Stephen Ross is up there for being one of the worst owners though. With his pro Trump banging that annoyed his players, ineptitude with hires and fires, and lack of commitment to putting money into the organization in the past, he isn't a good owner.

But money is money and first overall pick is big for most if not all. Tua doesn't have a dad raking in Dough ala Luck or P Manning to afford to sit a year.

If the Redskins or jets get first pick though he might stay. Why get dicked around by the process of those teams already having franchise QBs at least by draft pick status of getting traded to unless Haskins is Josh Rosen type of bad.

if Miami or Cincy get first pick hes all in.

Oct 1, 2019 23:19:41 GMT @admin said:

Oct 1, 2019 22:43:34 GMT Ed said:

Mainly because I hate the Dolphins and I like watching Tua play. That franchise is just a dumpster fire.

That's being hyperbolic. There's no inherent losing culture like Baker had to deal with when he was drafted by Cleveland, there are worse owners like in Washington, and Miami will always be an attractive team to players because it's a nice place to live with no state income tax. People have killed the Dolphins for years for being a consistently irrelevant 8-8 team, and now that they make a move to change that they are suddenly a disaster zone? Nah. 

I think what Miami is doing is logical but it could also be a disaster time will tell. I've thought the fish have been garbage for 20 years. At least this current regime sees a light at the end of the tunnel.

Oct 1, 2019 23:45:43 GMT Blindy said:

Stephen Ross is up there for being one of the worst owners though. With his pro Trump banging that annoyed his players, ineptitude with hires and fires, and lack of commitment to putting money into the organization in the past, he isn't a good owner.

Maybe Tua's a Trump supporter!

Oct 2, 2019 0:00:25 GMT @admin said:

Oct 1, 2019 23:45:43 GMT Blindy said:

Stephen Ross is up there for being one of the worst owners though. With his pro Trump banging that annoyed his players, ineptitude with hires and fires, and lack of commitment to putting money into the organization in the past, he isn't a good owner.

Maybe Tua's a Trump supporter!

Maybe his few years in Alabama have warped his mind. I was shocked Ross gave the green light in getting Rosen given hes attacked Trump on multiple occasions but he probably had a fondness in a guy nicknamed The Hebrew Hammer. Almost as much fondness as his yearly pursuit of his alma mater's vastly overrated head coach Harbaugh.


Anyhow Tua isn't touching Fields or Lawrence IMHO as a QB prospect so he will be told by his crew dont stick for that gifted(on paper) QB class.

Oct 1, 2019 23:19:41 GMT @admin said:

Oct 1, 2019 22:43:34 GMT Ed said:

Mainly because I hate the Dolphins and I like watching Tua play. That franchise is just a dumpster fire.

That's being hyperbolic. There's no inherent losing culture like Baker had to deal with when he was drafted by Cleveland, there are worse owners like in Washington, and Miami will always be an attractive team to players because it's a nice place to live with no state income tax. People have killed the Dolphins for years for being a consistently irrelevant 8-8 team, and now that they make a move to change that they are suddenly a disaster zone? Nah. 

Arizona's more of a disaster zone than Miami.

Oct 2, 2019 5:05:02 GMT CM Punk'd said:

Oct 1, 2019 23:19:41 GMT @admin said:

That's being hyperbolic. There's no inherent losing culture like Baker had to deal with when he was drafted by Cleveland, there are worse owners like in Washington, and Miami will always be an attractive team to players because it's a nice place to live with no state income tax. People have killed the Dolphins for years for being a consistently irrelevant 8-8 team, and now that they make a move to change that they are suddenly a disaster zone? Nah. 

Arizona's more of a disaster zone than Miami.

As a team? That’s idiotic.

Oct 2, 2019 5:05:02 GMT CM Punk'd said:

Oct 1, 2019 23:19:41 GMT @admin said:

That's being hyperbolic. There's no inherent losing culture like Baker had to deal with when he was drafted by Cleveland, there are worse owners like in Washington, and Miami will always be an attractive team to players because it's a nice place to live with no state income tax. People have killed the Dolphins for years for being a consistently irrelevant 8-8 team, and now that they make a move to change that they are suddenly a disaster zone? Nah. 

Arizona's more of a disaster zone than Miami.

What makes you believe that?

Oct 2, 2019 16:41:17 GMT Ed said:

Oct 2, 2019 5:05:02 GMT CM Punk'd said:

Arizona's more of a disaster zone than Miami.

What makes you believe that?

Football wise, the Cards are a dumpster fire.  Since moving to Arizona from St. Louis, and aside from the magical run with Kurt Warner at the helm, they've been as bad, if not worse than even the Bengals over that span.

They have not been as bad as the Bengals, Dolphins or Lions for example because they made the playoffs and made it to the Super Bowl!

A Super Bowl they realistically should've won if not for James Harrisons ridiculous 100 yard INT TD and Santonio Holmes insanely incredible GW TD catch.

Arizona has been fine. As an organization and franchise, the way they have treated Larry Fitzgerald and vice versa is also a testament to how they run things.

Oct 2, 2019 17:52:06 GMT KING KID said:

They have not been as bad as the Bengals, Dolphins or Lions for example because they made the playoffs and made it to the Super Bowl!

A Super Bowl they realistically should've won if not for James Harrisons ridiculous 100 yard INT TD and Santonio Holmes insanely incredible GW TD catch.

Arizona has been fine. As an organization and franchise, the way they have treated Larry Fitzgerald and vice versa is also a testament to how they run things.

Stop using logic , clearly it was just an ignorant and uninformed take.

And to make matters worse, the Arizona Cardinals owner ends up dying today.

Way to go, CM Punk'd,

Oct 2, 2019 19:00:58 GMT KING KID said:

And to make matters worse, the Arizona Cardinals owner ends up dying today.

Way to go, CM Punk'd ,

Wow. First he makes shinobi delete his account and now this. Is there anything he won't do?

Quite a coincidence, wouldn't you say?

But seriously, R.I.P. Bill Bidwell. Rare in today's sports world to have a team stay in the family for this long.

Outside of certain individuals lousy DUI charges within the Cards front office, I think they have been fine all things considered when they've been in arguably the toughest division 1-4 for a few years with each team having a few years of supremacy.

Sucks about the Bidwell news. I expect a fired up Cards squad to maybe capture their 1st win.