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Post by UT on Mar 14, 2020 22:45:28 GMT
I loved his villain role in that episode of SVU. After watching it someone made a fake trailer of him as Hugo Strange with his role here and old Batman clips and I thought it was legit. Would've loved to see it. That was a pretty epic episode. I remember it vividly. Someday when we do a TV thing , guest stars will be a list and that will be on mine.
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Post by Emperor on Mar 15, 2020 0:02:28 GMT
Dude. You forgot one of his dramatic roles. In the greatest film ever made. Come on, man. We are Will Hunting bros. You have disappointed me. Didn't consider Robin Williams, but the more I think about it, the more I realise how great he is. Not a fan of his particular brand of comedy, but his serious acting is phenomenal. Bro GWH is Good Will Hunting! Oh right. I missed that. I skimmed over that first sentence and didn't see it in your list of films. It deserves better than being acronym'd though. Makes it easy for a lazy reader like myself to miss :lol:
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Post by 🤯 on Mar 15, 2020 2:00:40 GMT
I feel like I've missed so much being gone hunting for toilet paper and stocking up on ammo today. Late to the party here, but so with UT on Robin being GOATC. He's only behind one other male actor for me, and as my #3 I feel a little guilty putting the despised Meryl ahead of him in an attempt to go boy-girl-boy-girl as deep as I could. Was devastating when he died, and then the doc on him revealing how tormented he was... So sad. Miss him so much. So many incredible performances and memories.
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Post by Big Pete on Mar 15, 2020 13:16:47 GMT
Robin Williams is a great shout.
I didn't even consider him, but he was one of the biggest personalities and he's arguably the greatest comedian of all-time. Not just in terms of content but just how his mind could bounce around from scene to scene, it was amazing to watch on a talk show or a routine. Even when he was taking it easy on Who's Line he'd match it with the rest of the cast who were all brilliant.
I feel like he was the king of family movies growing up. Hook, Mrs. Doubtfire, Aladdin, Jumanji, Jack, Flubber, Patch Adams, Bicentennial Man etc. They weren't all winners, but Robin definitely elevated them and made me care about them more than I otherwise should have.
I missed him when he stopped doing those movies. He was great in One Hour Photo and Insomnia but I wanted more heart-felt sincere Robin and by the time he came back it just felt like we moved on.
I've been meaning to watch World's Greatest Dad for awhile. It's one of those underrated black comedies of the era, similar to Observer and Report but even darker.
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Post by UT on Mar 15, 2020 15:00:11 GMT
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Post by 🤯 on Mar 15, 2020 15:01:05 GMT
Another one gone way too soon.
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Post by 🤯 on Mar 15, 2020 15:01:41 GMT
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Post by UT on Mar 15, 2020 15:03:59 GMT
Like Oldman earlier , I think PSH is one of the best supporting actors of all time and the ultimate chameleon who can bring a ton to any movie in even marginal roles. Even his addition to movies like Hunger Games is awesome and he's great in but for me , I will never not think of him in Boogie Nights first. Then great stuff in Almost Famous , Moneyball and The Big Lebowski. Really his resume in some of the most revered cult classics ever is amazing.
Then of course he randomly shows up in Twister which was also great.
Don't know that I would consider him #8 of all time over Pacino and Williams but I get it. A huge part of a ton of beloved movies.
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Post by Ness on Mar 15, 2020 15:06:55 GMT
a.k.a. Jim Gaffigan's unofficial brother from another mother :eek: :eek: :eek: Can't unsee.
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Post by 🤯 on Mar 15, 2020 15:21:24 GMT
Like Oldman earlier , I think PSH is one of the best supporting actors of all time and the ultimate chameleon who can bring a ton to any movie in even marginal roles. Even his addition to movies like Hunger Games is awesome and he's great in but for me , I will never not think of him in Boogie Nights first. Then great stuff in Almost Famous , Moneyball and The Big Lebowski. Really his resume in some of the most revered cult classics ever is amazing. Then of course he randomly shows up in Twister which was also great. Don't know that I would consider him #8 of all time over Pacino and Williams but I get it. A huge part of a ton of beloved movies. Between PSH and OG GO, I feel like splitting things into best leading and best supporting actor countdowns would've had enough ammo for each to stand alone. PSH, OG GO, Willem Dafoe, Benicio Del Toro, Julianne Moore, Kathy Bates, Joe Pesci, Ben Foster, etc. etc. etc. could've all potentially gotten their well deserved love then.
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Post by UT on Mar 15, 2020 15:38:43 GMT
I just feel like we should do a PSH vs GO countdown.
Or Movies with best Supporting winner.
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Post by 🤯 on Mar 15, 2020 16:16:54 GMT
I just feel like we should do a PSH vs GO countdown. Or Movies with best Supporting winner. Totally on board with either.
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Post by UT on Mar 15, 2020 17:21:02 GMT
On second thought I don’t want to do the PSH vs GO right now , if only because of the 90s countdown coming up. There would be a ton of rightful overlap. Which I guess makes the case for both being on the list.
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Post by UT on Mar 15, 2020 17:21:27 GMT
I could switch one to movies with Best Supporting Actor wins though.
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Post by The Kid on Mar 15, 2020 18:24:54 GMT
I didn’t know he passed away. He didn’t make my list and wouldn’t have anyways but he is good. No Pacino though.
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Post by 🤯 on Mar 15, 2020 19:17:08 GMT
I didn’t know he passed away. He didn’t make my list and wouldn’t have anyways but he is good. No Pacino though. I dunno man, I'd argue PSH is at least one or two spots better than Pacino.
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Post by RT on Mar 15, 2020 21:21:24 GMT
Robin Williams and PSH finished pretty high on my list. I had PSH at #2 and I'm pretty sure Williams finished in my top 5.
I'm a little surprised. I was convinced Robin Williams would be in the running for the #1 spot. Looks like I wasn't far off, just a lot of you forgot about him. But he's in the top 10 and there's a million great actors out there.
PSH finished high on my list because when I rate actors, I heavily look at how easily they disappear into a role. It's one of my favourite things about watching a good actor, because they can make anything good and make you forget that you're watching them act. I've seen a ton of Philip Seymour Hoffman's work and I always start the movie going "hey that's Philip Seymour Hoffman, this should be good," and by the time I'm half way through he isn't PSH anymore, he's that guy, whoever it is he's playing. He's Dusty from Twister or Gust from Charlie Wilson's War or whoever.
My #1 was a lock and this was a big reason why, and it helped shape the first 8 or 9 on my list when I couldn't decide who I liked more. No it wasn't Gary Oldman.
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Post by thereallt on Mar 15, 2020 23:30:50 GMT
I didn’t know he passed away. He didn’t make my list and wouldn’t have anyways but he is good. No Pacino though. I dunno man, I'd argue PSH is at least one or two spots better than Pacino. I gotta back Kid this time. I think PSH is a tad overrated. I wouldn't take him over Pacino and i SURE AS HELL wouldn't take him over Gary Oldman. I wouldn't take him over Robin Williams either.
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Post by 🤯 on Mar 15, 2020 23:36:49 GMT
I dunno man, I'd argue PSH is at least one or two spots better than Pacino. I gotta back Kid this time. I think PSH is a tad overrated. I wouldn't take him over Pacino and i SURE AS HELL wouldn't take him over Gary Oldman. I wouldn't take him over Robin Williams either. Don't misinterpret me, I wouldn't put PSH ahead of Robin. The overall ranking is fucked up that way. And I'd have to compare filmographies to be sure where I fall out on PSH vs. OG GO, but PSH vs. Al... And just PSH in general, I think benefits from his untimely death like Morrison or Owen in that his greatness is only added to, in part because he didn't hang around past his welcome and embarrass himself by becoming a parody. Now, if it was purely young to mid Al vs. PSH... Then I can see the case being way tougher.
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Post by Big Pete on Mar 16, 2020 3:31:01 GMT
As somebody who really enjoys Paul Thomas Anderson movies, PSH was a no-brainer for my list. Hard Eight, Boogie Nights, Magnolia, Punch Drunk Love he's a show stealer in limited roles before he knocks it out of the park in the Master. I don't have an issue with Christoph Waltz and thought he was the highlight of Django but I would have had PSH over him for supporting actor and there isn't many performances I would consider about Waltz' - PSH was brilliant in that movie.
Almost Famous was a life changing movie for me and in that great ensemble cast, he stands head and shoulders with Frances (dammit! how did I forget her?) as the most memorable performances in the movie.
He's one of those actors where I've never gone 'oh the latest PSH movie, but if a movie had a big word of mouth campaign behind it, he'd pop up. It was like Paul Giamatti and biography movies, if there's a cult movie out there chances are PSH will wander in acting all surly like he does as Art Howe in another one of my faves - Moneyball.
But yeah movies like Happiness, Synecdoche, New York, Mary & Max etc. movies that had big reputations and of course there's PSH front row and centre.
Also I'm lending my weight behind Mary and Max. It maybe the most charming bittersweet movie I've ever seen. I'd have it right up there as one of the greatest Australian movies of all-time and certainly one of the best in the last 30 odd years.
I've never actually seen some of his more acclaimed movies like Capote, Doubt, Charlie Wilson's War etc. so if anything there's room for my appreciation to grow.
I had to have him on the list, but I could only go as high as #10. Great actor, arguably the best side actor of all time but didn't carry as many great movies as the actors did before him.
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Post by RagnarokMike on Mar 16, 2020 8:47:43 GMT
Call that the biggest miss on my list, PSH completely slipped my mind.
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Post by UT on Mar 16, 2020 14:00:56 GMT
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Post by UT on Mar 16, 2020 14:03:54 GMT
Y'all are fucking nuts for Denzel being #7 on this list , he was my #2 only because I was forced to choose between him and my #1 but in reality they are both my favorites and I can't choose.
I'll watch Denzel in anything at anytime. He's amazing in anything dramatic while also being able to switch it up the next movie and just be a badass. I don't know of an actor out there who shows more charisma on screen than Denzel and instantly gets you to buy into him and the movie as a whole.
From Oscar movies to just easy Sunday cable flicks like Bone Collector or Unstoppable. Denzel doesn't miss in my household. Except that weird Roman movie. Other than that though.
Also I mean he stars in maybe my favorite movie of all time in Man on Fire. He should have been my #1. Dammit. I had a weird tiebreaking when making my list.
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Post by The Kid on Mar 16, 2020 14:08:15 GMT
Denzel was my #2 also, UT! I told you these guys are nuts!
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Post by PB on Mar 16, 2020 14:59:48 GMT
Neither Denzel or Pacino made my list. Suck it UT, and The Kid,
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Post by RT on Mar 16, 2020 15:06:48 GMT
Denzel was 11 on my list. I tried to actually put him higher but I couldn't do it. I only like a few of his movies, but the ones I like, I fucking love.
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Post by UT on Mar 16, 2020 15:11:41 GMT
Neither Denzel or Pacino made my list. Suck it UT, and The Kid, You’re beef is going to be with god , but it might be up to me to arrange the meeting.
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Post by The Kid on Mar 16, 2020 15:36:09 GMT
PB is a deranged man. RT is equally deranged. Denzel would be my #1 if it wasn’t for my man crush. He has so many great movies with amazing performances. The dude is a legend in acting and 7 is criminally low. Almost as bad as Pacino at 10.
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Post by thereallt on Mar 16, 2020 15:51:51 GMT
Very few actors have the kind of charisma and stage presence that Denzel has. And IMO he pulls it off with a little more subtlety and nuance than Pacino does. This give him a little more versatility on stage and allows him to play a greater variety of roles. That being said he still often falls into the same trap of just playing different versions of himself.
I wouldn't rank Denzel top 2 by any means, but I sure as hell wouldn't leave him off entirely either. That's nuts. #5 to #7 is appropriate for him IMO
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Post by Emperor on Mar 16, 2020 17:50:05 GMT
Denzel placed #4 on my list. He's in that small class of actors that I would go out of my way to watch. I spoke earlier about Gary Oldman's enigmatic, unforgettable performance in León. Denzel's Alonzo Church is even better, a mesmerising performance from start to finish in one of the best films ever made. That's not to mention all his other great performances. Philadelphia and Crimson Tide immediately come to mind.
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