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Post by iron maiden on Dec 8, 2020 23:35:32 GMT
Well we’re in a 4 week lockdown. Most retail stores still open and Churches at 15% capacity. Restaurants take away only. Everything else closed. Good job naysayer Chucklefucks who thought this was all a hoax and refuse to wear a mask or take personal responsibility. When you bitch about small businesses dying you are the reason. Our economy is going to get another dry pounding due to these morons and going to get taxed out the ass at the end of it. [/rant] :kane: www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5832682
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Post by Ness on Dec 8, 2020 23:37:28 GMT
Well we’re in a 4 week lockdown. Most retail stores still open and Churches at 15% capacity. Restaurants take away only. Everything else closed. Good job naysayer Chucklefucks who thought this was all a hoax and refuse to wear a mask or take personal responsibility. When you bitch about small businesses dying you are the reason. www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5832682Can't dine in, but can worship?
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Post by iron maiden on Dec 8, 2020 23:59:49 GMT
I feel that's a mistake. Many of the churches/synagogues/mosques have done well at doing online worship services so they should have just closed it. Many worship from home already but we had some instances in the last two weeks in which the Police, Bylaw and RCMP had to get involved which only fueled the whole 'they are taking away my rights and freedom mindset.'
The biggest issue there is who chooses the 15% and when do you find out? Do you get the family all dressed up, drive there Sunday morning and then find out? That sounds counter productive and a clusterfuck waiting to happen.
Stores are a little easier to monitor that way. You take the chance that you is going to have to stand in line. I bought online, but I spent as much on locally made gifts as I did from Amazon, etc.
EDIT: They've banned outdoor gatherings (thanks morons who thought hanging out in your garage or driveway didn't fall under public gathering- because it wasn't 'indoors'). No problem for me. Supposed to be -20C next week.
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Post by 🤯 on Dec 9, 2020 3:30:56 GMT
So the US decided repeatedly not to buy the vaccines that it claimed would be available by early next year. We have enough to vaccinate the rich and powerful but that is it. Rich and powerful are the only people who matter, silly.
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Post by iNCY on Dec 9, 2020 13:27:09 GMT
So, censorship is out of control... You see an almost blanket ban on any discussion of side effects of the vaccine. My kids are all vaxed, but an RNA vaccine is a big worry for me.
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Post by c on Dec 9, 2020 13:31:14 GMT
Hum? I seen a lot of discussion of the side effects. The short term ones are pretty rough. Gonna knock people down for a few days and be quite painful.
What is censored are the hypothetical side effects that are not at all based on science and basically just antivax shit. A lot of the talk from this camp is sci-fi bullshit from a misunderstanding of what RNA does.
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Post by Jake on Dec 9, 2020 21:04:53 GMT
So, censorship is out of control... You see an almost blanket ban on any discussion of side effects of the vaccine. My kids are all vaxed, but an RNA vaccine is a big worry for me. There has been reports of 2 people , front line workers, who received the vaccine to suffer side effects, although they've got a long history of being allergic to stuff. People who have allergies of some sort are being asked to not take the Pfzier vaccine for the mean time, which is okay. You can't get the flu jab, if you're allergic to eggs apparently.
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Post by c on Dec 9, 2020 21:10:02 GMT
The side effect claims many want discussed is whether or not the RNA vaccines will alter DNA. For people who paid attention in biology this makes no freaking sense at all but for most people the terror claims seem plausible.
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Post by @admin on Dec 9, 2020 22:24:45 GMT
Incy is turning into more of a nutso conspiracy theorist daily at this point. The two allergic reactions that Jake posted about are one of the top news stories of the day. :lol:
I'm interested in hearing from our sciencey minded bros about the unknown at this point about whether the vaccination is likely to be able to stop transmission of the virus? Apparently it's just something we'll have to wait and see?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2020 23:18:40 GMT
Incy is turning into more of a nutso conspiracy theorist daily at this point. The two allergic reactions that Jake posted about are one of the top news stories of the day. :lol: I'm interested in hearing from our sciencey minded bros about the unknown at this point about whether the vaccination is likely to be able to stop transmission of the virus? Apparently it's just something we'll have to wait and see? It will almost certainly reduce it, since Oxford already has some data from trials that the vaccine group were less susceptible to asymptomatic infection. If one vaccine reduces spread, likely others will too. It would be strange if only one technology achieved that. As with anything though, this needs to be proven, and we just don't know at the moment. Scientists don't like probables for good reason. The good news is that it won't take long to prove - all you do is offer a sample of vaccinated people daily PCR tests and see if the infection rate is lower. We'll know soon.
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Post by c on Dec 10, 2020 10:06:10 GMT
US at 3000 daily deaths now. Everyday is now 9/11. Funny how people think getting their balls felt up is less of a violation of personal freedom than wearing a mask though...
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Post by Ness on Dec 10, 2020 10:14:05 GMT
US at 3000 daily deaths now. Everyday is now 9/11. Funny how people think getting their balls felt up is less of a violation of personal freedom than wearing a mask though... Low birth rates
Daily death tolls
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Post by c on Dec 10, 2020 10:31:05 GMT
BUT US GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!! Sure other countries can go to the grocery store without risking their lives, but do they have freedom? I think not!!!
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Post by c on Dec 10, 2020 15:36:29 GMT
Damn US hit a 4.5% infection rate. If you are in a room with 10 Americans you have a 50-50 chance to walk out with COVID. Very Nice!!!
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Post by Jake on Dec 10, 2020 22:12:59 GMT
Here I was thinking that we Brits had it hard today, considering (which we've known all along to be fair) are heading to a no deal brexit.
The US come along with a statistic like that.. blimey.
Hopefully, we can get this pandemic under control, I don't think we'll completely eradicate Covid but these vaccines can be a way of getting out of this current way of life and back to what we all consider normality...(with hand sanitizer everywhere please, too many dirty people around)
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Post by c on Dec 10, 2020 22:20:14 GMT
You all aint seen nothing yet. Frankly, these are amateur numbers still. We are gonna try to get that shit up to 10 percent by Feb by opening more of the US up, sending kids back to school and not following social distancing or mask orders. It is the right of every free man in the US to die from COVID and no socialist deep state government official will take that right from us.
Also 16% of the US has had COVID so far it is estimated, so we may get to test that 40% herd immunity level before all is said and done.
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Post by Ness on Dec 10, 2020 22:38:16 GMT
I seriously hope future generations of whatever species replaced us learns about the human extinction and how it was over masks and not being a dipshit.
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Post by iNCY on Dec 11, 2020 4:04:55 GMT
Incy is turning into more of a nutso conspiracy theorist daily at this point. The two allergic reactions that Jake posted about are one of the top news stories of the day. :lol: I'm interested in hearing from our sciencey minded bros about the unknown at this point about whether the vaccination is likely to be able to stop transmission of the virus? Apparently it's just something we'll have to wait and see? If you think it's a conspiracy to be concerned about a mRNA vaccine that is less than 12 months old, then the issue is not conspiracy, the issue is the lack of reporting of the very real unknowns. My kids are all vaccinated and I am anti-anti-vaxer I think vaccines are good. The panic about this pandemic is insane. . For people under 50 the survival rate is 99.95% which is next to nothing... So why the rush to immunise young healthy people who have yet to start a family? I'm not a conspiracy theorist, you are just so smug in your accepting of what is presented you at face value by governments who are desperate to stop their economies collapsing. Immunise everyone over 50 first and those at risk, them let's revisit in 2 years, there's very little down side to the plan.
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Post by @admin on Dec 11, 2020 4:55:23 GMT
I was really talking about your idea that there is censorship over side effects of vaccination when I (and clearly others here) see them being reported widely.
I don't accept what governments are presenting (and you're the one that's been freaking out about the economy this entire time!) but I believe the people from the field who say that the reason that the vaccinations have been able to be produced so quickly is because this is what science can achieve when there is money and motivation behind a cause.
I see that there's clearly a lot of diligence and rigorous testing to ensure that vaccines don't go out to the public until they are safe. The University of Queensland/CSL vaccine that's been abandoned today reaffirms those thoughts to me.
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Post by iNCY on Dec 11, 2020 8:01:44 GMT
I was really talking about your idea that there is censorship over side effects of vaccination when I (and clearly others here) see them being reported widely. I don't accept what governments are presenting (and you're the one that's been freaking out about the economy this entire time!) but I believe the people from the field who say that the reason that the vaccinations have been able to be produced so quickly is because this is what science can achieve when there is money and motivation behind a cause. I see that there's clearly a lot of diligence and rigorous testing to ensure that vaccines don't go out to the public until they are safe. The University of Queensland/CSL vaccine that's been abandoned today reaffirms those thoughts to me. I'm in no way disputing that everyone has the best of intentions. The UQ vaccine just shows how everyone should be mindful of what they put into their body. Even though I accept those that false positive HIV results were only that, false positives and nobody would have developed aids, do you think they would have advertised that they used proteins from the HIV virus in the vaccine? If you knew that, would you have taken it? This is uncharted territory and the so-called emergency is the reason the approvals have been allowed to proceed with less than the normal amount of testing... Except there is no emergency for those under 50. There are so many things an mRNA vaccine could do, maybe auto immune diseases or even supress the bodies ability to fight off other more serious diseases. We don't know, because we don't yet have enough data. Like I said, I'm not saying no and I will have the vaccine for work, but if you're young, healthy and looking to start a family... Just research it.
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Post by c on Dec 11, 2020 13:37:18 GMT
US expecting at least 3000 daily deaths for 90 days.
Also revealed that because Trump refused to buy vaccines when offered, the US will be not be able to buy vaccines to keep up with demand unless we order Pfizer to cancel it's European and Canadian sales. Which Trump may still attempt.
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Post by c on Dec 11, 2020 17:46:58 GMT
300,000 dead now in the US. On par to hit 500,000 before Trump leaves office. Early next week the rich and powerful should be getting vaccinating in the US before the vaccines run out. Us normal people will have to wait until Biden takes office.
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Post by Ness on Dec 11, 2020 18:10:34 GMT
Since Trump is never leaving those aren't bad numbers give or take another 4 yrs.
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Post by c on Dec 11, 2020 19:36:02 GMT
White House ordered the FDA to approve the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine or for the director to submit his resignation. This is how science works people.
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Post by Jake on Dec 11, 2020 20:28:09 GMT
White House ordered the FDA to approve the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine or for the director to submit his resignation. This is how science works people. You know what I've always thought? For a Christian loving person such as Pence, he's the head of a Covid task force and also the "Space Force"...seems very anti-bible like that... Anyway, over here it seems like London could be pushed to Tier 3 and if you know our country, that means any other part of it with falling rates won't be moved down to any tier below 3, can't be having the capital in a high tier and somewhere like let's say........Sunderland be Tier 2.
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Post by c on Dec 11, 2020 20:35:14 GMT
Are you reading the conservatives bible?
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Post by iNCY on Dec 12, 2020 0:48:57 GMT
White House ordered the FDA to approve the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine or for the director to submit his resignation. This is how science works people. You know what I've always thought? For a Christian loving person such as Pence, he's the head of a Covid task force and also the "Space Force"...seems very anti-bible like that... Anyway, over here it seems like London could be pushed to Tier 3 and if you know our country, that means any other part of it with falling rates won't be moved down to any tier below 3, can't be having the capital in a high tier and somewhere like let's say........Sunderland be Tier 2. Conservative Evangelicals are a long way from the gospel. Which doesn't make it any less galling to hear people who know nothing about Christianity say what is and isn't Christian. Was the early church socialist? Yes, they freely gave to each as they needed. They also said that people who could work and didn't were worse than unbelievers. It's also worth pointing out that Christianity is a counter-government movement, people are called to live their beliefs, not force them on others. It's why I voted against gay marriage, but have no deep seated angst with gay people. By the bible someone non-christian is not expected to abide by my beliefs and there is also rampant hypocrisy because any sex out of wedlock is viewed the same in the bible, gaybor straight.
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Post by c on Dec 12, 2020 2:41:45 GMT
Not wanting to get fired, the FDA authorized the vaccine in the US. The rich and powerful will start to get vaccinated tomorrow.
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Post by Ness on Dec 12, 2020 2:47:34 GMT
Makes sense they should get it done first since they're the most likely to survive with excellent health care available to them.
Good luck fuckers to the poor I suppose. Hope you got enough Tussin.
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Post by Jake on Dec 14, 2020 16:31:55 GMT
Ahh sweet, there is a new strain that's been found in the South of England and we don't know if the vaccine is effective against it.
Covid-20 here we come.
edit - Turns out I may be exaggerating this a little, turns out we have plenty of mutations in viruses already, including Coronaviruses...so....
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