Gage may as well retire out of embarrassment.

First Ryder and he's losing to the DemoGod on Dynamite.

But not before he makes God bleed.  Jericho knows who he is fighting, so he wanted this match.  He is not likely going to face Gage and not "face Gage."  Gage is going to fuck him up before the Painkiller beats someone like Jericho never beat someone before.  And Jericho better take advantage of this shot, as he can look like a million bucks by really laying into Gage.  Even if Jericho works pretty stiff, this match is really a walk in the park for Gage.  Nothing to do serious damage to him will be used, he will not be set on fire, get more glass becoming permanent parts of his body or be gluing himself up backstage.  

Am super curious though how fast Mox comes out.  Mox has really been itching for a deathmatch with Gage again so why not do it on AEW glass and all?

In all seriousness, I felt as if all eyes were on this match this weekend, I was kind of expecting something special. And it wasn't. I feel, he's got to absolutely nail it with Jericho now to stay in public consciousness, to avoid his run looking a 15-minute of fame freakshow.

It's cool that Gage is getting a big match this week and probably a nice payday to boot, but his style just doesn't have a place on mainstream shows. If he nails it on Wednesday, great, but they will still only use him very sparingly if they ever use him again at all. Maaaybe Mox gets his match and they set that up but I can't see much more than that happening.

I wonder if Jericho takes a light tube stack or not.

Cardona is champ of a company, I didn't know existed until recently.

I can be happy for the Broski! 😎

Poor Dave. 

Thoughts and prayers.



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Damn is Dave out of touch here.  As are a lot of people who are not Gage fans commenting on Gage.  Gage will not change his style.  MDK sees no problem with Gage as who is he is, and Gage does not give a shit about what reviewers think.  Gage only really cares what MDK think.  There is no other wrestler linked to his fans the way Gage is, so if people want Gage to change to be on AEW, he would rather not be on AEW.  AEW does not have a lot of power here, Gage has it, as money will not change his mind.  Bring him in, let him be Gage and you get Gage, it is as simple as that really.  

What people are not realizing about Gage is he worked almost the entire AEW roster that was not brought up by WWE, and moreso put most of them over.  He faced a lot of the women and let them beat the fuck out of him so they would look great.  He let the heels get cheap wins over him.  And he did it as Gage, with no changes to his style.  

I am happy to see Gage in AEW but like most Gage fans can take it or leave it as I will still see Gage elsewhere if he does not join.  And frankly, he may not.  This may not be a case of wanting him in full time at all but just to introduce him as a part timer.  Not even sure Gage wants to do all the travel.

Has anyone else seen Gage's Beyond Wrestling stuff? He can chain. He can wrestle. He loves death match wrestling, and that is what he does best, but it's not all he can do. I know the match with Jericho is going to be as close to TNT will allow for a death match, but he could be a regular asset to the company. I'm not sure that would be what he would want to do, but he could. I agree that he probably doesn't care about the money, but his connection with his fans is undeniable.

I thought the match with Cardona was honestly more than I expected. RSP and 44.0h! fucking over Gage was the right story to tell. I'm honestly curious how often we'll see Cardona defend the title before it changes hands.

Yeah Gage is a lot more than he appears. Dude is a huge fan of high flyers and Japanese wrestling. He also loves chain wrestling. He just has a different style that sells than the stuff he loves.

Jul 26, 2021 2:08:59 GMT NATH45 said:

Poor Dave. 

Thoughts and prayers.



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What is Davey complaining about here?

Can someone explain the tweet?

Embarrassment to the industry? Doesn't that really put them over because he's letting you know they are relevant enough for something they do can be associated with wrestling as a whole.

Was it just an awful finish?

Because they threw things in the ring (melodramatic FUCKS)?

Dude it's not a real sport.

Also 🤯 get up in here. Nick Cage sounds like Nick Gage.

No for real when I first googled the dude just now I spelled it as Cage and got the weirdest result.

Nicolas Cage wrestling death matches doesn't sound like the most farfetched thing I've ever heard.

Jul 26, 2021 22:31:50 GMT @ness said:

Can someone explain the tweet?

Embarrassment to the industry? Doesn't that really put them over because he's letting you know they are relevant enough for something they do can be associated with wrestling as a whole?

Was it just an awful finish?

Because they threw things in the ring (melodramatic FUCKS)?

Dude, it's not a real sport.

@ness, BRO, you gotta remember. It's not wrestling to some people if they're not complaining acting like gatekeepers bitching that deathmatch wrestling isn't true wrestling. Because those kinds of wrestlers can't earn a living.

Just wanna say as I watch the Gage Doc, I understand the appeal of DMs right now. With all the entertainment options at our fingertips watching boring old wrestling ain't it. But seeing freaks kill each other, yeah that's something.

I like the occasional dm (followed czw for a good few years) but sitting through a whole tod is for a special kind of person.

I'm kind of leaning toward checking out a local deathmatch promotion. It looks neat on paper.

Jul 26, 2021 22:31:50 GMT @ness said:

Because they threw things in the ring (melodramatic FUCKS)?

Yeah that was it, and to be honest he's perfectly right, and it's pretty lame that the response here is that huhuh Meltzer is out of touch. GCW celebrating and encouraging their fans to do this stupid shit is only going to lead to it escalating in the future - and if something serious happens as a result they're going to look really dumb. 

Meltzer is completely right IMHO with this, it's not just for wrestler safety but for referee safety or ring announcer safety or commentator safety, and rings are extremely expensive and imagine if you do that before the main event and wrestlers have to work in awful conditioned rings. Droz got paralyzed because the ring for him & DLo was slippery, it's a terrible practice. GCW is fortunate nobody had to work in the ring after that match, would be a tough ask to ask two wrestlers to do high flying or grappling in that type of conditioned ring. 

NBA players got stuff thrown at them early in the playoffs and fans got banished completely which is the correct thing to do. I didn't even see it from Irving's point of view that it makes wrestlers look like circus animals when throwing popcorn or drinks at them but there's that. It's just disrespectful altogether. 

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Jul 26, 2021 22:31:50 GMT @ness said:

Because they threw things in the ring (melodramatic FUCKS)?

Yeah that was it, and to be honest he's perfectly right, and it's pretty lame that the response here is that huhuh Meltzer is out of touch. GCW celebrating and encouraging their fans to do this stupid shit is only going to lead to it escalating in the future - and if something serious happens as a result they're going to look really dumb. 

I'm not familiar with the story. I am curious though. I wonder if he had the same gripe with WCW fans that threw trash in the ring. His being fearful for the safety of the fans is 1 thing. If that's all it's about fine. I just would like to see Dave complain with the same passion if another promotion encouraged this.

" I can't believe those fans would throw rubbish... " 
- Dave Meltzer, July 2021. 

Jul 27, 2021 0:00:49 GMT Blindy said:

Meltzer is completely right IMHO with this, it's not just for wrestler safety but for referee safety or ring announcer safety or commentator safety, and rings are extremely expensive and imagine if you do that before the main event and wrestlers have to work in awful conditioned rings. Droz got paralyzed because the ring for him & DLo was slippery, it's a terrible practice. GCW is fortunate nobody had to work in the ring after that match, would be a tough ask to ask two wrestlers to do high flying or grappling in that type of conditioned ring. 

NBA players got stuff thrown at them early in the playoffs and fans got banished completely which is the correct thing to do. I didn't even see it from Irving's point of view that it makes wrestlers look like circus animals when throwing popcorn or drinks at them but there's that. It's just disrespectful altogether. 

It's a weird line in the sand to draw. On a show that featured all this senseless violence that's the biggest issue he has?

They threw full unopened bottles at Cardona’s head. If you think that’s wrestling, have a word with yourself. It’s funny that people kill Vince and his executives for wanting to disown the term ‘professional wrestling’, but when this is what it’s associated with, can you really blame him?

Jul 27, 2021 10:05:46 GMT Big Pete said:

Jul 27, 2021 0:00:49 GMT Blindy said:

Meltzer is completely right IMHO with this, it's not just for wrestler safety but for referee safety or ring announcer safety or commentator safety, and rings are extremely expensive and imagine if you do that before the main event and wrestlers have to work in awful conditioned rings. Droz got paralyzed because the ring for him & DLo was slippery, it's a terrible practice. GCW is fortunate nobody had to work in the ring after that match, would be a tough ask to ask two wrestlers to do high flying or grappling in that type of conditioned ring. 

NBA players got stuff thrown at them early in the playoffs and fans got banished completely which is the correct thing to do. I didn't even see it from Irving's point of view that it makes wrestlers look like circus animals when throwing popcorn or drinks at them but there's that. It's just disrespectful altogether. 

It's a weird line in the sand to draw. On a show that featured all this senseless violence that's the biggest issue he has?

Rough take. Deathmatch wrestling is stupid, but consensual and, to a degree, choreographed. Throwing things at someone is assault.

Jul 27, 2021 10:53:12 GMT Todd said:

Jul 27, 2021 10:05:46 GMT Big Pete said:

It's a weird line in the sand to draw. On a show that featured all this senseless violence that's the biggest issue he has?

Rough take. Deathmatch wrestling is stupid, but consensual and, to a degree, choreographed. Throwing things at someone is assault.

You did watch Darkside of the Ring right? Consent is not exactly GCW and it's performer's MO.

For mine, this is the type of reaction the promotion actively encourages and the promoter has come out and used this controversy to build his brand. Again, it's a weird thing that Meltzer decides this is the line in the sand.

I mean, a full glass beer bottle to the temple could blind him, could kill him. It’s one thing to agree to a controlled environment in which stunts are performed, it’s another to say it’s ok for fans to assault wrestlers because ‘that’s their MO’. It’s stupid, whether they want that reaction or not. And I hate Dave Meltzer more than anyone here, believe me.

Jul 27, 2021 11:13:04 GMT Todd said:

I mean, a full glass beer bottle to the temple could blind him, could kill him. It’s one thing to agree to a controlled environment in which stunts are performed, it’s another to say it’s ok for fans to assault wrestlers because ‘that’s their MO’. It’s stupid, whether they want that reaction or not. And I hate Dave Meltzer more than anyone here, believe me.

I'm not saying it's fine, I'm saying it's stupid to draw a line in the sand there when the promotion has been pulling these stunts for years and these performers have been completely unsafe and taken advantage of inexperienced wrestlers.

It's all part in parcel.

You're all missing the silliest point, Uncle Dave commented that the people who threw bottles were plants to entice a others to throw bottles.

What do you mean by drawing a line? Meltzer has condemned this for years, he hasn’t reserved a particular level of condemnation for this.

Jul 27, 2021 11:19:44 GMT Todd said:

What do you mean by drawing a line? Meltzer has condemned this for years, he hasn’t reserved a particular level of condemnation for this.

I've listened to Meltzer for years and this is the first time he's really gone after them. The smart play here would have been to give it no air, instead he's just added fuel to the fire for these troglodytes.