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Post by iron maiden on Sept 17, 2020 13:58:37 GMT
That's not Brock in 🤯's avatar?
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Post by Rogue on Sept 17, 2020 18:18:40 GMT
That's not Brock in 🤯 's avatar?
No, it's moving too fast to be Brock.
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Post by Lionheart on Sept 17, 2020 20:23:11 GMT
Brock looks way stupider than that too.
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Post by 🤯 on Sept 17, 2020 22:06:40 GMT
Not liking any of these posts.
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Post by X-zero on Sept 18, 2020 4:32:24 GMT
You know if they came together they would be an unstoppable team. Both put Cena and Brock moments together at the top of their list and alternate moments between Brock and Cena with so few list they would dominate this game.
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Post by Strobe on Sept 18, 2020 5:42:15 GMT
What's the deadline for this? I can get a list in tomorrow.
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Post by 🤯 on Sept 18, 2020 6:40:36 GMT
What's the deadline for this? I can get a list in tomorrow. Deadline is 24 hours after whenever Strobe submits a list.
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Post by iron maiden on Sept 18, 2020 14:43:32 GMT
Brock looks way stupider than that too. Plus missing terrible phallic chest tattoo.
EDIT: I like this game. 
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Post by RT on Sept 18, 2020 18:52:23 GMT
What's the deadline for this? I can get a list in tomorrow. Deadline is Sunday so you're good. That would put us at 15 lists. Not bad!
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Post by Strobe on Sept 18, 2020 20:38:42 GMT
What's the deadline for this? I can get a list in tomorrow. Deadline is 24 hours after whenever Strobe submits a list. You won't be saying that when I list no Brock moments. But that's not Brock's fault. It is hard to have one of the best moments when you debut on the big stage after wrestling has "died", which Big Pete and I figured was around that 2001-02 period. WWF became the only game in town in the States and the company became the draw. People would buy tickets for Mania, the event, a year before the matches were known. In Japan, you had the massive All Japan exodus in 2000 and NOAH's inability to create new stars in the early-to-mid 2000s ultimately led to Misawa killing himself in the ring. You also had Inoki destroying New Japan with his shoot fetish (Tanahashi deserves massive props for bringing them back up to where they are). I don't know enough about lucha to talk about it. It probably sounds hypocritical to list a moment from 1985 Mid-South (which I might) when it would dead in 2 years over something from a 10s Mania in the biggest company in the world in front of 80k people with some "wrestling is dead" argument, but there is something about post-2001 wrestling that feels increasingly hollow, inauthentic to me personally. It might be the end of trying to keep up the fun kayfabe pretence, the crowds becoming more smarky, the wrestlers all being smarky fans and wanting to have uber-workrate "classics", all the stuff that's been discussed ad nauseum. I might have two 2002 moments (one defo) and possibly one 2003 moment.
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Post by Emperor on Sept 18, 2020 21:05:12 GMT
Told you 90s WWF was going to run away with it.
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Post by RT on Sept 19, 2020 1:17:19 GMT
Told you 90s WWF was going to run away with it. I expect some changes once Strobe submits his list, but as it currently sits, only 4 of the current Top 10 moments are 90's WWF. I will not say where they rank or whatnot because I don't want people to be able to guess what the top moments might be.
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Post by Emperor on Sept 19, 2020 10:28:00 GMT
The rest will be 80s WWF, 80s WCW, or very early 2000s WWF.
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Post by Strobe on Sept 19, 2020 13:37:11 GMT
List submitted.
WWF(13) - 87, 88, 89, 90, 91(2), 92, 94, 97(2), 98, 99, 02
JCP/WCW(5) - 85, 89, 96, 98(2)
AJPW(3) - 83, 90, 95
AJW(2) - 85, 94
NJPW(1) - 96
MSW(1) - 85
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Post by RT on Sept 19, 2020 14:54:09 GMT
The rest will be 80s WWF, 80s WCW, or very early 2000s WWF. Well, I mean, most of the best wrestling ever happened during that time, so.. There are a few surprises peppered in there. PW certainly didn't vote how I expected, and some recency bias has changed some things. QUESTIONIS ANYONE ELSE SENDING IN LISTS!? Strobe's is in and if nobody else is sending a list I can start the countdown today.
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Post by Lony on Sept 19, 2020 15:34:29 GMT
Can I just copy amd paste 🤯's list?
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Post by 🤯 on Sept 19, 2020 17:34:25 GMT
Can I just copy amd paste 🤯's list? Now THIS is how you earn a like under the new policy.
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Post by Lionheart on Sept 19, 2020 18:48:30 GMT
How appropriate that my phone is showing both of you under the same avatar. PI’s alt has been revealed. 
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Post by RT on Sept 19, 2020 18:52:16 GMT
Can I just copy amd paste 🤯's list? You can, but I will print it off and burn it.
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Post by RT on Sept 19, 2020 19:48:40 GMT
With all 15 lists tallied...
-Two moments have now broken 100 pts
-There is a new #1.
-The old #1 fell to #3.
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Currently this is a Top 40 list. The cut off is 14 pts by doing that, and it gives us around 120 unique moments. There's a lot of ties in the 20-40 range so I'll be posting multiple moments at a time for us to discuss and argue about.
Unless someone speaks up and still wants to send a list I'll kick this off later today by posting the honourable mentions. I will make a new thread and this will remain the discussion thread.
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Post by Emperor on Sept 19, 2020 19:59:26 GMT
The rest will be 80s WWF, 80s WCW, or very early 2000s WWF. Well, I mean, most of the best wrestling ever happened during that time, so.. I suppose that's true. Personally, I think some of the best wrestling ever is happening right now in Japan, but yeah most of the folk here don't agree and share Strobe's view that wrestling sucks after 2001.
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Post by 🤯 on Sept 19, 2020 21:01:50 GMT
Well, I mean, most of the best wrestling ever happened during that time, so.. I suppose that's true. Personally, I think some of the best wrestling ever is happening right now in Japan, but yeah most of the folk here don't agree and share Strobe's view that wrestling sucks after 2001. I thought you liked Brock? 😕
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Post by RT on Sept 19, 2020 21:13:07 GMT
Well, I mean, most of the best wrestling ever happened during that time, so.. I suppose that's true. Personally, I think some of the best wrestling ever is happening right now in Japan, but yeah most of the folk here don't agree and share Strobe's view that wrestling sucks after 2001. I agree. I should have used the word story-telling instead of wrestling. It was actually some of the worst wrestling ever but the actual wrestling was secondary back then.
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Post by Rogue on Sept 19, 2020 21:13:49 GMT
I'm so keen for this to start, you have no idea how much fun I had making up my list. Reminded me of why I love professional wrestling so much.
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Post by RT on Sept 19, 2020 21:15:05 GMT
I'm so keen for this to start, you have no idea how much fun I had making up my list. Reminded me of why I love professional wrestling so much. That settles it. Starting in a few minutes when I'm done my leftover lasagna.
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Post by Emperor on Sept 19, 2020 21:27:26 GMT
I suppose that's true. Personally, I think some of the best wrestling ever is happening right now in Japan, but yeah most of the folk here don't agree and share Strobe's view that wrestling sucks after 2001. I thought you liked Brock? 😕 Sorry, don't see the connection between my post and Brock.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2020 21:35:45 GMT
Lists are my weakness. I'm sure I'll have a blast reading the whole thing but I'll have to sit out making one.
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Post by RT on Sept 19, 2020 22:10:48 GMT
The honourable mentions are posted!
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13. The Hardy Boyz return at Wrestlemania 33
14. CM Punk signs his WWE contract on the ROH World title
15. The Milk Truck
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18. Shane McMahon is the owner of WCW
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21. Paul Heyman confronts Mr. McMahon before Survivor Series 2001
22. Chris Jericho enters the Tokyo Dome at Wrestle Kingdom 12
23. Hiromu Takahashi returns from injury; confronts Will Ospreay
24. The Dudley Boyz return after Summerslam 2015
25. Seth Rollins cashes in at Wrestlemania 31
That's my list so far. Couple surprises for me, personally, mainly me being the only vote for Shane being revealed as the owner of WCW. That was a huge moment and I was surprised that nobody else voted for it.
The Hardy Boyz returning placed well on my list because I watched that Wrestlemania with a group of friends and when it happened we all freaked out. Moments that I experienced with other people got bonus points on my list.
CM Punk signing his WWE contract on the ROH world title will always place well for me. I was an instant fan for life after that. Such a cool heel moment.
Finally I want to touch on Chris Jericho entering the Tokyo Dome. I didn't expect anyone else to vote for it, and while it didn't place high on my list, it was always going to, and will probably forever be a moment on my list. Not only was it cool to see, and not only is Jericho my own personal GOAT, but that moment changed wrestling forever, and I think it's incredibly underrated for what it meant at the time.
Chris Jericho had spent two decades as a full-on WWE main event guy, and it didn't seem like that was ever going to change. But on that night, Chris Jericho threw away his entire WWE career and took a chance on his own, reinventing himself in his 40's, and joining up with a bunch of 't-shirt salesmen' to eventually become the most famous face of their new company that is now competing directly with the WWE.
I could go into more detail but I'm pressed for time. It's a moment that is going to define the next 20 years of wrestling history and I think Jericho knew that as he walked into that arena.
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Post by Emperor on Sept 19, 2020 22:15:00 GMT
Sorry RT! Deleted my post from the list thread. So those Lesnar and Cena lists were real, huh... My entries start appearing at the 8 point mark. Should be pretty obvious which ones are mine. I'm intrigued. What's this about? This reeks of Strobe. I've never watched any 90s NJPW aside from a couple of matches here and there.
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Post by RT on Sept 19, 2020 22:18:15 GMT
No worries. I just want to avoid two separate discussions happening at once. Better to keep it all in one place. That was indeed Strobe. The Joe with five titles thing was X-zero. Hopefully he'll shed some light because I googled it and nothing came up.
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