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Post by Mistress on May 14, 2018 22:46:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2018 22:52:21 GMT
It was dumb. The punches took away from the big boot statement. That and if the boss says no, you listen.
Then again he is a senile old man that's out of touch, so...
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Post by vendrell on May 14, 2018 23:43:09 GMT
There are battles worth fighting for Cass, getting a few extra punches in on this lame duck segment wasn't one of those battles you take to Vince. And he certainly should have known better than to just say fuck it and do it anyways. I mean I would understand it if Cass actually had an idea that while vince is saying no, he knows in the end it would be great and raise his stock, totally worth the risk. Adding a few extra punches in on a midget in a segment nobody gave a fuck about though...mind blowing that that is what your hill to die on.
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Post by Ed on May 14, 2018 23:51:26 GMT
If Cass was actually good in his match with Bryan I doubt would be much of an issue but since the match was a stinker it magnifies this story even more.
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Post by KING KID on May 15, 2018 2:40:59 GMT
Everyone should have already known that without Enzo, he was just seven feet tall.... and bland as fuck. The dying on the hill Forbes no reason is something I heard on a podcast too and it totally makes sense. The dude (Cass) is so out of touch if he thought that would make him look better. Badassery and brains mixed is something that some men have and you can’t teach that.
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Post by spladle125 on May 17, 2018 18:42:00 GMT
Cass is a Trumptard and I hate Trumptards
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Post by NATH45 on May 17, 2018 23:42:29 GMT
I personally just think it's beat-up bullshit on a show news day.
But the man is awful.
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Post by @admin on May 17, 2018 23:53:54 GMT
Bryan completely destroying Cass on Smackdown seemed like a pretty clear indication that he is in the doghouse - when does a big guy ever get his ass completely handed to him like that? I think if Joe waxes him next week we'll know for sure. I'm just glad things are trending towards Bryan getting to do something else rather than be stuck in a long feud that the post-match at Backlash hinted towards. Hopefully he can get into a more interesting program with someone like Almas that Big Pete talked about in the Smackdown thread.
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Post by Big Pete on May 18, 2018 14:12:46 GMT
It's Cryme Time all over again, where the best member of the stable also happens to be an idiot, gets himself fired and leaves the less talented member to fend for himself on the roster. The problem is that there's nothing there for Cass. He's 7 foot tall, but he just looks like a regular dude who has nothing interesting to say and doesn't carry himself like somebody who can kick your ass.
You compare him to guys like Braun Strowman, Bad Luck Fale, Jeff Cobb, WALTER etc. and it's just night and day. These guys know how to carry themselves and know how to impress the crowd. Cass has been with the company for 7 years now, the WWE needs to cut bait and look at other alternatives.
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Post by mvw on May 18, 2018 19:39:36 GMT
It's Cryme Time all over again, where the best member of the stable also happens to be an idiot, gets himself fired and leaves the less talented member to fend for himself on the roster. The problem is that there's nothing there for Cass. He's 7 foot tall, but he just looks like a regular dude who has nothing interesting to say and doesn't carry himself like somebody who can kick your ass. You compare him to guys like Braun Strowman, Bad Luck Fale, Jeff Cobb, WALTER etc. and it's just night and day. These guys know how to carry themselves and know how to impress the crowd. Cass has been with the company for 7 years now, the WWE needs to cut bait and look at other alternatives. Reportedly Vince is keen on him and you know that goes.
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Post by iron maiden on May 18, 2018 22:11:15 GMT
There is no convinction in his actions or words. I cannot back him as a heel because it's not believeable. Just like I'm not sure I could back Corbin as a face.
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Post by NATH45 on May 19, 2018 1:42:43 GMT
Stick a red mask on the guy and have him no-sell the shit out of everything. At least he might develop some personality.
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Post by KJ on May 19, 2018 11:12:56 GMT
There is just absolutely nothing at all remarkable about this guy. He sounds and acts like he is bored and only there so he doesn’t break a contractual obligation.. but that his heart is on a softball field or something. Dude, I bet he is a beast at softball.
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Post by System on May 19, 2018 15:26:09 GMT
It's Cryme Time all over again, where the best member of the stable also happens to be an idiot, gets himself fired and leaves the less talented member to fend for himself on the roster. The problem is that there's nothing there for Cass. He's 7 foot tall, but he just looks like a regular dude who has nothing interesting to say and doesn't carry himself like somebody who can kick your ass. You compare him to guys like Braun Strowman, Bad Luck Fale, Jeff Cobb, WALTER etc. and it's just night and day. These guys know how to carry themselves and know how to impress the crowd. Cass has been with the company for 7 years now, the WWE needs to cut bait and look at other alternatives. Getting falsely accused of rape isn’t Enzo’s fault
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Post by Big Pete on May 19, 2018 17:03:44 GMT
No, but his past behaviour denied him of receiving the benefit of the doubt.
If Enzo wants to continue wrestling, I wouldn't be surprised to see him back in the not too distant future. Hopefully that incident serves as a wake-up call for him because he is a fantastic promo.
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Post by mvw on May 19, 2018 21:13:40 GMT
No, but his past behaviour denied him of receiving the benefit of the doubt. If Enzo wants to continue wrestling, I wouldn't be surprised to see him back in the not too distant future. Hopefully that incident serves as a wake-up call for him because he is a fantastic promo. Probably ends up in Impact.
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Post by KJ on May 19, 2018 23:41:17 GMT
It's Cryme Time all over again, where the best member of the stable also happens to be an idiot, gets himself fired and leaves the less talented member to fend for himself on the roster. The problem is that there's nothing there for Cass. He's 7 foot tall, but he just looks like a regular dude who has nothing interesting to say and doesn't carry himself like somebody who can kick your ass. You compare him to guys like Braun Strowman, Bad Luck Fale, Jeff Cobb, WALTER etc. and it's just night and day. These guys know how to carry themselves and know how to impress the crowd. Cass has been with the company for 7 years now, the WWE needs to cut bait and look at other alternatives. Getting falsely accused of rape isn’t Enzo’s fault Falsely accused and lack of evidence are two very different things.
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Post by vendrell on May 20, 2018 0:52:17 GMT
Getting falsely accused of rape isn’t Enzo’s fault Falsely accused and lack of evidence are two very different things. So...your saying he's a rapist who just got off on lack of evidence? The accuser to my knowledge didn't seem like the most credible person in the world and if I recall even her friends were saying nothing happened. I mean I hate Enzo and throw the fucker under the jail if he did this but you sound like you have your mind made up that he did something based on accusation.
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Post by vendrell on May 20, 2018 0:58:03 GMT
As for Big Cass, his in ring work is garbage. He's 7 feet of shit and always was. I think his promos have been ok since his return, he's showing he can say more than "You can't teach that" but the fans don't seem to be buying him in this role. Some big guys have it and some don't, Cas doesn't. Daniel Bryan beating the ever loving shit out of him lets me know that Big Cas may be taken off tv soon and DB can move onto Miz for Summerslam.
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Post by KJ on May 20, 2018 1:06:15 GMT
Falsely accused and lack of evidence are two very different things. So...your saying he's a rapist who just got off on lack of evidence? The accuser to my knowledge didn't seem like the most credible person in the world and if I recall even her friends were saying nothing happened. I mean I hate Enzo and throw the fucker under the jail if he did this but you sound like you have your mind made up that he did something based on accusation. I’m not saying he’s guilty; I’m saying there wasn’t enough evidence to prosecute. That doesn’t mean he was falsely accused or not.
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Post by Mistress on May 20, 2018 1:22:47 GMT
KJ , you're acting like there was no way he could've been falsely accused, IE he's guilty...and your mind is made up Maybe there is a lack of evidence BECAUSE he was falsely accused...
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Post by Krimzon on May 20, 2018 2:54:01 GMT
KJ , you're acting like there was no way he could've been falsely accused, IE he's guilty...and your mind is made up Maybe there is a lack of evidence BECAUSE he was falsely accused... We don't know for certain what happened. She could have falsely accused him or the trail of evidence went cold and they couldn't proceed, which happens all the time in rape cases. It's an incredibly difficult thing to prove, which is partly why cases stall or never get reported in the first place. Nobody knows that he was in fact falsely accused. Nobody knows that he in fact raped her. The way things turned out, he is presumed innocent, but that doesn't necessarily prove he was falsely accused. It's a pretty terrible situation any way you slice it.
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Post by KJ on May 20, 2018 16:31:30 GMT
KJ , you're acting like there was no way he could've been falsely accused, IE he's guilty...and your mind is made up Maybe there is a lack of evidence BECAUSE he was falsely accused... It looks like he is taking a neutral stance as he stated that not enough evidence to go forward with a prosecution doesn’t either exonerate or compel for a conviction. As with most non-violent rape cases, it is typically a he-said, she-said situation since traditionally there are only two people in the room and no evidence to support either case and no witness to corroborate the story. Exactly. I think I’m being pretty damn neutral. I’m not saying his guilty; I’m not saying she falsely accused him. But I am calling people out who conflate no charges and innocence as the same thing.
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Post by System on May 21, 2018 16:20:31 GMT
Her story has an insane amount of holes in it, that have been thoroughly debunked and even her friend came out with a video as soon as allegations were made calling BS. Not exactly an OJ Simpson story.
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Post by vendrell on May 21, 2018 21:31:23 GMT
Enzo fucked up by not alerting WWE to this situation ahead of time. I have no issues with him getting fired, the guy seemed like he had a ton of heat with the boys and this was just one thing to many.
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Post by Mistress on May 22, 2018 12:20:15 GMT
KJ, you aren't acting like you're neutral, is what I'm saying.
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Post by KJ on May 22, 2018 23:59:27 GMT
KJ , you aren't acting like you're neutral, is what I'm saying. How is what I'm saying?
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