What do you guys make of it? Has the wrestling culture war gone too far or is this just some desperate fan trying to get 15 more minutes of fame? Has Cornette gone too far?

Has Cornette gone too far? What’s Cornette done? 😂

To be fair both Jim and Brian did just that.

And coming to Jim's defence.

Love Cornette and Jericho responding to his crude attempt at violence with threats of crude attempts at violence. But of course they're right to shame that guy. Moron.

Cornette is Trump because some loser jumped the rail? Fuck I hate the internet.

Would love to see someone try this shit with The Revival or Kingston. Security would have to protect the fan in that case. I was wondering when we would see Trumpism bleed into wrestling more.

Seems ridiculous to blame Cornette or guys like Disco Inferno or Russo who are just as critical of AEW responsible. Cornette & Last condemned them. Unlike with Trump and the insurrection(Who Cornette loathes), Cornette nor Brian Last are telling these people to jump the railing and attack AEW stars because of the product put in the ring. They laugh if not punch the wall at most of what is shown but they have not once advocated to get involved in the ring.

The guy who tried to attack Bret Hart(And met FTR's fists) had no affiliation with Cornette, fans do stupid things and will always do stupid things, especially with them back. Omega and others trying to use this on Cornette are pathetic IMO. I am disappointed in Omega more than anything, with Reby Hardy and the like, they are and will always be emotional but Omega is suppose to be a Vice President and seems level headed of all of them in the company. But because Cornette hates his guts, it's open season to let it loose and say Cornette made this fan do what he did.

Jul 10, 2021 12:55:25 GMT c said:

Would love to see someone try this shit with The Revival or Kingston. Security would have to protect the fan in that case. I was wondering when we would see Trumpism bleed into wrestling more.

A poor ol fan few years back tried to attack Bret Hart with all of his health issues and yeah.




Dash/Wilder lit him up like a christmas tree. Begins at 4:14.

Kenny Omega is right. I respect Corny while not agreeing with his views of AEW or most of the modern wrestling but, he needs to cut off & distance himself from the nutjob portion of his fanbase.

He can't. That's his income. You'd think after working for every major company for decades he would be set, but drive thrus are expensive over time.

For the most part I love Cornette, but there's a reason why I don't listen to the podcast anymore. There's only so much you can take. However, this is not what he's about and this is the type of fan that he abhors...the one that thinks they know, then proves they have no clue. Kinda like that person you train at work that doesn't take notes and then always screws up.

Jul 10, 2021 16:30:11 GMT @ness said:

He can't. That's his income. You'd think after working for every major company for decades he would be set, but drive-thrus are expensive over time.

That's funny because after talking to actual decent people that support Corny, you'd think these kinds of nutjobs are in the minority but, it's the complete opposite. These kinds of fools make up a great percentage of the cult. With the greater number being above them. This segment of the cult won't harm anyone physically. They'll berate fans for not slurping every drop of the Corny kool-aid. They'll say wrestlers shouldn't be able to make a living just because they wrestle in a way that doesn't suit them. Beyond the pale behavior.

I don't think this Cornette or Brian are to blame for some fan doing something in their name. I don't listen to all their stuff but I don't recall them every saying people should jump the rail. Then the guy goes to twitter to brag about it. Some wrestling fans are just delusional.

I do like how even though Jericho has been going back and forth with Cornette. He knew Cornette didn't deserve the blame.

This will likely be the first of these events. Too tired to go into the memetic transmission of aggression and recombinant memes, but was an area I did research in for many years and Crony taps something that will encourage this sort of behavior with his anger towards the current product. Criticism is fine, but the way he rallies with such anger against certain things is dangerous, particularly for those who are exposed to people like Corny in areas outside of wrestling that do encourage direct action to change things.

Owens be like: I warned you guys! Nobody listened!

Chris Jericho is going to turn this into a bit and have a fat midget attack MJF or something.

Jul 10, 2021 20:45:26 GMT c said:

This will likely be the first of these events. Too tired to go into the memetic transmission of aggression and recombinant memes, but was an area I did research in for many years and Crony taps something that will encourage this sort of behavior with his anger towards the current product. Criticism is fine, but the way he rallies with such anger against certain things is dangerous, particularly for those who are exposed to people like Corny in areas outside of wrestling that do encourage direct action to change things.

It's giving cadence to a nutjob his reasoning to do this. He went after MJF, one of Cornette's favorites today. Not Janela or The Young Bucks or Omega. If this was an actual Cornette fan, than with said warped logic, he'd jump a women's match or Young Bucks match, not do it with MJF in the ring, who Cornette still likes, even if his stock isn't what it once was.

That's like blaming Bryan Alvarez constantly bashing the WWE product and saying it's garbage booking for someone to jump in a WWE event. It's completely nonsensical. 

It's dangerous logic too because if this is how to silence criticism, then you will see false flags and acto....I mean fans hired to do the same if it means the opposing critic is tarnished. 

The nutjob brought up Cornette and Last as a means for notoriety and to try and deflect the blame when it comes to him getting held in court. 

I listen to the show(Well the Youtube stuff) weekly, he doesn't really express anger anymore. He just thinks the product is shit for the most part and will either not tune in to the "nonsense"(Japanese women's wrestling or the gimmicky fights) or just completely laugh it up or turn the channel off mid or most of the way through. I know he would not watch the show if the youtube views/revenue wasn't coming in from people who want to see his reaction. 

Probably won't know for years but I also wonder if it was staged or if AEW hired really poor poor security. Because this "fan" has time to walk down the entrance ramp, pose, and take of his shirt before security gets to him.

Jesus, people are acting like this has never happened before.

Cornette however, is pretty much critical of the entire business, because in 2021 it sucks. And it has sucked for a long time, he's no different than most commentators that aren't on TK's or the WWE's payroll.

Corny's exposure however is similar to the perception of any 'outsider' commentator. You most likely only hear the extreme or outrageous comments, without the 30 or 40 minutes of sensible or constructive conversation before it. Similar I'm sure Matt Jackson still cries himself to sleep after hearing Kevin Nash call Eddie Guerrero a vanilla midget yet took in nothing about making as much money as possible and working every promoter he's ever worked for...

Dumbass fan is responsible for his own actions, no one else.

Reby Hardy is coming out of this thing looking more like an asshole than anyone else.

The issue with Jim is that a lot of his criticisms extend beyond wrestling. Take Omega where he's used homophobic language and made inferences about him being a pedophile who likes Japanese school girls. You tie that in with his use of expressions like 'boil them in oil and sell their fat for soap' and you attract those QAnon freaks. It doesn't help that he's created this 'cult of Cornette' movement that just wants Pro Wrestling to be great again.

I don't think this guy did it for Cornette, he's just a loser. However it's a line in the sand moment for Jim and he just needs to set the record straight which I presume he'll do on the Drive-Thru.

I don't think there's anything wrong with him expressing his opinion on Pro Wrestling. A lot of the points he makes are fair but there are times where the show clearly isn't trying to pander to him.

Does anyone else find it hypocritical that AEW aired an obvious parody of Jim on their show and now they're using this against him?

Jul 11, 2021 6:11:10 GMT Big Pete said:

The issue with Jim is that a lot of his criticisms extend beyond wrestling. Take Omega, where he's used homophobic language and made inferences about him being a pedophile who likes Japanese schoolgirls. You tie that in with his use of expressions like 'boil them in oil and sell their fat for soap' and you attract those QAnon freaks. It doesn't help that he's created this 'cult of Cornette' movement that just wants Pro Wrestling to be great again.

I don't think this guy did it for Cornette, he's just a loser. However, it's a line in the sand moment for Jim and he just needs to set the record straight, which I presume he'll do on the Drive-Thru.

I don't think there's anything wrong with him expressing his opinion on Pro Wrestling. A lot of the points he makes are fair but, there are times where the show clearly isn't trying to pander to him.

Does anyone else find it hypocritical that AEW aired an obvious parody of Jim on their show and now they're using this against him?

Exactly. I believe Cornette owes it to the sensible segment that the behavior displayed by this clown in no way indicative of the fanbase at large. He has no problem spending 10-30 minutes on his shows whining about Donald Trump, what he considers play & mud show wrestlers or, Kenny wrestling a girl. A Twitter apology isn't enough. This goes far beyond Corny's wrestling takes. It's the hyperbolic nature of how he expresses them. Nobody is saying Jim is responsible for this incident but, his commentary on certain subjects is influential. For supporters to act like it isn't or Jim's criticisms of a lot of wrestling-related subjects are just about the action inside the ring are being naive. I used to spend time in these groups. I wanted to talk old-school wrestling. When outlandish views were expressed, most of the time they were parroted by the loons. Which I kind of expected but, what I found annoying was that the rational people didn't denounce the loons & didn't draw a line.

The discourse on this is a joke, people are responsible for their own actions.

If the guy jumped the barricade and said the devil made him do it, are you going to ask him for an apology too?

Jul 11, 2021 19:13:48 GMT System said:

The discourse on this is a joke, people are responsible for their own actions.

If the guy jumped the barricade and said the devil made him do it, are you going to ask him for an apology too?

No but you will inspire endless works of fiction. The dude is clearly just aiming for a book deal!

While I generally disagree with anything Cornette says in regards to AEW, to blame him for some goober jumping the barricade is absurd. The things that Cornette has said about Kenny Omega are not cool, so in that regard I don't blame Kenny for reacting the way that he did, but Cornette isn't to blame for some deranged idiot's actions.

Jul 11, 2021 19:13:48 GMT System said:

The discourse on this is a joke, people are responsible for their own actions.

If the guy jumped the barricade and said the devil made him do it, are you going to ask him for an apology too?

I never said Jim was responsible for anything this guy did. Influence & responsibility are 2 entirely different things. Extremists don't just appear out of thin air. All Cornette has to do is denounce & condemned these wackos with the same passion he does other things.

Jul 11, 2021 6:11:10 GMT Big Pete said:

The issue with Jim is that a lot of his criticisms extend beyond wrestling. Take Omega where he's used homophobic language and made inferences about him being a pedophile who likes Japanese school girls. You tie that in with his use of expressions like 'boil them in oil and sell their fat for soap' and you attract those QAnon freaks. It doesn't help that he's created this 'cult of Cornette' movement that just wants Pro Wrestling to be great again.

I don't think this guy did it for Cornette, he's just a loser. However it's a line in the sand moment for Jim and he just needs to set the record straight which I presume he'll do on the Drive-Thru.

I don't think there's anything wrong with him expressing his opinion on Pro Wrestling. A lot of the points he makes are fair but there are times where the show clearly isn't trying to pander to him.

Does anyone else find it hypocritical that AEW aired an obvious parody of Jim on their show and now they're using this against him?

The beginning of this video I think says it all:



Not sure if X-zero or Big Pete or System know the characters or terminology being discussed from :20-6:00 like 'Otocko Weabow' or "Zangreeff from Street Fighter 4".

That's where the Japanese culture divide is to older American. We get it as video gamers that there are so many quirks in Japanese entertainment that would never fly in America but to 50+ year old males, this is completely foreign. Seeing Kenny Omega do Final Atomic Busters to blowup dolls or getting involved in spanking matches with other men may be hilarious in Japan but in America, to some it's ridiculous. Cornette would fall into that territory.

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Jul 11, 2021 20:51:56 GMT Jason said:

While I generally disagree with anything Cornette says in regards to AEW, to blame him for some goober jumping the barricade is absurd. The things that Cornette has said about Kenny Omega are not cool, so in that regard I don't blame Kenny for reacting the way that he did, but Cornette isn't to blame for some deranged idiot's actions.

He hates Omega because he faked a grotesque knee injury that he photoshopped and sent to Cornette and Delirious years ago when both were heading ROH when he was booked to appear from them, only to wrestle in Japan on the same night. The facial mannerisms and video game moves add to it but if he was say Roderick Strong(Who he detested for fighting a midget when on TV) or Tommaso Ciampa(Who took the invisible grenade spot from Chuck Taylor), he'd forget it but blowing off a hand shake agreement to Cornette forever kills you to him. That's why he would go above and beyond to bury Omega even when he was at the peak of wrestling reputation with the Okada matches. 

Cornette doesn't forgive people like him or Austin Aries or Kenny King or Santino Morella for what they did to him. I don't know maybe outside of Low Ki(Who might again be on his shit list for being anti-vax) who has ever gotten off of Cornette's shitlist, once he hates you, it's over. Russo, Dunn, Johnny Ace. If he loves you at all, he loves you(Maybe outside of Jericho who he tried so hard to give chances to until he donated to Trump's campaign which I think did it for him)

How is Cornette different to say, Whatculture?

Michael Sidgwick particularly publishes anti-WWE rants, so poorly written, you'd think it was intentional to get heat. All while pushing pro-AEW hyperbolics, so much so, you'd think he was on his knees in Cody's office... begging for a job.

There's a culture around pro-AEW marks that is just as vicious on social media and remain some of the most intolerant to others views on their beloved product. The irony is, they're so eager to bash WWE and its fans, yet can't take what they dish out.

(the same can be said about the Young Bucks..)