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Post by UT on Aug 16, 2019 16:53:28 GMT
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Post by UT on Aug 16, 2019 17:01:40 GMT
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Post by 🤯 on Aug 16, 2019 17:03:25 GMT
So many good movies from this decade.
This countdown is going to be a pure joy ride.
Blazing Saddles didn't make my list, but probably my favorite Mel Brooks joint.
That ending sequence really put it over the top for me. Loved it!
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Post by UT on Aug 16, 2019 17:03:32 GMT
Have yet to see Blazing Saddles. I wouldn't mind giving it a shot someday but I have a feeling I'll need to be in the right kind of mood and it's not going to ever be super high on my list so probably won't be before this countdown is over. Some really hilarious quotes I was reading though.
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Post by thereallt on Aug 16, 2019 17:48:21 GMT
Blazing Saddles was my #3. Easily the best comedy of the decade and hands down one of Mel Brook's finest.
Also has one of the most epic themes ever..
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Post by PB on Aug 17, 2019 11:54:46 GMT
I somehow haven't seen Blazing Saddles yet - but do intend to if I ever get the chance.
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Post by UT on Aug 17, 2019 16:42:09 GMT
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Post by UT on Aug 17, 2019 16:44:06 GMT
I have never "gotten" Woody Allen in the bit of movies of his I tried to watch , and the fact that he's a creep means I probably won't ever really give him a shot again. I don't blame anyone that does and his comedy/style connects to a lot of people but I don't think it's for me.
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Post by Emperor on Aug 17, 2019 17:15:54 GMT
I'm a little surprised a Woody Allen movie made the list. But I like it. I understand that his style isn't for everyone, but it sits quite well with me.
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Post by Lionheart on Aug 17, 2019 17:44:38 GMT
YES! YES! YES!
MY LIST...MADE A DIFFERENCE!!!
I am so satisfied. Manhattan is so good. It kicks the ass of that Annie Hall movie. Fuck yeah. I placed this at #8.
Woody Allen is a genius and most of his movies are of a very high quality. I don’t always like all of them, but I like most and this one is probably the best.
His films promotes critical thinking and deep thought over just accepting societal norms like a sheep. Very intelligent dialogue.
Not pseudo-intellectual in any way.
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Post by UT on Aug 17, 2019 17:49:52 GMT
YES! YES! YES! MY LIST...MADE A DIFFERENCE!!! I am so satisfied. Manhattan is so good. It kicks the ass of that Annie Hall movie. Fuck yeah. I placed this at #8. Woody Allen is a genius and most of his movies are of a very high quality. I don’t always like all of them, but I like most and this one is probably the best. His films promotes critical thinking and deep thought over just accepting societal norms like a sheep. Very intelligent dialogue. Not pseudo-intellectual in any way. Accepting societal norms likes it’s not okay to fuck your stepdaughter? Talk about pseudo intellectual bullshit that only exists to justify the fact you’re a god damn creep.
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Post by Lionheart on Aug 17, 2019 19:11:00 GMT
YES!
I have succeeded again. UT is now using the term pseudo-intellectual while seriously mad. It’s not just a joke anymore. It has caught on!
I started a new fad!
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Post by UT on Aug 17, 2019 19:15:20 GMT
YES! I have succeeded again. UT is now using the term pseudo-intellectual while seriously mad. It’s not just a joke anymore. It has caught on! I started a new fad! I’m not mad. Its just bullshit.
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Post by Emperor on Aug 17, 2019 19:26:51 GMT
I don't know nor care what Woody Allen did in his personal life. Same with Roman Polanski (he did something bad, apparently). I can separate the art from the artist, but I can understand if some people can't.
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Post by UT on Aug 17, 2019 19:37:29 GMT
I don't know nor care what Woody Allen did in his personal life. Same with Roman Polanski (he did something bad, apparently). I can separate the art from the artist, but I can understand if some people can't. I don’t blame people who can or do , I can in some cases. However considering it just a viewpoint outside of the societal norm is wrong and Manhattan from what I understand is akin to the fact he is a scumbag in real life.
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Post by thereallt on Aug 17, 2019 20:15:53 GMT
I have never "gotten" Woody Allen in the bit of movies of his I tried to watch , and the fact that he's a creep means I probably won't ever really give him a shot again. I don't blame anyone that does and his comedy/style connects to a lot of people but I don't think it's for me. My thoughts exactly. I thought he was highly overrated even before all of that came out, and now I consider him lower than whale shit.
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Post by The Kid on Aug 17, 2019 20:33:55 GMT
I'm just curious what poor interactions thereallt, had with whale shit. I haven't had a single (good or bad) interaction with whale shit in my life, but from the sounds of it here; it's horrible. So far I'm 0-2 on this list.
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Post by PB on Aug 17, 2019 20:33:59 GMT
YES! YES! YES! MY LIST...MADE A DIFFERENCE!!! I am so satisfied. Manhattan is so good. It kicks the ass of that Annie Hall movie. Fuck yeah. I placed this at #8. Woody Allen is a genius and most of his movies are of a very high quality. I don’t always like all of them, but I like most and this one is probably the best. His films promotes critical thinking and deep thought over just accepting societal norms like a sheep. Very intelligent dialogue. Not pseudo-intellectual in any way. Manhattan was number seven on my list - but I had Annie Hall on there as well. It's really a great film that flies really quickly. I love how Manhattan itself is almost a character in the film. Great acting, great dialogue and it looks great as well. Glad it made the list.
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Post by thereallt on Aug 17, 2019 20:40:11 GMT
I'm just curious what poor interactions thereallt , had with whale shit. I haven't had a single (good or bad) interaction with whale shit in my life, but from the sounds of it here; it's horrible. So far I'm 0-2 on this list. Whale shit sits at the bottom of the ocean. You don't get much lower than that.
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Post by The Kid on Aug 17, 2019 20:50:26 GMT
I'm just curious what poor interactions thereallt , had with whale shit. I haven't had a single (good or bad) interaction with whale shit in my life, but from the sounds of it here; it's horrible. So far I'm 0-2 on this list. Whale shit sits at the bottom of the ocean. You don't get much lower than that. Ah. Interesting.
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Post by RT on Aug 17, 2019 22:17:33 GMT
Blazing Saddles was on my list near the bottom but fell off pretty quickly. Great comedy but there was just too much competition for this list.
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Post by Lionheart on Aug 17, 2019 23:20:29 GMT
Blind judgment. Most people are so convinced that he is scum after hearing one thing that they hardly give it half a thought before labelling him as a creepo and wanting nothing to do with him.
Well things aren’t so black and white. Here is the full story.
When Allen and Mia Farrow began a relationship, she had seven children including the adopted Soon-Yi Previn. Allen and Farrow never moved in together. They lived in separate apartments. He never stayed the night a single time. She adopted another child and Allen was not involved in the adoption whatsoever. They eventually stopped dating. Allen claims he had little to no interaction with Soon-Yi during this time. While this may or may not be true, it's certainly possible considering how many children she had and how he never even stayed the night. Even if it's not true, kids certainly don't immediately associate someone as their father just because their mother starts dating them. Both claim he was in no way a father figure to her ever.
Speaking of father figures, Soon-Yi never even saw her mother as a mother-figure. Her and another of the adopted kids claim that they were physically abused by Mia Farrow during their childhood. She says she can't recall a single pleasant moment with the woman who held her upside down by the foot, threw things at her, and often slapped her. It's pretty clear they weren't much of a family even without involving Allen who didn't even live with them.
According to Soon-Yi and Allen, they began a relationship shortly after Allen and Farrow had broken up. Soon-Yi, then a 22-year old perfectly fucking capable of making her own decisions, continued to date Allen for 6 years when they then decided to get married. They've been married for 22 years and have raised two children together.
You may not like the fact that he fell in love with a girl much younger than him and that she was adopted by a woman Allen was dating prior to their relationship, but this does not make him a fucked up creep. That is just your imposed societal values that you have, not values that they have. She decided to date him on her own. If you don't think a 22 year-old should be allowed to date whoever she wants, that's just ridiculous. And if you think the relationship is so horribly wrong that it makes him inexcusably creepy, I'd like to see you go tell that to Soon-Yi and their children who love him.
Not everyone cares about shit like meaningless taboos to not date someone just because they were adopted by someone you were dating. Deal with it. The fact that he has been tried and sentenced and is "lower than whale shit" for having a loving relationship pisses me off. Think a little before lambasting someone with scorn undeservedly just because you heard something about them that sounded wrong to you.
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Post by UT on Aug 17, 2019 23:52:58 GMT
22? Again bullshit because according to Allen himself , Farrow found nude photos of Soon-Yin prior to that and Allen admitted to having sex with her weeks prior to that. Also they met when she was 8 and admittedly spent a ton of time together and he enjoyed the fact that her younger self had a crush on him.
Also there’s the claims from another kid about sexual abuse.
But go ahead and justify this kind of behavior. It makes you a fucking creep as well , especially claiming it’s subverting societal norms. Have you ever seen an interview with a pedophile? That’s the same shit they say - “I wasn’t assaulting her , it was love”. Fucking please die.
All that is to say that Manhattan seemingly is just his love letter to his sick desires and fantasies. Fuck Woody Allen. Fuck this movie and fuck you if you defend it.
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Post by Lionheart on Aug 18, 2019 0:28:03 GMT
She was 22 when the photos were found. Weeks prior to being 22 is still 22 or 21. What the fuck? How hard is that to look up? Especially if you're going to randomly accuse me of being full of shit over it.
Yes, they may have "met" when she was 8. And as I said, he was in no way her father and claims to have rarely interacted with her during that time. She was actually physically abused by her supposed "mother" that adopted her but no one gives a fuck about that because it's not "creepy". They were no fucking family in the first place by any definition in my book. And Woody Allen didn't even live with this non-family. The first time they spent time together was when she was in 11th grade, so around 16 years old. This is already the age of consent where I grew up in Nevada and they were nowhere near dating at this point anyway. She's capable of making her own decision to fuck him at 22 if she wants, and she did, and you just don't like it. So you are calling people creepy to feel better.
The "claims of sexual abuse" from the other kid involved a story that has key details that have changed completely numerous times. This is known. You can look it up. It never even went to trial. Social services investigated the incident and determined "No credible evidence was found that the child named in this report has been abused or maltreated. This report has, therefore, been considered unfounded." But you can go ahead and just believe it happened with zero reason to actually do so if that makes you feel better too.
But "justifying this behavior" of simply dating someone younger and not raping someone somehow makes me a creep as well. A pedophile is wrong when they say that because first of all, they haven't been in a loving relationship for 22 fucking years and are just some asshole making shit up, but also because THEY ARE A PAEDOPHILE BECAUSE THE CHILD WAS UNDERAGED. Soon-Yi was NOT. You just want to believe something bad happened here because you've already made up your mind and it's a good story that you want to believe so you can be offended.
Apparently I'm creepy just for logically analyzing whether it was even a fucked up thing that occurred in the first place. I guess we should just start throwing accused murderers in prison right away without a trial because what they are accused of is so horrible that if anyone defends them, they are also fucked up.
But yes, fuck Woody Allen and me. You're not being an ass at all.
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Post by UT on Aug 18, 2019 0:35:37 GMT
No they were found when she was 21 and they admitted to having relations before that , so you’re information still isn’t correct that she was 22 - albeit arbitrary because it was simply a year and the bigger picture is far different. I don’t even know that I can continue this asinine conversation with your “logical thinking” behind all of this because I’m clearly talking to a fucking creep who defends this type of disgusting shit. There isn’t a gray area , there isn’t justification , it’s black and white regardless of whatever cockamamie defense and history you want to build. You don’t fuck your stepchildren , ever , it’s not that hard.
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Post by Lionheart on Aug 18, 2019 1:14:33 GMT
You haven’t said anything except that I was off by a year and am now somehow creepy myself. You should at least consider that you might have made some presumptions that are wrong.
She was also technically not even his stepdaughter so...you know, your “it’s simple and not that hard don’t fuck your stepdaughter” lines are kind of silly in this context.
In any case, I don’t want to escalate this further and will leave it at that. I don’t think you are an ass in general. Everyone can be one sometimes.
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Post by The Kid on Aug 18, 2019 1:43:10 GMT
Well apparently UT has not been on PornHub lately because step-mom porn is kind of the thing right now.
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Post by UT on Aug 18, 2019 1:47:38 GMT
You haven’t said anything except that I was off by a year and am now somehow creepy myself. You should at least consider that you might have made some presumptions that are wrong. She was also technically not even his stepdaughter so...you know, your “it’s simple and not that hard don’t fuck your stepdaughter” lines are kind of silly in this context. In any case, I don’t want to escalate this further and will leave it at that. I don’t think you are an ass in general but everyone can be one sometimes. No I just don’t care to justify it nor am I going to go copy and paste every report but moving on...
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Post by RagnarokMike on Aug 18, 2019 5:16:39 GMT
I'm ashamed to say...I forgot Blazing Saddles came out in the 70's. How could I forget one of the greatest comedies of all time?
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Post by 🤯 on Aug 18, 2019 13:55:53 GMT
Pleased to see Manhattan make it! I dug it and Annie Hall in college, haven't revisited them since. Midnight in Paris is the best Woody Allen film, IMO, or rather my favorite Woody Allen film.
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