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Post by UT on Dec 31, 2018 2:58:15 GMT
A few coaches are already out and I suspect a handful more will be gone tomorrow. Out so far are McCarthy (yay me!) , Bowles (yay Blindy) and Koetter is out in Tampa. I'd also imagine that Riverboat Ron is going to get a look in Carolina , and Marrone in Jacksonville. Tomlin probably won't get fired but he should be up for consideration.
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Post by RagnarokMike on Dec 31, 2018 3:08:59 GMT
Despite his rash of bad decisions costing playoffs, he's never had a sub .500 season, and this is his first miss in years. I'd be flabbergasted if Tomlin was let go.
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Post by UT on Dec 31, 2018 3:11:35 GMT
Despite his rash of bad decisions costing playoffs, he's never had a sub .500 season, and this is his first miss in years. I'd be flabbergasted if Tomlin was let go. There's been rumblings for a few years now , and he always seems to make some of the dumbest decisions in the biggest games - which doesn't show well at all. I wouldn't put money on him being fired but I also wouldn't be shocked to see him and the Steelers part ways.
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Post by Blindy on Dec 31, 2018 3:13:32 GMT
Wilks, V. Joseph, seem like goners. Dan Quinn, Adam Gase and Matt Patricia are wildcard fires. Especially if Patricia's sexual harassment case flares up this offseason like it did during the preseason.
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Post by UT on Dec 31, 2018 3:17:41 GMT
Wilks, V. Joseph, seem like goners. Dan Quinn, Adam Gase and Matt Patricia are wildcard fires. Especially if Patricia's sexual harassment case flares up this offseason like it did during the preseason. Vance Joseph is a good shout. I don’t know about the rest though... I wouldn’t be totally shocked.
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Post by Blindy on Dec 31, 2018 3:22:05 GMT
As for Toddy, good riddance. Nice guy, I guess. Players didn't always play hard, players like Wilkerson, Sheldon Richardson, Trumaine Johnson routinely no showed meetings or came to practice late and were given slaps on the wrist until he was given no choice to anymore. Players like Jamal Adams said routinely that he came into a losing environment when drafted into the NFL and that these guys don't know how to win. Adams just did whatever he wanted on defense to try and help the team win, I don't blame him but when a 21-22 year old is undermining your defensive schemes, just yeah. Bowles handpicked guys like Buster Skrine and Mo Claiborne were penalty machines and also saw both Revi$ and Cromartie who Bowles alongside MccCagnan asked to be signed regress mightily. Zero development of players, can name with one hand guys who actually learned from him. His loyalty to Kacy Rogers is damning, stuck with him all the time as his DC when it was clear he was overmatched with such a position. Pepper Johnson a former DLine coach under Toddy even said Bowles plays favorites and will scapegoat someone if they aren't buying into what he is selling. AWFUL GAME MANAGER. PUNTS THE BALL LATE IN THE GAME DOWN 2 SCORES BECAUSE HE THINKS THE DEFENSE IN THIS DAY AND AGE CAN TURN IT OVER RATHER THAN SEE IF THE OFFENSE CAN MUSTER ANYTHING. Awful no timeout usages, could not find a pass rusher at any point his entire tenure. You can say he had no QB play, I get that. But he does control the defense and this defense REGRESSED year by year. I saw unprepared teams under his watch and numerous blowouts. Bruce Arians can vouch that the Jets did his boy wrong and I don't give a damn because Bowles was given everything and then some here with this team. He was overmatched with New York. His lack of expression drives you mad, there's zero pulse in this guy. Just stands there and silently watches without zero fucks given.
The biggest myth this guy will sell you is that the players fight for him. Not always true. I've seen so much quit on his squads copped off by today's 38-3 drubbing vs a half assed Pats team one foot in the playoffs. His halftime adjustments are notoriously awful, he has ZERO input on offense and just allowed Chan Gailey or Morton or Bates to do fuck all(Morton was actually DECENT but Toddy wants the ball to be ran, fuck throwing in 2017 in the NFL today HA so he got fired just because). Someone tell Bowles this isn't a run first game nowadays. He is so fucking oblivious to innovation and chance taking it's maddening.
He can go fuck off to DC or Arizona or Cincy or wherever as a defensive coordinator and throw his exotic blitzes out there for a paycheck for the next 10 or so years. He fucking sucks as a game planner and is overmatched whenever. He relied on Bruce Arians to run things and just stood in his comfort zone and that is that. He ain't Wade Phillips, don't give Bowles credit.
Go watch the Jets play the Titans this year and see how bitchmade of a game he called. Just sat on a lead and protected it until Mariota threw bombs on his garbage secondary. Secondary ALMOST as bad and almost as expensive as that 2016 debacle he and Kacy Rogers put out there to steal money from the fans. Fucking cowardly snake tail tucked in horseshit playcalling that Bowles told Bates to run. Aaron Rodgers on 1 good leg was laughing at what Bowles was throwing at him where he was just practically limping his runs to the end zone to show he can spank this defense in a multitude of ways.
Allowed Ryan Fuckin Fitzpatrick to run the show like a mafia mob leader like he's fucking worth a shit like he had the organization's balls in a vice grip. He had Eric Decker, Quincy Enunwa and Brandon Marshall shed years off their lifespan catching his overthrow garbage and he got spanked by Rex Ryan Week 17 when everything mattered. You'd think Bowles would have the balls to tell a journeyman scrub azz to fuck off with his demands.
Had Geno Smith get his jaw smashed his very first year as head coach which tells you all you need to know about how under control his locker rooms are. What other locker room do you have teammates fight and have your projected starting QB sidelined internally? That's Todd Bowles.
YOU WOULD THINK coaching under Andy Reid and Bill Parcells he'd have some pulse and feel of the game but NOPE. No creativity in his bones, run run run run run slant pass RB screen run run run run run. This ain't the fucking 80's dipshit, Joe Gibbs style of play ain't fucking running the town in today's NFL asswipe. I ain't excusing Bates or Gailey's shit playcalling of 2018 and 2016 by any means but it's Bowles telling them to go conservative because he thinks his fucking 12 men(Yes 12 men BECAUSE BOWLES THINKS DEFENSES HAVE 12 MEN AS WE GET CALLED FOR THAT EVERY OTHER GAME UNDER HIS TENURE) on defense are the 85 Bears. And his penalties, what a fucking shame. Disciplinary my ass, he fucking sucks. So much dumb penalties on his watch, holds ZERO players accountable for it.
I actually liked the hire of Bowles, I really really thought we found someone good coming off a good year for the Cardinals. How wrong was I? God damn. Just find me someone with creativity, a fresh mind, someone who understands throwing the ball with your franchise QB is how you win games. Go find someone in college or a coordinator in the pros. Wherever, Give me something fun to watch on offense. I haven't seen throws so deep in AGES. AGES. You guys get to watch your QBs throw 20+ yards so free, I watch run run run run RB screen run run run PUNT PUNT PUNT KICK.
I am NOT going to be picky in who they hire. But please all I ask is DO NOT HIRE BRIAN SCHOTTENHEIMER. DONT BE FOOLED BY PETE CARROLL PUPPETEERING THIS SHOW IN SEATTLE. SO HELP ME GOD IF THE DUMBASS JETS HIRE THIS FUCKING CHARLATAN AGAIN AFTER HE DESTROYED YOUR CHANCE AT GETTING TO THE SUPER BOWL. DONT EVEN INTERVIEW HIM. I will tell you right now if they hire this fucking schmuck I will not watch the Jets until he is ousted in a year or two. I am dead serious. I wanted to smack his fucking little bitch face after what he pulled in 2009 and 2010 on this fanbase.
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Post by Blindy on Dec 31, 2018 14:28:53 GMT
Steve Wilks officially gone. Cruel to go after one year. Their GM after his DUI somehow kept his job Steve Keim I think. Same guy who threw money at Bradford rather than protect Rosen with a line. Now they will force a coach to take on Rosen who looked like shit and talked up a big game by calling Mayfield and Darnold mistakes.
Shame Fitzgerald is gone after such a year.
Sucks about Mayock being a GM for the Oakland Raiders. It's still Grudens called though I guess Mayock will be into the draft portion. I liked his mock draft coverage huge blow for the NFL Network and he was also a good commentator for the Irish when he did games. Wonder who takes his spot as they try and put someone to go against Kiper Jr.
I'd say this is some batshit crazy move but Gruden is making the calls in Oakland and we just saw a Fox commentator jump to GM in Lynch.
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Post by UT on Dec 31, 2018 14:56:55 GMT
Wow a bunch happening. Rivera and Marrone are back and Vance Joseph is also gone.
Sucks for Wilks in Arizona , he had an absolutely terrible roster and a rookie quarterback , and was in a pretty tough division with both the Seahawks and Rams. I don't know exactly what they expected this season in Zona but it seems like he never had much of a shot to do anything.
Also Mayock being a GM should be interesting. I loved his coverage on NFL Network and it is a blow for them , I'm a big Daniel Jeremiah fan though so I think they'll be okay.
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Post by UT on Dec 31, 2018 15:24:35 GMT
Holy shit! The Apocalypse is near! The Bengals have actually fired Marvin Lewis.
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Post by KING KID on Dec 31, 2018 15:36:56 GMT
Oh shit. There’s actually a thread on this.
Just to chime in one opinion, Adam Gase didn’t deserve to be fired.
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Post by Blindy on Dec 31, 2018 16:00:49 GMT
Oh shit. There’s actually a thread on this. Just to chime in one opinion, Adam Gase didn’t deserve to be fired. He didn't and given how offensive crazy the league is and that he's good with Qbs he will land somewhere. Maybe Arizona if he believes in Rosen. I would not be upset if he is with the Jets. He'd have Vance Joseph as his DC again which to be honest doesn't impress me given the Broncos defense regressed each year under him. You can only do so much with Tannehill and an older Cutler, and he had a mediocre GM in Tannenbaum who goes for short term fixes instead of long ones.
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Post by Blindy on Dec 31, 2018 16:03:02 GMT
Holy shit! The Apocalypse is near! The Bengals have actually fired Marvin Lewis. It's been nice knowing most of you! Marvin's gonna save face and retire and join a team as a consultant but get your rations because 2019 is a day of utter maelstrom. I will laugh if Hue Jackson is hired for the Bengals that is just cruel for Bengal fans. It is Mike Brown we are talking about here. Given how long he kept the Browns gig and that he had such pull to give up two first round picks for Carson Fucking Palmer I think he has the ammo already to force Brown to hire him. He became the DEFENSIVE coordinator after all. Now all I need is Jeff Fisher as head coach again. Fucking will eat babies if Miami has him at head cosch I kid you not. I want that snake oil salesman to get back on his feet. Miami is the epitome of 8-8/7-9 so it is a match made in heaven.
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Post by CM Punk'd on Dec 31, 2018 16:14:35 GMT
The Raiders hiring Mike Mayock as GM is quite interesting. Arguably the best draft guru out there, and a guy with probably knows a thing or two on picking the best talent for each position.
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Post by Blindy on Dec 31, 2018 16:20:18 GMT
The Raiders hiring Mike Mayock as GM is quite interesting. Arguably the best draft guru out there, and a guy with probably knows a thing or two on picking the best talent for each position. They have the ammo after giving up Cooper and Mack and maybe Carr too so they have to hit on the picks. Mayock has Alot of responsibility to make these picks work. Because if they don't hit on the draft picks then back to NFL Siberia they go.
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Post by KING KID on Dec 31, 2018 16:30:06 GMT
Yeah, they absolutely need to hit on those first rounders this season. They got 5 in 2 years. They need to hit 3 minimum. MINIMUM! They got the 4th pick and two high ones in the first round this year. You need to nail 2/3 of them and hope the one that’s not nailed is serviceable. The Chiefs aren’t going anywhere, the Chargers are getting old. You just need to make sure you beat Denver to the punch.
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Post by UT on Dec 31, 2018 17:20:01 GMT
Gase is now out in Miami , Blindy nailing them all right now.
Gase is another case of working with a talent depleted roster , I mean there were a lot of times this season where 135 year old Frank Gore was their best offensive fucking weapon and Brock Osweiler was starting - the guy still made them competitive all season. I think he did quite a good job.
I wouldn't mind the Packers giving him a look , Head Coach wouldn't be terrible but in a perfect world he would come in as an OC. I would like to see him work with an elite quarterback again.
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Post by thereallt on Dec 31, 2018 17:49:25 GMT
Don't get me wrong, Bowles deserved to get fired. But how is Geno Smith being a cheap punk who won't pay back $200 and then pops his mouth about it Bowles' fault?
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Post by mikec on Jan 1, 2019 4:11:27 GMT
If the Jets take Eric Bienemy I fully believe that Andy Reid could prop up Bernie from Weekend at Bernie’s on the sideline and get him a head coaching job.
Nothing against Bienemy (or Nagy or the Eagles coach), but he’s been an offensive coordinator for a year on a team where he doesn’t call the plays. I get that the Reid tree has worked out pretty well lately, but that doesn’t mean everybody needs a KC offensive coordinator. Already enough former KC personnel guys running Chicago, Indy and Cleveland, let’s not have half the teams running our system.
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Post by Blindy on Jan 2, 2019 16:08:16 GMT
Don't get me wrong, Bowles deserved to get fired. But how is Geno Smith being a cheap punk who won't pay back $200 and then pops his mouth about it Bowles' fault? It's his locker room and responsibility all training camp and OTAs to get unison within the team and to have some know on what the heck is going on. If Joe Philbin gets burned for both Incognito and Pouncey bullying and mocking Martin for that long in Miami, than Bowles isn't excused regardless if Geno Smith owed money or not.
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Post by Blindy on Jan 2, 2019 16:13:42 GMT
If the Jets take Eric Bienemy I fully believe that Andy Reid could prop up Bernie from Weekend at Bernie’s on the sideline and get him a head coaching job. Nothing against Bienemy (or Nagy or the Eagles coach), but he’s been an offensive coordinator for a year on a team where he doesn’t call the plays. I get that the Reid tree has worked out pretty well lately, but that doesn’t mean everybody needs a KC offensive coordinator. Already enough former KC personnel guys running Chicago, Indy and Cleveland, let’s not have half the teams running our system. For that reason alone I don't want Bienemy. Seems like it's NE with the defensive coordinators whether it was Crenell, Mangini or Patricia when it's Belichick having ultimate say on the gameplanning and preparation for the defense only with offense this time around. I need a playcalling of some form.
Todd Monken seems like my guy. Despite Fitztragic speaking highly of the man after Ryan had his annual couple game tease before falling back down to earth yearly bullshit, I like how aggressive he was and that the Bucs offense fell apart when Koetter took playcalling duties away from him to buy him more time like when he fired Mike Smith in season. He's my top hire, think he'd be a good fit for Darnold.
I LIKE Kingsbury but I wanted him as OC but he'd only come to NFL as a HC which sucks. I refuse to hold the Texas Tech struggle solely on him, his offenses carried the team he just got nothing from defense. Pair him with a Gregg Williams/Vic Fangio/Wade Phillips esque lifer on defense and you got something. Maholmes, Mayfield(Though he threw Kliff under the bus before going to Oklahoma when Kliff sided with the superior Mahomes), Davis Webb(Current Jet and ex Giant worth 3rd stringer in the league) and Manziel in Texas A&M. He has something going with QBs and getting some talent out of the offenses he ran, gimmick or not. I would not hate if he is chosen either.
Monken or Kingsbury. I'm okay with Gase too. That's about it though.
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Post by @admin on Jan 5, 2019 0:56:02 GMT
Nagy only called plays for about a month though and he's been fantastic so far as a head coach. Hiring anyone who's worked with Andy Reid on offense seems about as logical a hire as you can get.
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Post by UT on Jan 6, 2019 15:42:23 GMT
The Packers coaching search has the odds on favorite to be McDaniels. Apparently the job is his if he wants it and the Packers are the only team he's scheduled.
If he doesn't take the job I don't like the rumors. Jim Caldwell's name is being brought way too fucking much. I might lose my shit if Caldwell becomes the next Packers coach. What does any team see in that robot?
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Post by Blindy on Jan 6, 2019 15:46:32 GMT
The Packers coaching search has the odds on favorite to be McDaniels. Apparently the job is his if he wants it and the Packers are the only team he's scheduled. If he doesn't take the job I don't like the rumors. Jim Caldwell's name is being brought way too fucking much. I might lose my shit if Caldwell becomes the next Packers coach. What does any team see in that robot? They look at his wins and losses and see outside of one miserable year in Indy where Peyton went down and they threw the likes of Orlovsky and Painter out there for the sake of getting Luck I guess. I do think seeing how the Lions went from 9 wins to the 5 wins they barely mustered with Patricia with a similar roster helps Caldwell's case. Maybe he's just a Rooney rule bystander for the Packers to meet due to sheer obligations. I don't want him either, he screams 7-9 and no excitement. He has the same low key demeanor that Bowles got bashed for. I imagine much like with Peyton towards the end of his Colts run, Caldwell is low key and lax enough to let Rodgers do his thing and won't upset Aaron Rodgers like what McCarthy tried to do often. McDaniels is a blow hard, I would not touch him. Saw in Denver with him banging the desk for Tim Tebow to be drafted how much of an oaf he is. His bolting of the Colts says what kind of a character he is. He relies on "Tom Terrific" to bail his playcalling out. He calls an average game, he just runs uptempo enough to wither defenses down and lets his HOF QB do the rest.
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Post by UT on Jan 6, 2019 15:53:36 GMT
They also seen him first hand and owned his ass in Detroit , his offenses were as boring and lacked the same innovation that was McCarthy's eventual undoing. I don't think it's a Rooney rule thing because they have also been linked to Flores ... it's just ugh.
I like McDaniels and he doesn't call a horrible game. Plus he knows how to scheme people open.
I don't care about his Denver stop years ago when he was still fairly young , and the Colts thing is a red flag but it's a risk I'm willing to take.
Matt LaFleur is another name that has comes up , which would be interesting and very similar to the McCarthy hiring.
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Post by Blindy on Jan 6, 2019 16:02:01 GMT
I mean if you are going to hire Caldwell, you might as well stick with Philbin since Packers offensive players want him to stay and he's the ultimate pacifist and would let Rodgers run the rodeo and give him essential full control.
I still think it might be Gase for the Green Bay job. He's another guy who sat in the sun and looks pretty while letting Manning run amok in Denver and even pampered and catered to Jay Cutler in Chicago although I think he was alright in Miami given what he had to work with. He is the QB's best friend sort of guy, he would outright protect Tannehill any chance he could from any criticism. I think he'd get along with Rodgers, IDK about the other guys if some of the reports that came out late in Miami have merit. That's my lone fear for wanting Gase, how suspect he was in handling players and managing them.
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Post by UT on Jan 6, 2019 16:05:42 GMT
I like Gase as well , I wouldn't hate the hiring and he's been scheduled for an interview. The reports are just what I said though and generally the Packers writers are pretty accurate.
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Post by @admin on Jan 7, 2019 1:04:04 GMT
Gase might have just been unable to get out of the Miami .500 malaise but I remember listening to an interview with him preseason where he literally said he wasn't sure what identity he wanted his team to have. I'd be concerned if a first year HC said that, let alone someone who was entering their third season, and the results spoke for themselves.
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Post by KING KID on Jan 7, 2019 13:58:50 GMT
Although I like Gase, one big complaint I heard about him is some players from Miami saying that they’re not mad he’s gone because he only catered to “his guys”. I guess that means Tannehill. I guess that’s why he also didn’t have Kenyan Drake on the field as much as he should have.
I wouldn’t want the same thing to be said about Aaron Jones again.
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Post by Blindy on Jan 7, 2019 23:41:00 GMT
Packers welcome Titans OC Matt Lafleur to the family as the head coach. I don't get the hire and why he's a hot commodity? What did he do for the Titans offense lately? Run the ball decently I guess? You draft that much talent you are bound to run the ball well enough...
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Post by @admin on Jan 7, 2019 23:48:33 GMT
He's not the sexiest name but it's not like he doensn't have success under his belt. QB coach during Matt Ryan's MVP season and OC of the Rams when they made their big turnaround in Sean McVay's first season.
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