wrestlemania moments are all about.

AJ/Nakamura was my favourite match of the show at the time the show ended, and it still may be my favourite (technically the best on the show I think), but the crowd was noticeably quieter for this than many that came before it. The fact that it had to follow Daniel Bryan's return and maybe the best first two hours of Wrestlemania ever I think was a major reason for this, but it was compounded by the champ and challenger wrestling a noticeably slower match than usual, compared to other matches on the card and other matches of theirs in general. Personally the slower pace was what I liked about the match, especially watching the show for a second time with a scattered match order, the pacing helped the match stand out among the other frenzied matches on the card. The Nakamura heel turn makes sense with a lot of hindsight, trying to get inside the head of AJ for weeks, almost succeeding and ultimately snapping when he fails to seize the belt on the grandest stage of them all. I really loved how the match started off with Nakamura wrestling almost as the heel in the match, taking control and establishing the slow pace, only to have AJ regain control and slow it down even further. AJ's only been babyface consistently for about a year now, being a former leader of Bullet Club and all, so he knows how to wrestle all kinds of different ways and was able to finish of Nakamura by the end of some solid back and forth. Maybe the spark that Nakamura needs to take him to the top is to go full on aggressive heel and stop giving all fucks? Mind games aren't quite enough when you're dealing with the ace of Smackdown, and with the return of Daniel Bryan, right now makes all the sense in the world for Nakamura to stand out from the crowd of talent beat the shit out of anyone who fucks with him.

The Intercontinental title match I liked on a rewatch about as much as I liked it the first time. One of the better matches on the show with two of the best wrestlers in the company (especially Rollins, dude was on fire in this match) and one of the best heel talkers they have. Not much to say here really, lots of fast paced action and a great way to start the show. Maybe even better than the Shane/AJ opener from last year, very different matches but both fantastic first matches that got the crowd off to a hot start.

The Daniel Bryan match was definitely hampered by the attempted semi-recreation of the Daniel Bryan stretcher spot from WM30 taking so damn long, but when Bryan first made his entrance and when he finally got in the match this was great. Owens and Zayn were successful heels in that they got booed when usually they get quite a few cheers, and they did everything they could to control the tempo of the match with Shane (who, understandably looked quite horrendous.) Bryan winning with the knee and Yes Lock right after slapping and kicking the fuck out of Sami. He's also got to be the biggest babyface in the company right now, him or Ronda.

Nia/Alexa was a little longer than I would have liked, but may actually be my favourite Alexa Bliss singles match I've seen, actually managing to look somewhat believably competitive against a woman over twice her size. Nia winning was a good moment too with the story leading up to the match.

Ali/Alexander felt like a 205 Live match. A good one, but still.

Roman Reigns got his ass whooped trying to get the crowd into this match, but they rejected it far worse than I anticipated. I know there was something going around saying people were gonna leave if AJ/Nak wasn't the main event, and I don't think depicting Lesnar as the biggest POS in the world against an inevitably going to be booed Reigns was a brilliant idea in terms of getting the crowd invested in SOMEONE in the match, but.. wow. "We want Nicholas!" "This match sucks!" Let me know if I missed anything else. This is all not even to mention the fact that Roman kicked out of like 6 F-5s, only to lose to.. wait for it, an F-5! Roman donning the crimson mask with his big dog face was the highlight of this match for me. As well as Roman getting F-5ed into a pool of his own blood. Definitely not the worst main event in Mania history, too much effort put in for me to say that but.. wow. Try again with the Roman coronation next year I suppose? And wtf is the deal with Brock? Does anyone even care anymore? Fuck.

I enjoyed the Taker/Cena segment/match a lot more than most people I think, but I have a hard time putting it above much on the card since it was so short and the ultimate reveal of Undertaker was.. whatever to me. I enjoyed Cena's selling with his facial and body reactions here, and if Taker's gonna be around a little longer it makes sense for him to get a quick, dominating win. Cena loses all the time now anyway.

Bar vs Strowman and Nicholas was really fun I thought, really cool moment for the kid (who Braun may have gotten over as one of the biggest faces in the company, at least for the next 24 hours), but again I have a hard time putting it above much. Cesaro and Sheamus had awesome new jackets and a cool NOLA style entrance. I'm not mad about the tag partner at all because it makes the most sense for Strowman to be a solo guy, or at least as solo as humanly (or monsterly) possible.

ATG Battle Royal was fun for what it was, Matt winning was cool as was Bray coming back to help. Bludgeons match was what it was. Women's battle royal was there, kinda wish they did more with Sasha and Bayley. And the Jinder match was disappointing only because I wanted Rusev to win and I don't really remember anything about the match. Don't really care to go back and watch either.

Overall I was really impressed with this Wrestlemania. I thought it was better than last years, certainly better than 32, and on par with 30 and 31. The main event brings it slightly down for me, but the undercard and the AJ/Nakamura were all good to great to maybe excellent. The rest of the matches in the bottom half of my rankings I really don't think were that bad at all, just there. I'll finish by saying the top three (maybe four) matches I thought were all great, and maybe tomorrow I'll think about it some more and I might say AJ/Nakamura was actually the best match or something, but for now I think Asuka/Charlotte was the best all around match on the card.

Well now, here perhaps is the reason why Brock retained last night.

WWE re-signed Brock Lesnar, and is gonna have a rematch with Roman Reigns for the Universal Title at The Greatest Royal Rumble in Saudi Arabia.

Straight from the mouth of WWE.

Oh and by the way, that match will be inside the steel cage.

Guess they wanted the title to change hands in the Middle East rather than having Reigns win and retain? Makes no sense he gets a rematch when he lost clean as a sheet, but whatever.

Apr 9, 2018 21:39:10 GMT CM Punk'd said:

Well now, here perhaps is the reason why Brock retained last night.

WWE re-signed Brock Lesnar, and is gonna have a rematch with Roman Reigns for the Universal Title at The Greatest Royal Rumble in Saudi Arabia.

Straight from the mouth of WWE.

Oh and by the way, that match will be inside the steel cage.

GAH! So was that whole Brock/Vince thing a work? If they mention it tonight it was a work. 

Evening team.

Brilliant PPV IMO. Really enjoyed it - felt it peaked early and progressively went downhill, but that initial starting point was so high, that ultimately didn’t matter.

Personal highlights for me were the IC title match - I just love those three guys, and especially loved how Miz was booked, even from the ramp onwards, plus I’m a huge Seth mark. I thought Ronda was awesome! What a fun match that was. Can’t wait to see her and Charlotte lock it up one day.

Main event didn’t do it for me, but more because I don’t see where you go with Brock at this point. Anyway, great fun as usual - hope you guys enjoyed it.

Apr 9, 2018 21:49:19 GMT Froggy said:

Evening team.

Brilliant PPV IMO. Really enjoyed it - felt it peaked early and progressively went downhill, but that initial starting point was so high, that ultimately didn’t matter.

Personal highlights for me were the IC title match - I just love those three guys, and especially loved how Miz was booked, even from the ramp onwards, plus I’m a huge Seth mark. I thought Ronda was awesome! What a fun match that was. Can’t wait to see her and Charlotte lock it up one day.

Main event didn’t do it for me, but more because I don’t see where you go with Brock at this point. Anyway, great fun as usual - hope you guys enjoyed it.

That is kind of my problem with Brock winning, dude has already killed off the entire roster including the red hot Strowman. 

Although I guess this cage match could be the out.  I mean it makes no sense to have Roman not win it at mania and get an automatic rematch in a cage BUT with that said I like the unpredictable nature they are going with right now.  Perhaps the only reason the WWE did it that way was to simply swerve the fans and nothing more.  

Apr 9, 2018 22:24:14 GMT vendrell said:

Apr 9, 2018 21:49:19 GMT Froggy said:

Evening team.

Brilliant PPV IMO. Really enjoyed it - felt it peaked early and progressively went downhill, but that initial starting point was so high, that ultimately didn’t matter.

Personal highlights for me were the IC title match - I just love those three guys, and especially loved how Miz was booked, even from the ramp onwards, plus I’m a huge Seth mark. I thought Ronda was awesome! What a fun match that was. Can’t wait to see her and Charlotte lock it up one day.

Main event didn’t do it for me, but more because I don’t see where you go with Brock at this point. Anyway, great fun as usual - hope you guys enjoyed it.

That is kind of my problem with Brock winning, dude has already killed off the entire roster including the red hot Strowman. 

Although I guess this cage match could be the out.  I mean it makes no sense to have Roman not win it at mania and get an automatic rematch in a cage BUT with that said I like the unpredictable nature they are going with right now.  Perhaps the only reason the WWE did it that way was to simply swerve the fans and nothing more.  

From what I’ve read, the plan is to have Roman win at this Rumble event in front of a more friendly crowd! Haha. Madness.

Apr 9, 2018 20:51:22 GMT theend said:

worst entrance - most of the women in the royal rumble just going in at once.

For time reasons this was more than acceptable but the issue with it is that they fucking showed it and it automatically made them all look like chumps even if one of those chumps did go on to win for some reason...i mean I actually enjoy Naomi but that was weird.  It just looked so awkward playing the music for Becky Lynch then trot out the chumps then play Bayley and half of a sasha entrance.  Somebody really fell asleep at the wheel on the timing on that one.  It should have been plugging paiges shitty movie and then we come back and the chumps are in the ring already and then we get Becky(who honestly didn't deserve her own entrance anyways) and then Bayley and then Sasha.

In all honesty, I'm surprised Brock is agreeing to that to trip. He doesn't strike me as a guy who wants to take a long flight. Perhaps that was in the contract though.

Apr 9, 2018 22:31:28 GMT vendrell said:

Apr 9, 2018 20:51:22 GMT theend said:

worst entrance - most of the women in the royal rumble just going in at once.

For time reasons this was more than acceptable but the issue with it is that they fucking showed it and it automatically made them all look like chumps even if one of those chumps did go on to win for some reason...i mean I actually enjoy Naomi but that was weird.  It just looked so awkward playing the music for Becky Lynch then trot out the chumps then play Bayley and half of a sasha entrance.  Somebody really fell asleep at the wheel on the timing on that one.  It should have been plugging paiges shitty movie and then we come back and the chumps are in the ring already and then we get Becky(who honestly didn't deserve her own entrance anyways) and then Bayley and then Sasha.

It was a TV commercial break.

Apr 9, 2018 22:32:29 GMT vendrell said:

In all honesty, I'm surprised Brock is agreeing to that to trip. He doesn't strike me as a guy who wants to take a long flight. Perhaps that was in the contract though.

Maybe that's what the supposed altercation was about? Or we just worked ourselves into a shoot or something.