Thursday Night

Arizona (6-3) at Seattle (6-3) 

Sunday Early

Atlanta (3-6) at New Orleans (7-2) 

Cincinnati (2-6-1) at Washington (2-7) 

Detroit (4-5) at Carolina (3-7) 

New England (4-5) at Houston (2-7) 

Philadelphia (3-5-1) at Cleveland (6-3)

Pittsburgh (9-0) at Jacksonville (1-8) 

Tennessee (6-3) at Baltimore (6-3) 

Sunday Late

Miami (6-3) at Denver (3-6) 

New York Jets (0-9) at Los Angeles Chargers (2-7) 

Dallas (2-7) at Minnesota (4-5) 

Green Bay (7-2) at Indianapolis (6-3) 

Sunday Night

Kansas City (8-1) at Las Vegas (6-3) 

Monday Night

Los Angeles Rams (6-3) at Tampa Bay (7-3)

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What a lineup this week! Banger after banger. The latest instalment in the war for the NFC West kicks us off with Seattle trying to avoid the season sweep against Arizona. Have Kyler and Nuk got more magic up their sleeves after creating the play of the season with the "Hail Murray"? Can Russell Wilson bounce back after a couple of rough weeks to his early season form?

Early on Sunday we have the battle of wounded AFC contenders with the Titans and Baltimore looking to get back on track after being knocked down the toughness totem pole by the Colts and Patriots respectively. In the late window Indianapolis look to build on their offensive improvement against the Packers. Are Nyheim Hines and Michael Pittman ready to become regular contributors and raise the Colts ceiling on the other side of the ball from their stout defence? 

Al and Cris welcome the Chiefs back from their bye as they look to avenge their sole loss of the year to the Raiders. Las Vegas shocked everyone by hanging 40 on KC earlier in the season but they might be short handed this time around with numerous players on the COVID list.

The week ends with another matchup between two teams with designs on NFC supremacy. The Rams are coming off a statement victory over the Seahawks where they scrambled Wilson and shut down Metcalf, and their tough defence will look to make things difficult for Brady, Evans, Godwin and AB. We know the Bucs ceiling is very high, but that their floor is low following their complete egg against the Saints. 

Who emerges from Week 11's numerous big time matches as real deal contenders, and who limps out merely pretenders?

This is probably the Jets' best chance of getting a win this season.

You don't wanna go down as the team worst than Kotite.

OH YEAH!

FOOTBALL TIME!


THURSDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL:
ARIZONA CARDINALS @ SEATTLE SEAHAWKS
As you all know; I AM RIDING REAL HIGH ON A BIG GAME FOR CARLOS HYDE! However, when talking about the game it really is hard to pick a winner here. Their last showdown was an instant classic. I heard that the weather was going to be crappy tonight, but just checking on the weather now all it says is 44 degrees and cloudy. THAT'S NOT WHAT I WAS PROMISED! Anyways, the Seattle Seahawks are most likely going to be without Chris Carson (hopefully for my sake) and Tyler Lockett is looking like a game time call. Even if Lockett does play, is he going to be at 100%? I don't think so. Russell Wilson has definitely been struggling as of late, but this is a great bounce back game. If he is without Carson and Lockett, I can see the TE's getting more work this game and I can see the Seahawks trying their best to slow this game down. Maybe revert to last seasons Seahawks where they ground and pound their way to victory. They surely can't let their defense try and win them the game. On the other side, the Arizona Cardinals are coming off of a miraculous win. There was no reason they should have won that game, but they did. You can't always count on Nuk catching a Hail Mary to win, though. You also can't count on Patrick Peterson to shut DK Metcalf down a second time this season. Even though I wouldn't say it was a complete shut down perse, because Lockett just went off instead, but Metcalf did not put up gaudy numbers. Still, he had that chase down tackle on Buddha and the other stats were ignored. Still, I don't buy the Cardinals being the best in that division no matter how much I want it to be true and no matter how much I love the Cards. Arizona is 4-1 in their last 5 games and Seattle is 3-2. I say, both teams go to 4-2 after this game. Seattle is going to win this game with ground and pound and smartly taking advantage of the injured D-Line of Arizona. Add in some big plays by Russ and a hangover from last weeks victory for Arizona and I can see Seattle winning this comfortably.. The Seahawks just need to slow this game down and take the weight off of Russ. Arizona has scored 30+ points in 6 straight games. 30+ points in 7 of their 9 games this season. However, that 30+ point streak ends this week. I say Seattle remains undefeated at home and evens up the season series and it's not as high scoring as everyone hopes it will be. Even though 52 is still a big number, but not what people want to see. It'll be a close game, but in the end, Seattle survives as Murray runs out of late game magic. Carlos Hyde; 125 total yards, TWO TOUCHDOWNS~! LFG~! 
Seattle wins 28-24.


ATLANTA FALCONS @ NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
Jameis Winston time~! Or is it Taysom Hill time~?! Nobody knows, because Sean Payton wont tell anybody! I'm going to say Jameis Winston is the starter and Taysom Hill has his plays in there, as well. Atlantas D has looked slightly better since firing their 'defensive guru' Head Coach Dan Quinn. I'm interested to see how they play defensively in this one. This is a really hard game to predict. Atlanta beat New Orleans in their regular season game last season and dominated them defensively in what was a huge upset at this time. Sean Payton is going to be put to the test this week as he will have to improvise and come up with a game plan where Jameis Winston is not on the field in a suicide vest throwing bombs. I think Michael Thomas finds pay dirt for the first time this season this week. I think the Saints are going to try and slow this game down a bit and get the running game going against an Atlanta run D that is not as bad as the passing D. I expect Latavius Murray to be involved and Alvin Kamara to remain heavily involved. I want to say that the Falcons pull off the upset and I would believe it even more if Calvin Ridley was DEFINITELY playing, but we don't know the status of that yet. So give me the Saints keeping it hot and holding on for a close game victory. 
New Orleans wins 30-23.


DETROIT LIONS @ CAROLINA PANTHERS
Two teams with question mark injuries to their starting QBs. Stafford has a fracture in his throwing thumb. Bridgewater has a crack in his bridge. So will we see Stafford? Most likely. He's a warrior. Will we see Bridgewater or will we see PJ Walker? I don't know. This is an easy win for Detroit, even with an injured Stafford. Carolina's run D is awful and I can see Detroit exploiting that with their 3 headed RBs. Detroit's run D is equally as bad, but with no CMC, I can't see Mike Davis performing good enough to beat the Lions. If PJ Walker plays, I can see him putting on a show and maybe even giving Carolina the win, but I'm going to ride the hot hand (no thumb, I mean pun intended) and stick with the Lions. If Kenny Golloday is back, then the Lions are back in business and can/should jump back to .500. I still think Matt Patricia has to go, but I can see Detroit keeping him around next season too. Anyways, Detroit wins a fun game and for the second straight week, they win it on a GW FG from Matt Prater as time expires!
Detroit wins 30-27.


NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS @ HOUSTON TEXANS
Look out everyone! The New England Patriots are back! Sort of. After a come from behind victory against the Jets and a humbling of the Ravens, the Patriots are at 4-5 and 1 game back from .500. Interesting times. Bill Bellicheck does not want to have a losing record and will probably settle for an 8-8 finish this season. However, to get to that 8-8 finish, they need to take care of business and business is booming for opponents when they face Houston. With 2 wins, they come back to a better weather game. They were not prepared for that weather in Cleveland at all. Especially because Duke Johnson was not as involved and the ground game was very important for that game. I think Watson does his thing and throws for 3 TDs, but I think Cam handles another 'Cam Wanabee' this week and just takes advantage of a not-so-good Houston secondary. Brandin Cooks will score in his 'revenge game' for Houston; bet on it. In the end, I think New Englands D continues playing great off of their momentum and help the Patriots jump to .500 and Houston continues to tumble. 
New England wins 34-21.


PHILADELPHIA EAGLES @ CLEVELAND BROWNS
You know something? I am very intrigued by this game. I am very curious to see which team is actually better. Are the Eagles worthy of being a playoff team and winning the NFC East? Are the Browns as good as their 6-3 record show? I am extremely interested to see how this game goes. Realistically, the difference maker in this game should be Miles Garrett. The dude is having a DPOTY type of season and really took advantage of the weather against Houston last week. Making huge plays all game long. He should have no problem getting to Carson Wentz and when Wentz is pressured is when he struggles the most. After the Giants manhandled the Eagles last week, I don't see how Cleveland doesn't do the same. Who knows how the weather will be in Cleveland either. I'm sure Philadelphia will have an easier time playing in a bad weather game then Houston, but I just don't think their O-Line is going to do a good enough job protecting Wentz in this one. As long as Baker Mayfield doesn't make crucial mistakes in this game and they can dominate on the ground, I can see Cleveland winning this one with ease. The struggles for Philly continue and all of a sudden, the NFC East race is closer then we thought! Dallas is back in contention (I'll get to that later), the Giants are back in contention on their BYE. The NFC East is once again wide open! Cleveland ROCKS the Eagles this week.
Cleveland wins 28-10.


PITTSBURGH STEELERS @ JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS
The UNDEFEATED Pittsburgh Steelers are in a game that many might consider a TRAP GAME. With a Thursday Night Thanksgiving showdown against the Baltimore Ravens coming up, many are wondering if the Steelers have a slip up in this game. Mike Tomlin was even asked about this being a trap game and he said that his team is a team of professionals and do not take the Jaguars lightly after having some big match ups with them in the past. However, this is not the same juggernaut Jaguars from the past and I still stick by my words that they will not win another game this season. They gave the Packers a scare last week, but they wont do the same to the Steelers in this one. The Steelers whooped the Bengals ass last week and they'll do the same. Pittsburgh will not play down to their competition in this one and handle their business. WITH FORCE. Welcome back James Conner game incoming, too. I'll give the Jaguars a mercy TD in garbage time. Baby Chark has to eat.
Pittsburgh wins 38-7.


TENNESSEE TITANS @ BALTIMORE RAVENS
A low key great match up with two teams sitting at 6-3 and.... struggling?! The Ryan Tannehill magic seemed to disappear as they lost to the Colts in a game where everything went wrong. I knew Mike Vrabel wouldn't release Gostkowski but they released their punter instead. The Titans looked great at the start of the season, especially after pummeling the Bills on a Tuesday. Still, it seems like something has been off about this team lately. I think they need to get back to giving Derrick Henry the ball. It's going to be a tough task against this Ravens D, but Damien Harris AND Rex Burkhead just put up great performances against this team. It all comes down to which team comes into this game angrier. Both teams have HUGE match ups next week as Tennessee gets a chance at redemption against Indianapolis and Baltimore gets their shot at revenge on the Steelers. It's honestly going to be a slobberknocker here as neither team wants to go into a big divisional match up next week on a losing streak. I'm going with the better DEFENSE in this one and I feel like Lamar will do enough to keep Baltimore ahead of Tannehill and Tennessee. The game will be close for 3 quarters, but in the end, Baltimore runs away with it.
Baltimore wins 38-17.


MIAMI DOLPHINS @ DENVER BRONCOS
I don't want to talk too much about this game, because the winner is obvious. Drew Lock might not play and if he does, he's playing injured. The Miami Dolphins are undefeated in Tua Time and have this cake walk followed by the Jets next week. With the Bills on BYE, if RT isnt shitting himself yet he will be. The Miami Dolphins are about to snatch the AFC East away from the Bills. The Dolphins D have themselves another huge performance here and Tua does enough to help secure a very comfortable victory here. The Miami Dolphins walk out of Week 11 as the leaders of the AFC East!
Miami wins 30-13.


NEW YORK JETS @ LOS ANGELES CHARGERS
The Chargers record just reminded me how quietly bad they have been all year! I don't know how I overlooked their 2-7 record, but wow. 2-7?! Sheesh. Yo UT, old man Rivers was never 2-7! Respect your elders! Speaking of age; the Chargers are sending in a 12 year old who just hit puberty at QB this week. The Jets are going to win their first game of the season Blindy. Celebrate with the Jaguars! Go Flacco, Joe Flacco! It should be a borefest as we see two incompetent Head Coaches try and put together a victory. J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS WIN THEIR FIRST GAME! No rhyme or reason to it from me. Just a feeling. It's honestly just the Herbert Haircut. To make it spicier and make it the Chargers way; the Chargers score a TD with 23 seconds to go. The Jets look defeated and then the Money Badger Michael Bagdley hits the post with the XP to tie the game and the Chargers find another way to lose. This time by one point to the Jets! Is that exciting or what?!
New York Jets win 28-27.


DALLAS COWBOYS @ MINNESOTA VIKINGS
The Minnesota Vikings are on fire and their schedule is getting easier, right? WRONG! Andy Dalton is back and he's bringing his Red Rifle! After watching the Eagles get embarrassed on the early slate, the Cowboys come into this game knowing how important a victory is. The Vikings thing they can just go on cruise control and win another game, but check this out. The Minnesota Vikings are 3-1 against the NFC North and 1-4 against the rest of the NFL. Well, we're making it 1-5 this week. The Dallas Cowboys offense looks like the early season Dallas Cowboys offense in this game. They exploit the not-so-good Vikings secondary and everyone has a big game. I'm calling my shot. Is this considered an upset? I don't know if this or the Jets win is since neither opponent is great. But fuck it! UPSET ALERT. The Dallas Cowboys are back and they win a shoot out! They are now tied with the New York Giants and are only A HALF GAME BACK from the NFC East title. That tie we all mocked Philly for earlier this season is playing it's part at the moment keeping them ahead. The NFC East is going to be a homeless dog fight until the end! Go Giants.
Dallas wins 38-34.


GREEN BAY PACKERS @ INDIANAPOLIS COLTS
It's the showdown of showdowns! UT versus jTjohncenaGOAT! Aaron Rodgers vs the GOAT Philip Rivers. Call me crazy, but I have 100% confidence in the result of this game. This is actually a TERRIBLE match up for the Green Bay Packers. I was hoping Vegas was dumb enough to make the Packers favorites for this game, but they're not. They have Indianapolis as 2 point favorites with a 51.5 projected total score. Give me the under~! Give me the Colts running the ball down the throats of the Packers. Give me Indianapolis D shutting down the Packers offense with a hobbled Davante Adams, if he even plays. Good luck getting that run game going Aaron and Jamaal. This is an easy pick for me. I don't see any path to victory for the Packers here. They're just outmatched. Philip Rivers scrambles for a 5 yard TD run in this one just to drive UT insane!
Indianapolis wins 30-17.


SUNDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS @ LAS VEGAS RAIDERS
I honestly love both teams, but I LOOOOOOOOOOVE Patrick Mahomes. Revenge game? The Raiders drove their bus around KC stadium celebrating after their win earlier this season? The Raiders are having COVID problems? Oh this is going to be a SLAUGHTER in Vegas. The Kansas City Chiefs are going to absolutely annihilate the Raiders here and avenge their lone loss of the season with authority. I'm talking about 5 TDs from Mahomes, a defensive TD, just pure fucking dominance. It's Primetime and it's going to be a Patrick Mahomes Show! Do not piss off THE KING! Here's my FEARLESS FORECAST. The Chiefs are dropping a 50 piece on the Raidahz and keeping the Raiders to single digits. If you're into gore and all that stuff; then this is the game for you. That 9 points? That's because the Raiders go for 2 and fail. They're not getting 3 scoring opportunities. Just 2. It's going to be an ass fucking.
Kansas City wins 52-9.


MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL
LOS ANGELES RAMS @ TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS
This is the first game in NFL history where every referee will be African American. Historic. Kind of funny, too. You got the Los Angeles squad going up against King Conservative Tom Brady and Co. I'm hoping for a shoot out of epic proportions here, but I doubt it. I think we see a tightly contested game that in the end, the Buccaneers just find a way to squeak out. Both defenses will show up, but it'll come down to GOFF & GOAT. Give me the GOAT all day, every day. Antonio Brown scores his first TD as a Buccaneer in this one, because he's PRIMETIME and he goes for 100 yards. Maybe he's the difference maker or maybe it's because Jalen Ramsey can't guard everyone. Either way, TB12 avenges his last Primetime meltdown with a huge win. This loss to the Rams gives the division lead back to Seattle. Tampa Bay stays up New Orleans ass.
Tampa Bay wins 27-23.

Not seeing ANY path is a little strong , it’s a bad matchup for us especially if we are still down a few guys on defense.

Adams better play , sick of the Packers being so cautious all the time. We finally have Lazard back so the offense could realistically be at full strength for maybe the 1st time since like Week 2.

Noodle Arm Rivers will dink and dunk is all day and drive me nuts. Just have to hope Rodgers has all his weapons and does the same with a few over the top.

Packers 24
Colts 19

Nov 19, 2020 14:37:25 GMT UT said:

Not seeing ANY path is a little strong , it’s a bad matchup for us especially if we are still down a few guys on defense.

Adams better play , sick of the Packers being so cautious all the time. We finally have Lazard back so the offense could realistically be at full strength for maybe the 1st time since like Week 2.

Noodle Arm Rivers will dink and dunk is all day and drive me nuts. Just have to hope Rodgers has all his weapons and does the same with a few over the top.

Packers 24
Colts 19

LaFleur already said that he's going to ease Lazard back into the lineup. So I don't expect him to come back full throttle. If Adams doesn't play, they're toast. If Adams does play, he's playing hobbled. I get why they play cautious, though. They'd hate to get all the way to the playoffs and be down an important player like Davante. 

There's no way Green Bay wins this game.

PS- I totally and accidentally skipped the Bengals/Redskins game.

I love me some Joe Burrow. I love me this new look Bengals squad. But it's time for Alex Smith to get his first victory. This is the game! Now Washington is also back in the NFC East title picture. A bad weekend for the Eagles with a loss and watching both Dallas and Washington win with Big Blue on a BYE.

WASHINGTON WINS 30-21.

Nov 19, 2020 14:42:22 GMT KING KID said:

Nov 19, 2020 14:37:25 GMT UT said:

Not seeing ANY path is a little strong , it’s a bad matchup for us especially if we are still down a few guys on defense.

Adams better play , sick of the Packers being so cautious all the time. We finally have Lazard back so the offense could realistically be at full strength for maybe the 1st time since like Week 2.

Noodle Arm Rivers will dink and dunk is all day and drive me nuts. Just have to hope Rodgers has all his weapons and does the same with a few over the top.

Packers 24
Colts 19

LaFleur already said that he's going to ease Lazard back into the lineup. So I don't expect him to come back full throttle. If Adams doesn't play, they're toast. If Adams does play, he's playing hobbled. I get why they play cautious, though. They'd hate to get all the way to the playoffs and be down an important player like Davante. 

There's no way Green Bay wins this game.

Coach speak really , even if Lazard plays 60% of the snaps it’s still taking those snaps from Taylor or Shepard and has him on the field on third downs.

And I think Adams will be okay , he went back in the game and jumped out of the stadium to catch the go ahead touchdown without much of a wince.

Keep saying there’s no way though like the Colts are some juggernaut. They are good , but incredibly flawed as well.

Nov 19, 2020 15:06:43 GMT UT said:

Nov 19, 2020 14:42:22 GMT KING KID said:

LaFleur already said that he's going to ease Lazard back into the lineup. So I don't expect him to come back full throttle. If Adams doesn't play, they're toast. If Adams does play, he's playing hobbled. I get why they play cautious, though. They'd hate to get all the way to the playoffs and be down an important player like Davante. 

There's no way Green Bay wins this game.

Coach speak really , even if Lazard plays 60% of the snaps it’s still taking those snaps from Taylor or Shepard and has him on the field on third downs.

And I think Adams will be okay , he went back in the game and jumped out of the stadium to catch the go ahead touchdown without much of a wince.

Keep saying there’s no way though like the Colts are some juggernaut. They are good , but incredibly flawed as well.

The Colts are a TERRIBLE match up for Green Bay is what I'm saying.

Taylor, Wilkins and Hines are going to take turns running the train on GB's Run D. The Indy D is going to shut down the Packers, as well. It's like the match up with San Francisco last season. The Packers just don't match up well and are going to lose.

San Francisco was an elite team. Colts are not. Don’t compare the two.

Nov 19, 2020 15:17:21 GMT UT said:

San Francisco was an elite team. Colts are not. Don’t compare the two.

Rivers > Jimmy G

I never once thought Buffalo was going to run away with the AFC East. Miami and even NE always had the potential to play spoiler. I still think Buffalo wins it but if they don't I'm not losing any sleep over it.

Buffalo murdered the Seahawks and only lost to Arizona because of a miracle play. I'm happy with those results. If Miami over achieves or NE figures their shit out and makes a late run, so be it. Winning the division shouldn't be easy.

Nov 19, 2020 15:30:46 GMT KING KID said:

Nov 19, 2020 15:17:21 GMT UT said:

San Francisco was an elite team. Colts are not. Don’t compare the two.

Rivers > Jimmy G

Jimmy G was a borderline Top 10 quarterback last year by most metrics , Rivers is nowhere near that this year.

Plus Jimmy G can throw the ball over 40 yards.

I think the Texans will beat the Patriots. As bad as the Texans secondary is, if the Pats can't get pressure on Watson, they're going to have to go toe-to-toe. I doubt Newton can do that. Maybe the run game can. Either way, who really gives a shit. They both suck.

Fantastic line-up, really excited for most games.

Nov 19, 2020 16:14:58 GMT UT said:

Nov 19, 2020 15:30:46 GMT KING KID said:

Rivers > Jimmy G

Jimmy G was a borderline Top 10 quarterback last year by most metrics , Rivers is nowhere near that this year.

Plus Jimmy G can throw the ball over 40 yards.

Indy by double digits.

Now you’re just getting annoying.

I’ll take 10 points in that bet. Board bitch bed.

KING KID has to right a 500 word essay on why Biden is great for future of America when the Colts don’t cover.

Nov 19, 2020 16:35:25 GMT UT said:

Now you’re just getting annoying.

I’ll take 10 points in that bet. Board bitch bed.

KING KID has to right a 500 word essay on why Biden is great for future of America when the Colts don’t cover.

DEAL.

AND IT'S INDIANAPOLIS -9.5.

If Indy wins by double digits, YOU have to write a 500 word essay on why Trump was the greatest President of your lifetime and NO SARCASM.

If Philip Rivers gets a rushing TD and they win by double digits, you have to write 1000 words.

DEAL?

That’s a bet , no sarcasm from you either!

Only on my end , instead of doubling it to 1000 words you have to sport a “dignified” avatar of Biden until January 20th.

Nov 19, 2020 17:09:06 GMT UT said:

That’s a bet , no sarcasm from you either!

Only on my end , instead of doubling it to 1000 words you have to sport a “dignified” avatar of Biden until January 20th.

I wanted to do an Avatar challenge, but didn't want to fuck you up on your avator/movie swaps you like to do.

I'm not as confident on a Rivers run, but very confident on a double digit victory.

I'll see you Sunday.

Go Colts!

Nov 19, 2020 15:30:46 GMT KING KID said:

Nov 19, 2020 15:17:21 GMT UT said:

San Francisco was an elite team. Colts are not. Don’t compare the two.

Rivers > Jimmy G

Oh no you didn’t! 😡

They're both not very good?

@admin

WE GOT A BET GOING ON HERE!

They aren’t but Jimmy was considerably better last year than Rivers is this year.

Nov 19, 2020 17:12:50 GMT KING KID said:

Nov 19, 2020 17:09:06 GMT UT said:

That’s a bet , no sarcasm from you either!

Only on my end , instead of doubling it to 1000 words you have to sport a “dignified” avatar of Biden until January 20th.

I wanted to do an Avatar challenge, but didn't want to fuck you up on your avator/movie swaps you like to do.

I'm not as confident on a Rivers run, but very confident on a double digit victory.

I'll see you Sunday.

Go Colts!

Yeah I didn’t want to put up my Avatar yet.

You do realize that the Colts actually subbed Rivers out for Brissett to run a sneak last week right? While it wasn’t from 5 yards it still lends some serious doubt to him getting a rushing TD.

Not to stay on the MVP talk too long, I think the Murray talk is getting a little silly. Hanzus said he had him at 2 right now. What on earth?

Nov 19, 2020 17:56:38 GMT Todd said:

Not to stay on the MVP talk too long, I think the Murray talk is getting a little silly. Hanzus said he had him at 2 right now. What on earth?

I mean it makes sense with Russell dropping off and Murray’s rushing ability. You can’t underestimate what his legs means that entire offense and he’s got 10 touchdowns and over 60 yards a game right now.

So pretty much on top of the passing he’s averaging 60 yards rushing and a TD a game right now. That’s better than most running backs. The Cardinals go as Murray does and right now that has them as one or the best teams in the NFC.

I didn’t hear Hanzus argument and generally don’t love his analysis (he’s a great personality though) but I think there is a clear argument there.


PLUS he does it with Kingsbury as a coach. And Kingsbury is the worst coach of a good team right now.

I know about the Jacoby rushing TD and I'm not seriously expecting a Rivers rushing TD btw. I just want it to happen so I can see you rage post. UT

And Kyler Murray is for sure #2 in the MVP Race right now. What is Arizona without him? Nothing.


1- Patrick Mahomes
2- Kyler Murray

3- Maybe Russ? Maybe Rodgers? Maybe Kamara?

I need to watch more Cardinals. He does jump off the screen when you watch him but was he not pretty average in the first part of the season? Passing wise at least? Hanzus said it casually when listing his candidates, and it just caught me off guard. I can't find one good stat on him outside of his running yardage and touchdowns, and those are exceptional to be fair.

While ESPN QBR is a weird metric since we don't know how it works, I find it weird that Murray is only 10th in it. Jackson was miles ahead of everyone last season which makes sense given QBR has always favoured running quarterbacks. Not Murray though.

Unlike Roethlisberger, I do feel like Murray could legitimately get there this year though.

Nov 19, 2020 18:48:59 GMT Todd said:

I need to watch more Cardinals. He does jump off the screen when you watch him but was he not pretty average in the first part of the season? Passing wise at least? Hanzus said it casually when listing his candidates, and it just caught me off guard. I can't find one good stat on him outside of his running yardage and touchdowns, and those are exceptional to be fair.

While ESPN QBR is a weird metric since we don't know how it works, I find it weird that Murray is only 10th in it. Jackson was miles ahead of everyone last season which makes sense given QBR has always favoured running quarterbacks. Not Murray though.

Unlike Roethlisberger, I do feel like Murray could legitimately get there this year though.

I hear you, but him ball hogging all those rushing TDs is so valuable and seems to be impossible to stop for defenses as he usually has Chase Edmonds running laterally or right behind him the whole time so the defenses have to always watch for the flip to the halfback. He's tiny and fast, too. Plus if you go after him, you're going to leave someone open in the end zone whether it be Nuk, Fitz, Kirk or even a random TE. Kirk got a lot of red zone TDs this season inside the 5 also because they attack Murray. He's extremely valuable to the Arizona team and offense, especially when their defense can't stop great offenses.

Honestly, I am going to be so pissed off if Patrick Mahomes doesn't win the MVP this year. He's near flawless and its literally art to watch him quarterback. The dude is amazing. Beautiful. You name it. And I didn't even get to the football part yet!

My top 5 in the MVP race would be like this:


1- Mahomes
2- Murray
3- Russ
4- Rodgers
5- Josh Allen; ugh.

It sucks, because Alvin Kamara and Dalvin Cook have been carrying their teams offenses all season too but RBs don't really get the love they deserve in the MVP race. CMC had a historic season last year, but there was no way he was getting MVP over Lamar. The MVP is just a QB award, which I find unfair.

Davante Adams did not practice again today. UT

I think they're going to keep him out this game.

Easy peezy.

Good stuff Kid.

It's annoying that they don't just make the OPOY a non QB award. Seems like such an easy fix and would make OPOY way more interesting.