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Post by Big Pete on Apr 12, 2018 8:23:45 GMT
Next week superstars from Raw & SmackDown have the opportunity to change brands and potentially enhance their careers. If you were in the position of Kurt, Steph, Shane & Paige who do you think will fair better on your brand?
For the sake of this exercise, let's go with 9 picks, since that was the number of trades made on last year's show. Tag Teams/Stables count as one pick as well.
Raw. 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9.
SmackDown 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9.
Raw Akam, Akira Tozawa (205 Live), Alexa Bliss, Alicia Fox, Apollo, Ariya Daivari (205 Live), Bayley, Big Cass (Injured), Big Show (Retired?), Bo Dallas, Braun Strowman, Bray Wyatt, Brock Lesnar (Universal Champion), Cedric Alexander (205 Live/WWE Cruiserweight Champion), Cesaro, Curt Hawkins, Curtis Axel, Dana Brooke, Dash Wilder, Dean Ambrose, Drew Gulack (205 Live), Elias, Ember Moon, Finn Balor, Gentleman Jack Gallagher (205 Live), Goldust, Gran Metalik (205 Live), Heath Slater, Hideo Itami (205 Live), Jason Jordan, Jeff Hardy, John Cena (Free Agent), Kalisto (205 Live), Kane, Karl Anderson, Lince Dorado (205 Live), Luke Gallows, Mandy Rose, Maryse, Matt Hardy, Mickie James, Mustafa Ali (205 Live), Neville (205 Live/Twiddling his thumbs waiting for a release), Nia Jax (Womens Champion), No Way Jose, Noam Dar (205 Live), R-Truth, Rezar, Rhyno, Roman Reigns, Ronda Rousey, Samoa Joe, Sasha Banks, Scott Dawson, Seth freakin Rollins (WWE IC Champion), Sheamus, Sonya Deville, The Brian Kendrick (205 Live), The Miz, Titus O'Neil, TJP (205 Live), Tony Nese (205 Live)
SmackDown! Aiden English, AJ Styles (WWE Champion), Baron Corbin, Becky Lynch, Big E, Billy Kay, Bobby Roode, Carmella (WWE Women's Champion), Chad Gable, Charlotte Flair, Chris Jericho, Daniel Bryan, Dolph Ziggler, Epico Colon, Fandango, Harper (WWE Tag Team Champion), Jey Uso, Jimmy Uso, Jinder Mahal (US Champion), Kofi Kingston, Konnor, Lana, Liv Morgan, Maria Kanellis, Mike Kanellis, Mojo Rawley, Naomi, Natalya, Nikki Bella, Peyton Royce, Primo Colon, Randy Orton, Rowan (WWE Tag Team Champion), Ruby Riott, Rusev, Samir Singh, Sarah Logan, Shelton Benjamin, Shinsuke Nakamura, Sin Cara, Sunil Singh, Tamina, Ty Dillinger, Tyler Breeze, Viktor, Xavier Woods, Zack Ryder
Free Agents Asuka (?), Kevin Owens, Sami Zayn
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Post by Big Pete on Apr 12, 2018 8:56:57 GMT
Raw. 1. Baron Corbin 2. Becky Lynch 3. Bobby Roode 4. Chad Gable & Shelton Benjamin 5. Charlotte Flair 6. Dolph Ziggler 7. Maria & Mike Kanellis 8. Kevin Owens 9. Ty Dillinger
The big gets are the rest of the Horsewomen to set up a match with them and Ronda's crew for Survivor Series. I like the idea of reuniting Gable with Jordan and either having them feud or team up, Benjamin just sweetens the pot. Corbin, Roode & Ziggler is about jump-starting their runs. Corbin has basically done all he can do and either needs fresh opponents or a release. Roode has just been floundering as a babyface, so bringing him to Raw, turning him heel and giving him a program with Rollins could be the way to go. Ziggler is there for the ride, but Raw could always do with some good hands and he's the type of guy who isn't doing anything on SD. Dillinger is a handy opening card guy who isn't being used effectively on SD and I think most people have forgotten about the Kanellis'. That's one of those sink or swim trades that has no bearing, sort of like Curt Hawkins from last year.
SmackDown 1. Asuka 2. Titus Brand Inc (Apollo, Dana Brooke, Titus O'Neil) 3. Big Cass 4. The Miztourage (The Miz, Bo Dallas, Curtis Axel & Maryse) 5. The Revival 6. Finn Balor 7. The Club 8. Absolution (Mandy Rose & Sonya Deville) 9. Jeff Hardy
If Asuka doesn't count, then bring over Goldust who can be a handy utility guy. The big picks here would be Balor & The Club who would help SmackDown with the perception of it being a NJPW-lite show with international elements. I believe Balor could be a great foil for either Nakamura, Styles or even Bryan at some point and the Club could really help out a lot of the former NJPW talent. Absolution would also be big as well since you have Paige as their GM trying her best to look after them and you have all these stables already going at it. The Riott Squad, Iconic Duo, Absolution and I'm sure you could put Natalya & Lana together to make it a fun series of matches. Big Cass can receive a fresh shot on SD and while it won't be pretty you can have him face off against Jinder Mahal, The Miz etc. or reunite him with Carmella and turn him heel. The Miztourage is there for one reason only - to feud with Daniel Bryan. OK there's more you can do as well with the New Day, The Bludgeons, Usos, Breezango etc. etc. Jeff would be out of left field, but this would be treated as his last big singles run and you could have him face off against so many guys like Nakamura, Balor, Bryan, Styles, Orton, Miz etc. If he's ever needed for those Woken Matt Hardy sketches, he'd be free to appear in that universe.
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Post by RT on Apr 12, 2018 15:08:19 GMT
Raw. 1. Charlotte 2. Rusev (no Aiden English..time for him to go to 205 Live and breathe some charisma into them) 3. Baron Corbin 4. Jinder Mahal 5. Kevin Owens 6. Tye Dillinger 7. Becky Lynch 8. The Usos 9. Randy Orton
SmackDown 1. Seth Rollins 2. Asuka 3. The Bar 4. Jeff Hardy 5. Cedric Alexander 6. Big Cass 7. The Revival 8. Mandy Rose & Sonya Deville 9. The Miz (no Miztourage, he'll be forced to leave them on Raw..they're kind of on the outs anyway)
Notes -I think Charlotte is a lock for Raw and picking her at #1 would be awesome. I don't think a woman has ever been a first overall pick. -I think they'll switch the IC and US titles and I hope they do. If the IC title goes to Smackdown, The Miz is going to try and chase it and we'll finally get a blow-off between him and Daniel Bryan in the process. Either The Miz will fight for his Smackdown spot and get drafted last, or he'll take some time off and return on Smackdown instead of Raw. -I think the GMs will work together to split up Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn, which is why only one of them will get drafted. The other will just stay on Smackdown. -I'm not certain anyone from 205 Live will be drafted, given it's supposed to be it's own thing, but if anyone does it'll be the Champ. -Smackdown's Tag Division needs a bit of a kick in the pants, because we can't just do The Usos vs. The New Day all the time (and I think The Usos are Raw-bound anyway), and the new Champs need some new challengers. Enter The Bar, the 4-time Raw Tag Team Champions, and The Revival, who will literally help "revive" the Smackdown tag team division.
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Post by Mistress on Apr 12, 2018 17:50:12 GMT
RT, Rusev and Aiden need to win Tag Gold first. They're far too good together to not to. Raw: Naomi Becky Natalya Baron Corbin New Day Mojo Rawley Jinder Mahal SD Dana Brooke Bayley Finn Balor The Club Rollins Samoa Joe I really don't need 9 picks. And since SD just got 2 ladies in the Iconic Duo, they should send 1 extra lady to Raw..
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Post by pduh on Apr 12, 2018 20:39:09 GMT
RAW: Randy Orton Jinder Mahal The Usos Becky Lynch Baron Corbin Kevin Owens Natalya Zack Ryder Chad Gable & Shelton Benjamin
Smackdown: Seth Rollins The Miz(No Miztrouz.) Askua Finn Bálor The Club The Revival Bayley Big Cass Sami Zayn
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Post by @admin on Apr 13, 2018 4:57:10 GMT
Raw: New Day Charlotte Dolph Ruby Riott Sarah Logan Jinder Mahal Bobby Roode
Smackdown: Asuka Balor Club Revival Mandy Rose Sasha Banks
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Post by RT on Apr 14, 2018 23:30:11 GMT
Hey question: I just realized nobody included Andrade Cien Almas on their lists, myself included. Is he officially on Smackdown or do you guys think he'll be one of Smackdown's picks to make it official?
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Post by vendrell on Apr 15, 2018 2:08:39 GMT
Raw: Owens Orton Daniel Bryan Big E(New day is split up) Becky Jinder Benjamin/Gable Charlotte Cien Almas With Zelina Vega.
SD: Rollins Balor Ember Samoa Joe(I have to think that WWE will try to relive a bit of triple threat magic with him and AJ and since no chris daniels, we can sub in Balor. Cesaro(the stuff with Sheamus has reached it's natural conclusion, time to end that tag team) The Revival Sasha Bayley Hawkins
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Post by c on Apr 15, 2018 23:25:53 GMT
I would really love to see El Generico and Mr Wrestling (complete with the black and white mask) debut on Raw as the hottest new team from Mexico and keep the gimmick until late summer or so. Have Owen's lose the mask in a match then just go psychotic for the build to the Rumble. Be a good way to keep them out of the mix, while boasting the tag team division.
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Post by Dukezilla on Apr 15, 2018 23:30:26 GMT
Alexa Bliss, Heath Slater and Rhyno return to SmackDown
Charlotte, Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn return to Raw
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Post by Emperor on Apr 15, 2018 23:39:01 GMT
I would really love to see El Generico and Mr Wrestling (complete with the black and white mask) debut on Raw as the hottest new team from Mexico and keep the gimmick until late summer or so. Have Owen's lose the mask in a match then just go psychotic for the build to the Rumble. Be a good way to keep them out of the mix, while boasting the tag team division. The audience would see right through that in a second. Most likely they would constantly chant "Zayn" and "Owens", giving the game away. Unless you mean a Mr. America angle where everyone knows who they are in kayfabe but the authority figures can't do anything about it because reasons. That might be interesting.
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Post by c on Apr 16, 2018 0:02:37 GMT
I assume it would be like the Machines where everyone knows, but commentary does not focus on it. I mean I would go as far as using their old ring names and shit, hence Mr. Wrestling. Beats them just getting rehired and negating the loser leaves stipulation yet again. Also lets them have fun for a while since there are getting to be too many "tough" guys around to really run Owens with the same gimmick and split them and Zayn is back to being lost in the mix.
And chanting for Owens and Zayn is better than the crowd chanting for Punk. But 4 to 6 weeks and the gimmick would settle and it will not matter if they start to question who they are as they will be temporarily rebranded. Then when they want to set up something big, have them drop the gimmick and destroy people.
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Post by CM Punk'd on Apr 16, 2018 1:32:36 GMT
Here's a bit of a Superstar Shakeup, just 24 hours before it gets underway.
John Cena and Nikki Bella are now free agents. They have split up after a six year relationship. As broken by US Weekly.
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Post by Big Pete on Apr 16, 2018 5:36:24 GMT
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Post by nazzer on Apr 16, 2018 6:53:39 GMT
I wonder who will be closest to the mark? @cm Punk'd SM @call @iron maiden c System @the Show KJ @g/B LS @the Kid @ness nazzer get your picks in. Not sure about the specifics. Going to Raw: 1. Charlotte 2. Becky Lynch 3. Abdrade Cien Almas 4. Randy Orton 5. Jinder Mahal 6. Aj Styles Going to Smackdown 1. Bayley 2. Miz 3. Seth Rollin I could probably put more effort into the trades, but I think the gist is that we will see Daniel Bryan and Miz on the Same show, Charlotte will move to Raw to face Rhonda eventually, Bayley will move for a fresh start, Top title won't change. Maybe the Usos will move to Raw for a chamge, which would be too bad because the raw formula destroys anything fun,
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Post by vendrell on Apr 16, 2018 14:49:00 GMT
I just realized I probably made SD way to appealing and WWE won't stand for that. SD really got the shitty end of the stick last year though so hopefully wwe doesn't try and fuck them over again.
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Post by SM on Apr 16, 2018 18:30:48 GMT
Here’s my picks:
RAW Usos Naomi Natalya Charlotte Tye Dillinger Bob Roode Dolph Ziggler Zack Ryder Ascension
SD The Miz Revival Sasha Banks Titus World Wide Dana Brooke Goldust Cesaro Mickie James Braun Strowman
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Post by LS on Apr 16, 2018 23:13:52 GMT
Raw. 1. Charlotte Flair 2. Kevin Owens 3. Randy Orton 4. Sami Zayn 5. Baron Corbin 5. Sarah Logan 6. Tye Dillinger 8. Breezango (Tyler Breeze, Fandango) 9. Natalya
SmackDown 1. Finn Balor 2. Alexa Bliss 3. Bayley 4. Cesaro 5. Samoa Joe 6. Sonya Deville 7. Jeff Hardy 8. Miztourage (Miz, Maryse, Dallas, Axel) 9. Dana Brooke
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Post by Call on Apr 16, 2018 23:32:50 GMT
Yes sir :lol: Going to Raw Charlotte Corbin Roode Usos Owens Going to Smackdown Miz Asuka Balor Revival Jeff Hardy
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Post by vendrell on Apr 17, 2018 3:32:30 GMT
Well I got Jinder and Owens correct.
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Post by Big Pete on Apr 17, 2018 3:44:52 GMT
Progress report
In cases where only half a pairing was transfered, I gave half a point.
BP - 5.5/10 RT - 4/10 Mistress - 4/10 pduh - 6.5/10 HR - 5/10 vendrell - 2.5/10 SM - 6/10 LS - 6.5/10 Call - 4/10
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Post by Mistress on Apr 17, 2018 3:46:30 GMT
Did you count the trades made after raw went off the air? Big Pete, Ryder, Mojo, ascension, and maria/Mike kanellis
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Post by Big Pete on Apr 17, 2018 4:04:03 GMT
Did you count the trades made after raw went off the air? Big Pete , Ryder, Mojo, ascension, and maria/Mike kanellis Sure did, although I'm not sure if Mike & Maria were officially a packaged deal. You would think so, but I only saw Mike was confirmed so only gave .5 if both were included. Gable has also been traded over minus Shelton Benjamin. I only penalised picks if they were half right. If you picked both Chad Gable and Shelton Benjamin then you'd only receive .5. However if you used one of your picks to pick a member of the Riott Squad, I gave you the full point.
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Post by SM on Apr 17, 2018 20:42:34 GMT
Here’s my picks: RAW Usos Naomi Natalya Charlotte Tye Dillinger Bob Roode Dolph Ziggler Zack Ryder Ascension Ones I got right: - Natalya - Bob Roode - Dolph Ziggler - Zack Ryder - Ascension
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Post by Dukezilla on Apr 17, 2018 21:22:36 GMT
Raw wrestlers that went on the South Africa tour:
Roman Reigns Seth Rollins Finn Balor Cesaro Sheamus Nia Jax Sasha Banks Mandy Rose Sonya Deville
Raw wrestlers whose status is unknown for the tour:
Elias Luke Gallows Karl Anderson Dash Wilder Scott Dawson Heath Slater Rhyno Curt Hawkins Dana Brooke Mickie James Bayley Goldust
Raw wrestlers that did not go on the tour:
Alexa Bliss Jeff Hardy Samoa Joe
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Post by vendrell on Apr 17, 2018 23:18:59 GMT
I'm glad they broke up Benjables. They never seemed quite right as a duo. Chad would have been perfect to play Kurts son, he kind of has that obnoxious whiner look about him that I think could have really got him some huge heat, and not in the "go away we hate you" heat that Jason Jordan had. Big missed opportunity by WWE on that one. Should have been Jason teaming with Shelton and Gable as kurts song. A real bummer.
I was actually glad for the Jinder trade as it automatically led to him losing the title and we don't have to sit through Randy Orton vs. Jinder again...hopefully.
Riot Squad I've never gave a fuck about so them being on raw is bleh and I'm assuming this means we lose Mandy Rose and Sonya on Raw. A pretty lateral move but I do feel Mandy has the most upside of any of these middle of the pack females.
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Post by Big Pete on Apr 18, 2018 2:22:34 GMT
Total BP: 10 RT: 9 Mistress: 6 pduh: 9.5 HR: 7.5 vendrell: 4.5 nazzer: 2 SM: 7 LS: 10.5Call: 6 LS takes it.
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Post by X-zero on Apr 18, 2018 22:23:35 GMT
I know my list is far to late to be official but between me and a buddy who do ppv picks and draft picks for a custom bragging rights title on WWE 2k games. Here is my list. As champion I had pick the rules for this one which was 15 picks total and if you wanted a tag team you had to use two of your picks.
Raw 1.Orton 2. Finn Balor 3. Becky Lynch 6. Jimmy Uso 7. Jey Uso 10. Baron Corbin 13. Bobby Roode 14. Jinder Mahal
Smackdown 4. Apollo Crews 5. Romen Reigns 8. Asuka 9. Cesaro 11. Sonya Deville 12. Sasha Banks 15. Seth Rollins
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