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Post by Ness on Oct 12, 2020 23:49:50 GMT
I'd be down for a countdown based on the greatest movies. We should do like 100 of them, each one with a specific topic or category! Nah, I don't think we have the attention span for that. Like if anyone ran it I'd imagine they'd run out of steam by 20ish.
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Post by UT on Oct 13, 2020 0:16:38 GMT
I'd be down for a countdown based on the greatest movies. We should do like 100 of them, each one with a specific topic or category! Seems like a stretch to get to 100 , maybe stop at 50?
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Post by UT on Oct 13, 2020 1:55:18 GMT
Dirty Dancing isn't my jam , it is my wifes favorite movie though and I can't deny its popularity. Nobody puts Baby in a corner is an iconic quote and this is 100% lock on Swayze's Rushmore. Perhaps someone who voted for it can speak to why it made it so high - I enjoy that it did though just for something different.
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Post by UT on Oct 13, 2020 1:58:27 GMT
Some Trivia for our next movie!
- The second of only three movies ever to win all the major Academy Award categories. - The title is derived from an American Children Folk Rhyme - At the time of it's release , it was the 7th highest grossing film of all time. - Named Barack Obama's favorite film of all time
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Post by thereallt on Oct 13, 2020 2:14:05 GMT
Dirty Dancing isn't my jam , it is my wifes favorite movie though and I can't deny its popularity. Nobody puts Baby in a corner is an iconic quote and this is 100% lock on Swayze's Rushmore. Perhaps someone who voted for it can speak to why it made it so high - I enjoy that it did though just for something different. My thoughts on Dirty Dancing as well.
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Post by Strobe on Oct 13, 2020 2:19:07 GMT
91. Adaptation (2002, Spike Jonze)
I’m due a rewatch and I’m worried it won’t hold up, as I watched this when a Jonze-style film was right up my alley. Now I’m not so sure - but I always enjoy films about the creative process and it’s one of the few Nic Cage performances I like. (Sorry 🤯 , but Brock Lesnar is the GOAT - please like my post anyway). It was my #75. I wouldn't worry. All the performances will still be great. The film writing itself as it goes along still fantastic. I remember coming home from work one night and my then husband and two of his closest friends (all jarheads - affectionately) had just finished watching The Thin Red Line. They said it was the most painful movie to get through, not because it stirred emotions, but because it was so boring and pedantic the emotions and the story were lost. They kept watching simply in hopes it would get better and it didn't. It became a joke between them: 'it was painful but not as painful as watching Thin Red Line'. And The Thin Red Line (which obviously won't rank) was my #74, one spot above Adaptation. It is full-blown Malick, so I get why many don't like it. A meditation on the personal war inside all of us and nature's indifference to it all. It was never going to be a giant hit upon release or a majorly beloved film afterwards, but coming half a year after SPR likely did not help. As far as twin films go, they are an incredible and very different pair. Some Trivia for our next movie! - The second of only three movies ever to win all the major Academy Award categories. - The title is derived from an American Children Folk Rhyme - At the time of it's release , it was the 7th highest grossing film of all time. - Named Barack Obama's favorite film of all time Netflix prequel series about one of the two main characters debuted last month. Did not know the source of the expression or that it was quite such a big hit.
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Post by 🤯 on Oct 13, 2020 2:42:03 GMT
91. Adaptation (2002, Spike Jonze)
I’m due a rewatch and I’m worried it won’t hold up, as I watched this when a Jonze-style film was right up my alley. Now I’m not so sure - but I always enjoy films about the creative process and it’s one of the few Nic Cage performances I like. (Sorry 🤯 , but Brock Lesnar is the GOAT - please like my post anyway). It was my #75. I wouldn't worry. All the performances will still be great. The film writing itself as it goes along still fantastic. I remember coming home from work one night and my then husband and two of his closest friends (all jarheads - affectionately) had just finished watching The Thin Red Line. They said it was the most painful movie to get through, not because it stirred emotions, but because it was so boring and pedantic the emotions and the story were lost. They kept watching simply in hopes it would get better and it didn't. It became a joke between them: 'it was painful but not as painful as watching Thin Red Line'. And The Thin Red Line (which obviously won't rank) was my #74, one spot above Adaptation. It is full-blown Malick, so I get why many don't like it. A meditation on the personal war inside all of us and nature's indifference to it all. It was never going to be a giant hit upon release or a majorly beloved film afterwards, but coming half a year after SPR likely did not help. As far as twin films go, they are an incredible and very different pair. Some Trivia for our next movie! - The second of only three movies ever to win all the major Academy Award categories. - The title is derived from an American Children Folk Rhyme - At the time of it's release , it was the 7th highest grossing film of all time. - Named Barack Obama's favorite film of all time Netflix prequel series about one of the two main characters debuted last month. Did not know the source of the expression or that it was quite such a big hit. Well, Strobe just confirmed I had the right guess too. And I echo the bewilderment over its commercial successes. Color me surprised, Chief!
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Post by JTJ on Oct 13, 2020 4:20:31 GMT
Dirty Dancing is my #45.
You talk about an incredible film. This is just timeless. I’ve probably seen it 30 times and every time I just like it more and more. It is by and far, Patrick’s best film.
I’ll hold the final dance scene as a top ten movie ending of all time. Music is perfect, dancing is awesome. The chemistry between Baby and Johnny is just authentic. I love it.
“Hungry Eyes” and “Time of My Life” May both be top ten songs in movies. In fact, it’s in a close run with Guardians of the Galaxy for my favorite movie soundtrack.
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Post by JTJ on Oct 13, 2020 4:24:12 GMT
Some Trivia for our next movie! - The second of only three movies ever to win all the major Academy Award categories. - The title is derived from an American Children Folk Rhyme - At the time of it's release , it was the 7th highest grossing film of all time. - Named Barack Obama's favorite film of all time I know Obama’s favorite movie (I think) but I don’t think it qualifies for the children’s trivia part. My guess is Godfather. He did an interview with someone once and said his two favorite movies are Godfather I and II.
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Post by Emperor on Oct 13, 2020 11:19:12 GMT
Not heard of the Netflix prequel show but my guess is below. Silence of the Lambs
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Post by UT on Oct 13, 2020 13:00:16 GMT
Good guess Emperor , but SoTL was the third of three movies to get all the big Oscars. I get the guess though , especially with the kids fable clue. JTJ , I got the trivia off IMDB so I'm assuming he must have said it somewhere. Leave it to a politician to flip flop on their favorite movie. OFOTCN is great , one of a kind and my mom's favorite movie. I like it a lot , thought it was brilliant in so many ways and seen what all the fuss was about. Still didn't make my list , like The Apartment , I just need more history with it before I can list it that high. Really surprised that it didn't crack the Top 100 though , it is easily one of the movies to appear on the most lists I think. Thought for sure it would be no less than a Top 30 Movie on PW.
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Post by UT on Oct 13, 2020 13:07:36 GMT
Three Colors Blue sounds like a coloring game I used to play with my daughter. Hard pass.
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Post by Ness on Oct 13, 2020 14:16:29 GMT
Wow nearly cracked the 100 and feels like a cross between a fake ass Baker movie or a questionable k drama from Lionheart.
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Post by Emperor on Oct 13, 2020 14:38:49 GMT
I soured on One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest the second time I saw it. Three Colours Blue is, I believe, one of the Strobe / PB style of weird and wonderful abstract movies. Might be wrong though.
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Post by The Kid on Oct 13, 2020 15:07:11 GMT
Never even heard of this Bleu movie.
One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest is a classic.
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Post by Shootist on Oct 13, 2020 18:27:17 GMT
11. Apocalypse Now: Redux (2001) 12. 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) 17. Planes, Trains and Automobiles (1987) 21. Clerks (1994) 25. A Nightmare On Elm Street (1984) 29. Rocky IV (1985) 40. Back To The Future Part II (1989) 46. Braveheart (1995) 47. Boogie Nights (1997) 54. Speed (1994) 56. Full Metal Jacket (1987) 66. American Psycho (2000) 67. Falling Down (1993) 79. Logan (2017) 83. Scarface (1983) 87. Apollo 13 (1995) 94. One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest (1975) 99. E.T.: The Extra Terrestrial (1982)
I can see why there is an outcry for ET to be higher but for me it has a little less rewatch value. It actually still gets to me emotionally so I have less desire to pop it in at regular intervals. I still think of Steven Spielberg as a director who captures the imagination and as the king of the big blockbuster so my Mount Rushmore would be Jaws, Raiders, ET and Jurassic Park. Strong alternates would be SPR and Schindler's List if you want a more well rounded representation.
Cuckoo just has a bit of everything with some dark comedy, an iconic villain and some real heartfelt moments especially between Jack and the Chief, fantastic film.
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Post by Strobe on Oct 14, 2020 1:04:41 GMT
Three Colours: Blue was my #8 and my second highest from the 90s (a film that will finish very highly on this list was one spot above). It is the first of a loose trilogy of films that are named for the three colours of the French flag and each can be deemed to represent one of the three ideals of the national motto of France: liberté, égalité, fraternité. The money for the films came from France after all. In the case of Blue, with the colour being used stylistically in the lighting for much of the film, it is liberty/freedom, with an unwanted freedom thrust upon the main character, played beautifully by Juliette Binoche, after she is injured in a car accident that kills her husband and only child. In an attempt to deal with her grief, she attempts to liberate herself from her past, her belongings, her memories. Her acclaimed composer husband's last commissioned work (it is suggested that Binoche may have, at the least, helped her husband write his greatest works) has been left unfinished and she is haunted by it. Freeing herself from her past has not helped her to escape the pain and she must deal with it. The music can be seen to represent her condition, her emotions, her journey, a metaphor for the character herself. As she works on the piece with her husband's unwed collaborator, she is facing up to the situation, overcoming her grief, and collaborating, no longer shutting herself off. As the piece improves, she heals. It is some of the greatest use of music in cinema. An incredible work of art.
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Post by Baker on Oct 14, 2020 1:20:38 GMT
One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest- Similar to Zodiac in that I couldn't remember if it made my list or was a late cut. Turns out it was another late cut (just like Zodaic!). It would have cracked my Top 105.
Jack Nicholson was (for better or worse) at his most Jack Nicholsonest in this movie as a rebellious mental patient who just wants to watch The World Series. Nurse Ratched was a memorable villain. The Chief was another memorable character. I mean it when I say these characters are memorable because I only watched it once like 25 years ago and I still remember them. Then you have a fantastic supporting cast of guys who were seemingly born to play mental patients like Vincent Schiavelli (The Get Off My Train Guy from Ghost) Christopher Lloyd, and Danny DeVito.
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Post by Lionheart on Oct 14, 2020 2:40:49 GMT
16. North By Northwest 17. The Seventh Seal 28. Three Colors: Blue32. Shutter Island 79. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid 99. The Apartment
Blue joins the small yet distinguished list of my picks to have placed thus far. Strobe seems to be the bigger fan, placing it 20 spots ahead of me as his #8. I already posted my thoughts on it about a year ago the last time it came up on a list. As I recall, UT was vaguely curious about it at the time. That has changed into a hard pass it seems, but I don't expect it will be a movie he'd like much anyway.
It's quite a lovely and beautiful movie, but very slow and emotional. I don't typically like these kinds of movies much myself, but this one is just too well done for me to not appreciate the Hell out of it. Plus it has a solid actual narrative in there to keep my sanity rather than being 100% artsy. I was definitely moved watching it and loved it a lot.
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Post by Lionheart on Oct 14, 2020 3:11:44 GMT
Because they are the best Spielberg films. Why are the best? Because: OK, so essentially your personal preferences, not taking into account any other factors which defeats the purpose of the Mount Rushmore discussion. I am not sure what you meant to accomplish with this quip other than an attempted zinger infliction, but there are many factors intended to be taken into account in order to technically compare the movies. We've discussed these in the past, though you seem to keep ignoring them and pretending like they don't exist for no conceivable reason. But among them are, ahem, as follows:
Cinematography (How clear / well framed are the shots? Do they show clear efficacy at inflicting the intended emotions on most viewers?)
Acting Proficiency (How convincing is the actor's performance? Do facial expressions and movements match the situation and draw you in to the story?)
Direction (Are the actors trying to convey sensible emotions for the story? How well do the performances seem to be attempting to match real feelings characters in the story would be having?) Writing Coherence / Consistency (No plot holes. Exciting/interesting story. Does it make you feel engaged? Morals are always a nice bonus.)
Note that the explanations in the parentheses are just some common general examples and do not completely dictate if a movie has done well in that area. There are many exceptions and specialized styles. There are also many differences in what the audience thinks about many of these aspects, but there is clear intent and ability displayed in all of them as well - enough to come to a good general conclusion, especially with many participants in the discussion. Maybe one person out of fifty thinks some terrible shot actually looks good. Sure, that person found the beauty in it and that's valid for them, but the cinematographer certainly failed in eliciting the proper emotion in most people. Maybe he was only trying to appeal to that one in fifty person, but that's more of an exception than the rule.
As much as you act like objectively qualifying a movie is some sort of nonsense subterfuge I utilize to make my opinions seem superior, these are well studied areas that are taught in film school and definitely have tangible repercussions within a movie. Though I readily admit this is not always directly linked to enjoyment, there is a correlation and the very purpose of discussing movies on these points is to eliminate the "personal preferences" that you yourself seem to hate and are somehow associating with my viewpoint.
I am kind of talking about these in a more formal manner, but this does not need to be the case. These topics come up often simply through the natural voicing of one's opinion on a movie. I think there is much to be gained by separating out these objective aspects from the opinions as much as possible, but basically I would be glad to talk about these areas on any of these movies even with tons of blatant opinions mixed in. That is all that I am saying is more interesting than talking about what movies were more famous...and what I naturally thought to base my Rushmore picks on. And they are very normal things to talk about when discussing movies.
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Post by Emperor on Oct 14, 2020 12:00:29 GMT
8. Matchstick Men 12. Mr. Smith Goes To Washington 14. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid 15. Silver Linings Playbook 27. Spirited Away 29. Logan 31. Parasite 32. Elf 38. The Apartment 43. Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince 44. In Bruges 60. Catch Me If You Can 62. The Conjuring 69. Paranormal Activity 72. Tombstone 84. Wayne's World 87. John Wick
Love Val Kilmer in Tombstone. Who plays Wyatt Earp again? I forget. Probably some jabroni actor nobody has ever heard of.
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Post by UT on Oct 14, 2020 12:01:18 GMT
Tombstone (My #6)A lot of heavy hitters coming off the board for me still , Tombstone is one of my all time favorites and I think of it as the ultimate entertaining or pulp Western that's good from the beginning but great once it turns into an all out revenge flick. Favorite Scene: Doc meets Johnny Ringo. I love it , Doc at his best in the movie. Hilarious and poignant. I could watch it all day. Shout out to Earp crossing the river screaming NOOOOOOOOO and the showdown at the end. Favorite Quote: I pick this whole exchange. I love it , and it really think it puts some perspective on Doc's character. What holds up? Kilmer's performance. Russells performance. The idea of an easy rewatchable pulp Western. What doesn't hold up? Kilmer not even being NOMINATED for his performance and Doc Holliday. That's tragic and the 1993 Oscars were a mess at everything. Not only should he have been nominated , he should have won for putting forth one of the most iconic performances of the 90's. Who wins the movie? It's Val Kilmer - you really can't say it enough but despite everyone else being really good in this movie , Kilmer was on another level as Doc and is what you come away from the movie remembering the most. He's got a ton of great quotes that live on as well. One of my favorite roles ever. Who's Mt. Rushmore?Kilmer - Yes. (Tombstone , Top Gun , The Doors , Batman Forever) Though I love him in heat. Russell - Yes. (Tombstone , The Thing , Escape from NY , Big Trouble) Elliott - Yes. (Road House , Tombstone , A Star is Born , ) Biehn - Yes. Paxton - No. I don't think so.
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Post by Emperor on Oct 14, 2020 12:04:03 GMT
As much as you act like objectively qualifying a movie is some sort of nonsense subterfuge I utilize to make my opinions seem superior, these are well studied areas that are taught in film school and definitely have tangible repercussions within a movie. Though I readily admit this is not always directly linked to enjoyment, there is a correlation and the very purpose of discussing movies on these points is to eliminate the "personal preferences" that you yourself seem to hate and are somehow associating with my viewpoint. I am kind of talking about these in a more formal manner, but this does not need to be the case. These topics come up often simply through the natural voicing of one's opinion on a movie. I think there is much to be gained by separating out these objective aspects from the opinions as much as possible, but basically I would be glad to talk about these areas on any of these movies even with tons of blatant opinions mixed in. That is all that I am saying is more interesting than talking about what movies were more famous...and what I naturally thought to base my Rushmore picks on. And they are very normal things to talk about when discussing movies. Thank you for the explanation. Now I understand your perspective more than I have done before. However I still maintain that these are unrelated to the types of Mount Rushmore we are discussing in general. You are discussing the "film school criteria" Mount Rushmores, and everyone else is discussing the "mainstream impact" (for lack of a better term) Mount Rushmores.
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Post by UT on Oct 14, 2020 12:09:25 GMT
Who plays Wyatt Earp again? I forget. Probably some jabroni actor nobody has ever heard of.
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Post by Ness on Oct 14, 2020 12:33:43 GMT
Preshow main event time!
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Post by UT on Oct 14, 2020 13:52:58 GMT
Now Chinatown finishing outside the Top 100 shocked me , another movie incredibly popular through 99 different iterations of lists and one I thought was a lock to finish quite high.
It made my list in the 90's , like other great movies like OFOTCN or The Apartment which are ones I enjoyed but didn't have the history , I seen Chinatown for the first time during one of the lists. Unlike those others though for ME and the reason it made my rankings is because it stuck with me way more. That ending was brutal , Noah Cross showed up on our villains list for a reason because he is one of the worst characters ever put on screen and then to carry the movie and keep you engaged you have Jack and Faye just being the stars they are. It's just a movie that has a ton to say , is thought provoking , is beautiful cinematically and they executed everything brilliantly.
Not sure how often I'll go back to it because it does take such dark turns , but I do think about putting it on again quite a bit because that initial experience was so engrossing.
And again , crazy that this marks the end of the 200-101 range. Some monster and super popular movies come off the board. Will probably start the Top 100 tomorrow in the new thread. Don't know yet if I'll make a separate discussion thread.
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Post by thereallt on Oct 14, 2020 13:54:43 GMT
9.Bladerunner 14.The Dirty Dozen 20.The Princess Bride. 22.Blazing Saddles 23.Trading Places 27.Logan 43.Man on Fire 52.Tombstone 53.John Wick 54.Braveheart 57.The Avengers 73.Boogie Nights 84. Scarface 85.Heat 87.Full Metal Jacket 90.True Lies 98.The Sandlot 99.The Wizard of Oz 100.Big Trouble in Little China
I mean how can someone NOT love this movie....
For Mt. Rushmore....
Kurt Russell is a yes (The Thing, Escape from NY, Tombstone and Big Trouble)
Val Kilmer is a yes (Tombstone, Heat, Top Gun, The Doors)
Sam Elliot is also a yes (Roadhouse, Tombstone, A Star is Born, We Were Soldiers)
Michael Biehn (Aliens, The Terminator, Tombstone, The Rock)
Bill Paxton? Let seee. (Aliens, Apollo 13, Twister, and yes Tombstone)
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Post by UT on Oct 14, 2020 14:23:22 GMT
Nah to Bill Paxton. He’s like 6th billed in this movie.
True Lies or Fraility (which he leads and directs).
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Post by The Kid on Oct 14, 2020 14:49:17 GMT
Holy shit guys.
The Notebook is cracking the Top 100!
I’m so proud of you guys for helping with the votes!
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Post by UT on Oct 14, 2020 15:17:19 GMT
Also that is a great scene and quite too thereallt. Fuck even in the beginning when he’s playing cards. I think Russell and Kilmer in Tombstone is in contention for my favorite movies duos ever. They are both so fucking good in this.
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