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Post by The Kid on Mar 10, 2020 17:25:20 GMT
Yeah I had zero females on my list. Plus Meryl Streep can go fuck herself.
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Post by Shootist on Mar 10, 2020 18:27:11 GMT
Names like Meryl Streep are why I went exclusively with favorites, especially for actresses. She was good in everything I've seen her in but nothing that stands out as to be the GOAT. I have a hard time coming up with all time female performances that get universal praise.
I went all PC and just alternated between males and females on my list so females would get somewhat of a fair shake.
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Post by Emperor on Mar 10, 2020 19:04:59 GMT
I've never understood all the accolades Streep gets. Is she a great actress? Of course. But I don't think she's as great as her resumé suggest. Not much I've seen from her has blown me away in the same way my favourite actors have. That said, she is excellent in Kramer vs Kramer and Death Becomes Her. I guess I can't judge that strongly having seen so little of her.
Who voted for Meryl, and why?
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Post by UT on Mar 10, 2020 19:43:15 GMT
I had four actresses make my list , none were Meryl and I think only one made the master list.
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Post by Ness on Mar 10, 2020 19:59:33 GMT
Yeah I had zero females on my list. Plus Meryl Streep can go fuck herself. LOL.
Kid following the rules and not sneaking in an actress in the actor countdown.
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Post by thereallt on Mar 10, 2020 20:29:50 GMT
Most overrated actress of all-time.
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Post by UT on Mar 10, 2020 20:36:09 GMT
Yeah I had zero females on my list. Plus Meryl Streep can go fuck herself. LOL.
Kid following the rules and not sneaking in an actress in the actor countdown.
They are the same god damn thing.
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Post by 🤯 on Mar 10, 2020 21:02:48 GMT
I voted for Meryl. I had her at #2. Maybe I've just succumbed to the hype. But I feel more like all y'all Meryl haters are the same as the Shayna haters; i.e., just 2DUM.
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Post by RagnarokMike on Mar 10, 2020 21:43:57 GMT
Streep is one of I think 2 females who made my list, the highest ranked, she’s always good, and great when given weighty material. Not sure where all the hate is coming from.
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Post by Ness on Mar 10, 2020 21:48:26 GMT
I voted for Meryl. I had her at #2. Maybe I've just succumbed to the hype. But I feel more like all y'all Meryl haters are the same as the Shayna haters; i.e., just 2DUM. You used to be one of my favorites. WHAT HAS BEEN THE PAST 24 HOURS?!?
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Post by 🤯 on Mar 10, 2020 21:57:59 GMT
I voted for Meryl. I had her at #2. Maybe I've just succumbed to the hype. But I feel more like all y'all Meryl haters are the same as the Shayna haters; i.e., just 2DUM. You used to be one of my favorites. WHAT HAS BEEN THE PAST 24 HOURS?!? Trying to go from Top Babyface of 2019 to Top Heel of 2020! Also, wait... This was greatest actors, right? Not favorites per se? I think Meryl totally works based on the criteria I set out for myself: Also, still don't get the Shayna hate. Age-ism, I say!
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Post by Emperor on Mar 10, 2020 23:04:05 GMT
I didn't set out any criteria, I just ranked my favourites.
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Post by Big Pete on Mar 11, 2020 3:42:03 GMT
I thought I just threw Meryl on my list as a shout out, but she placed a respectable 9th.
pi failing to put over Adaptation was by far the most offensive thing he's done all week. Negligience of the highest order.
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Post by UT on Mar 11, 2020 12:41:41 GMT
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Post by UT on Mar 11, 2020 12:44:31 GMT
I'm not a huge Oldman guy , I like him in some roles and think he is amazing in Leon and True Romance especially as a bit player , even like his as Sirius Black in the Harry Potter movies but he's not the type of actor where I am going to go out of my way to see in a movie like most of the people on my list. Talented and probably the GOAT character actor , which sometimes is just as important and impressive as being the lead - especially when you do it to the degree he does.
He might make a bigger list of mine , but it would definitely be on the work he did as Stansfied and Drexl.
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Post by 🤯 on Mar 11, 2020 12:57:33 GMT
I thought I just threw Meryl on my list as a shout out, but she placed a respectable 9th. pi failing to put over Adaptation was by far the most offensive thing he's done all week. Negligience of the highest order. !!! I was surprised to see Meryl finish this low , there's a case for her to be the greatest actor in history and her awards resume speaks for itself. So much so that I just gave up after the Oscars and skipped everything else because I'd be here for the next four hours. Insane profile. I like Meryl but she isn't one of my favorites. I imagine age and stuff have a ton to do with it so I don't fully appreciate her like I should. The Devil Wears Prada is far and away my favorite Meryl movie and one of the best roles of all time. I really do owe her the respect of going back and looking at more of her filmography. She's never been bad in a single movie I've seen her in. Even the maligned Death Becomes Her is great because of Meryl. Also to beat 🤯 to the punch , Meryl , especially young Meryl was absolutely stunning. Good lordy. Whoa. I assume Meryl mostly finished this low because PW is almost exclusively a pool of male wrestling fans who likely gravitate almost exclusively toward other males when it comes to wrestlers, actors, musicians, authors, etc. Honestly, won't be totally surprised if Meryl ends up being the only lady to appear on the overall countdown. I agree on her having a case for being the GOAT. She's definitely the female Jack Nicholson. And similar to Jack, I like Meryl a lot without her being a favorite. And yet she's been in a lot of my favorite movies/roles... It's this weird conundrum, but I respect the fuck outta her chops. Why is Death Becomes Her maligned? I thought it was a decent comedy for what it was. I'm torn on favorite Meryl movie between Devil Wears Prada and It's Complicated. Think the former was the better role/character/performance, and the latter was my more preferred movie overall. Her Susan Orleans in Adaptation deserves a big shout too IMO.Now... Most importantly, in the looks department: while she is stunning, she suffers from rack lack, and ultimately she is no Brad Pitt or young Clint. But virtually none of us are, so is that really a knock?
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Post by 🤯 on Mar 11, 2020 12:58:54 GMT
OG GO is a sleeper GOAT contender. What he lacks in main event drawing power, he makes up for by being an arguably greater chameleon then DDL and Bale combined.
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Post by Lionheart on Mar 11, 2020 13:56:30 GMT
I did not vote for Gary Oldman because I only had fifteen choices. If I had more than fifteen choices, I would have voted for him.
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Post by thereallt on Mar 11, 2020 14:43:27 GMT
I'm not a huge Oldman guy , I like him in some roles and think he is amazing in Leon and True Romance especially as a bit player , even like his as Sirius Black in the Harry Potter movies but he's not the type of actor where I am going to go out of my way to see in a movie like most of the people on my list. Talented and probably the GOAT character actor , which sometimes is just as important and impressive as being the lead - especially when you do it to the degree he does. He might make a bigger list of mine , but it would definitely be on the work he did as Stansfied and Drexl. What Gary Oldman lacks in star power he makes up for in sheer acting talent. I don't think I've ever seen a bad Gary Oldman performance,but I have seen TONS of outstanding ones.
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Post by Emperor on Mar 11, 2020 17:56:26 GMT
What UT and LT said. Phenomenal actor. Not a star, for some reason, but he is must watch. Might have made my list if I had thought about him.
Gary Oldman's portrayal of wacko corrupt officer Norman Stansfield is out of this world amazing. He steals every scene he's in. One of my favourite performances in all of cinema. And I can't comment about that character without sharing this video.
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Post by Shootist on Mar 11, 2020 18:22:37 GMT
Gary Oldman was my number 3, just versatility personified. From Lee Harvey Oswald to Mason Verger to Jim Gordon, fantastic in any role put in front of him. Perhaps the modern Lon Chaney Jr. as the man of 1000 faces.
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Post by UT on Mar 11, 2020 18:24:07 GMT
I'm not a huge Oldman guy , I like him in some roles and think he is amazing in Leon and True Romance especially as a bit player , even like his as Sirius Black in the Harry Potter movies but he's not the type of actor where I am going to go out of my way to see in a movie like most of the people on my list. Talented and probably the GOAT character actor , which sometimes is just as important and impressive as being the lead - especially when you do it to the degree he does. He might make a bigger list of mine , but it would definitely be on the work he did as Stansfied and Drexl. What Gary Oldman lacks in star power he makes up for in sheer acting talent.  I don't think I've ever seen a bad Gary Oldman performance,but I have seen TONS of outstanding ones. I’m morbidly curious by Mary , which was clearly not considered good. Just to see what Oldman does in it.
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Post by RagnarokMike on Mar 11, 2020 22:25:38 GMT
Yeesh, Oldman outside of the top 10.
He's as versatile as there comes, from Drexl Spivey to Winston Churchill, such a great array of performances to be found. And plays one of the all time great crooked cops in Leon (the Professional), still one of my favorite little moments of acting is when he's going on about Beethoven, and then a subtle smile hits his face (amusing himself about what he's about to say) just before "That's why I stopped!"
Everyone who voted him low sucks...EVEERYOOOONE!
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Post by 🤯 on Mar 12, 2020 0:53:01 GMT
Yeesh, Oldman outside of the top 10. He's as versatile as there comes, from Drexl Spivey to Winston Churchill, such a great array of performances to be found. And plays one of the all time great crooked cops in Leon (the Professional), still one of my favorite little moments of acting is when he's going on about Beethoven, and then a subtle smile hits his face (amusing himself about what he's about to say) just before "That's why I stopped!" Everyone who voted him low sucks...EVEERYOOOONE! Honestly, I think it's that main event draw factor hurts OG GO.
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Post by UT on Mar 12, 2020 16:32:50 GMT
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Post by UT on Mar 12, 2020 16:36:59 GMT
I loooooove Charlize , she was my #2 female on my list and #6 overall.
I don't think there is anything she cannot do or that I will not watch her in. Mad Max is probably her most notorious role and character at this point but going all the way back to her Monster Oscar win Charlize has been incredible.
I love that she isn't afraid to try any role and , big or small. Atomic Blonde wasn't the best ever but she was amazing in it and I would watch any amount of sequels. She was awesome enough to say fuck it and become a bad guy in the Fast franchise , she teamed up with Rogen in a romantic comedy that she was amazing in and IMO was the best comedy of the year. I fucking love that movie and her in it. She will do an animated movie and kill it , be gorgeous and kill it , be ugly and kill it - she's the most versatile actress in the game right now IMO.
Not to mention she is stunning. And I love listening to her real world interviews. Seems like one of the coolest people in Hollywood.
Happy she made the overall list.
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Post by The Kid on Mar 12, 2020 16:55:33 GMT
Another one who can go fuck herself.
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Post by Emperor on Mar 12, 2020 16:59:20 GMT
Not seen her outside of Monster and Mad Max. Any recommendations?
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Post by Lionheart on Mar 12, 2020 17:03:49 GMT
Is Kid really sexist? No wonder he likes Trump.
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Post by Big Pete on Mar 12, 2020 17:06:31 GMT
Wait until Tim Robbins, Sean Penn, Robert De Niro & Mark Ruffalo turn up.
Kid is going hurt somebody's feelings.
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