Sept 9, 2021 23:17:34 GMT 🤯 said:

Sept 9, 2021 21:51:08 GMT kingoftheworld said:

Jeff Hardy vs Mick Foley. Christ.

Chyna vs Nicole Bass. Am I doing this right?

Oh man, definitely on the second one.

For Jeff dream matches, did he ever cross paths with Sabu? If not, man... Can you imagine!?

How about Jeff Hardy vs Rey Mysterio?

We’ve never seen them in a singles that I know of, just the final two of a four way elimination with Kane and Jericho, on a SD in MSG. Man it was awesome, lots of counters and quick action. Was really interesting watching Jeff take the high flying moves, because whilst he was a cruiser weight himself he didn’t really wrestle the cruiserweight style, he was more of a risk taker so it was weird see him lifting Rey about… for example moves and catching him out of a springboard moonsault. And yes I just looked that match up YouTube cos I wasn’t sure until just now if they’d had a singles match lol

🤯 bringing up Jerry Lynn reminded me of another midcard dream match I once booked in a PW draft...

Chris Benoit vs. Jerry Lynn. Turns out it actually happened on WCW Worldwide in 1996. I'm about to watch it right now.

Sept 10, 2021 0:21:37 GMT 🤯 said:

This might just be the gummies starting to hit, but...

Get the F Out Match: Jerry Lynn vs. Jerry Flynn

Jerry Flynn vs Steve Blackman, I'm serious, take my money now. 

Jerry Flynn vs Ken Shamrock too while we're at it.

Sept 10, 2021 0:26:21 GMT Shootist said:

Sept 10, 2021 0:21:37 GMT 🤯 said:

This might just be the gummies starting to hit, but...

Get the F Out Match: Jerry Lynn vs. Jerry Flynn

Jerry Flynn vs Steve Blackman, I'm serious, take my money now. 

Jerry Flynn vs Ken Shamrock too while we're at it.

Ken Shamrock vs. Tank Abbott?

Sept 10, 2021 0:29:09 GMT 🤯 said:

Sept 10, 2021 0:26:21 GMT Shootist said:

Jerry Flynn vs Steve Blackman, I'm serious, take my money now. 

Jerry Flynn vs Ken Shamrock too while we're at it.

Ken Shamrock vs. Tank Abbott?

Never got into Tank Abbott, pass.

Just spitballing here, another mid card dream that I've tossed around the past few days

Al Snow vs. Kanyon?

I was outlining a rebook back in the day that had Goldberg as a monster heel coming out of Starrcade '99. Basically restarting the streak, only through combination of dominance and cheating this time to massive heat (Bobby Heenan as his mouthpiece for one last managerial run). Anyway, I was thinking of BIG MATCHES for that version of Goldberg, book him like the boxers of the PPV heyday, bring people in just to job to Goldberg, then they go elsewhere.

Goldberg vs. Vader
Goldberg vs. Shamrock
Goldberg vs. Severn

Sept 10, 2021 0:32:16 GMT Shootist said:

Sept 10, 2021 0:29:09 GMT 🤯 said:

Ken Shamrock vs. Tank Abbott?

Never got into Tank Abbott, pass.

Just spitballing here, another mid card dream that I've tossed around the past few days

Al Snow vs. Kanyon?

I was thinking about Al Snow recently…

Could’ve had Al Snow and Head vs Perry Saturn and Moppy?

Sept 10, 2021 3:26:11 GMT Kilgore said:

I was outlining a rebook back in the day that had Goldberg as a monster heel coming out of Starrcade '99. Basically restarting the streak, only through combination of dominance and cheating this time to massive heat (Bobby Heenan as his mouthpiece for one last managerial run). Anyway, I was thinking of BIG MATCHES for that version of Goldberg, book him like the boxers of the PPV heyday, bring people in just to job to Goldberg, then they go elsewhere.

Goldberg vs. Vader
Goldberg vs. Shamrock
Goldberg vs. Severn

Did Goldberg vs. Rob Van Dam ever happen on 2003 RAW? If not, please add that. And fuck it, Goldberg vs. Sabu while we're at it.

Battle of who has the best airbrushed dragon tights, RVD vs Ricky Steamboat.

Goldberg and RVD sort of happened on Raw in 2004 in a Battle Royal for the number 30 spot in the Royal Rumble. Booker T, Chris Jericho, Mark Henry and Randy Orton were also involved

Has Vader ever fought Sabu?

The Hurricane vs. Shark Boy: Book a stellar rivalry and then the two form a mutual respect for one another and Shark Boy becomes Helms most truly fitting sidekick. Sorry not sorry, Rosie.

Mortis vs. The Undertaker: Similar to Hurricane/Shark Boy outcome, but with a manager angle - Vandenberg and Bearer mindcontrolling and manipulating the two until they manage to break hold from their collective spells and then they ally together to lay both of them out - cue a Flatliner and Tombstone Piledriver in sequence.

Hayabusa vs. Jeff Hardy: Specifically a ladder match with kickass high spots.

Nick Mondo vs. Jon Moxley: These could have been some amazingly brutal contests that we were potentially robbed of. Thanks, Zandig. The promos would have been fun, too. You could switch Mox for Sami but Mox compliments Mondo better I think.

Bryan Danielson vs. Dean Malenko/Mr. Perfect/Brian Pillman/Owen Hart/Pretty much any pre-2000's badass: My most conventional response here. Specifically heel Bryan in an ROH setting. Malenko would probably be my preference since I think they'd compliment each other so damn well.

Akira Tozawa vs. Steve Blackman: I have no idea why, it just sounds really fun to me. I'll mark out for Steve Blackman no matter what though. In fact, I might just have to change my avatar now.... I want Akira's ninjas and Blackman wearing the cheesehead hat. Biggest pop reserved for Al Snow and Head making the save *cough* Headcheese 4 Lyfe *cough* .

I've got soooo many more, probably some key ones I'm forgetting. This right here is my kind of thread, I'm sure I'll think of some more in the future.

That’s some good choices there. Bringing up Blackman gives me an idea

Steve Blackman vs Rob Van Dam. Both were dominant Hardcore Champions who effectively made the 24/7 rule useless as no one really challenged them under 24/7 rules like would usually happen. During the Invasion would’ve been a great filler feud for TV for RVD after his feud with Jeff. Not sure if I see it being a PPV match but it would’ve been interesting to see none the less.

Outsiders vs. Mega Powers is a long term feud headlining pay per views every single time I toy with a WCW rebook. Still can't believe WCW never booked this. Should have been one of the biggest matches/feuds of 1998. Demolition vs Acolytes in the Colossal Clubberin' also would have been cool.

Sept 14, 2021 0:33:36 GMT Baker said:

Outsiders vs. Mega Powers is a long term feud headlining pay per views every single time I toy with a WCW rebook. Still can't believe WCW never booked this. Should have been one of the biggest matches/feuds of 1998. Demolition vs Acolytes in the Colossal Clubberin' also would have been cool.

So in that case would the Mega Powers actually be the heels and you keep Savage with nWo Hollywood?

Some interesting dream match outtakes that didn't make the cut when we did that top 10 a few years back:

Road Warriors vs. Big, Bad and Dangerous (Vader and Bam Bam Bigelow)
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs. Terry Funk- Could have happened after their Shotgun Saturday Night confrontation, no?
Randy Savage vs. Chris Jericho
The Rock vs. Sting (classic era)
Sting (Joker gimmick) vs. Raven
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs. Taz
Eddie Guerrero vs. AJ Styles
DDP vs. Jake Roberts
Steiners vs. APA
Steiners vs. The Eliminators
Steiners vs. The Brainbusters
Eliminators vs. Edge and Christian TLC
Eliminators vs. The Hardys TLC
Eliminators vs. The Midnight Express
Mega Powers vs. The Brainbusters
Mega Powers vs. Demolition
Cactus Jack vs. RVD
Mankind vs. Jake Roberts
Jake Roberts vs. CM Punk
Jake Roberts vs. Raven
The Rock vs. Razor Ramon
Ric Flair vs. Stan Hansen
Undertaker vs. Stan Hansen
Undertaker vs. Bruiser Brody
Ricky Steamboat vs. Stan Hansen
Ricky Steamboat vs. Hulk Hogan
WWF Superpowers (Hogan, Savage, Warrior, Jake The Snake) vs. The Four Horsemen (Flair, Tully, Arn and Windham)- War Games sometime in 1988
Sting's Squadron (Sting, Luger and The Road Warriors) vs. The Hulkamaniacs (Hogan, Jake and Demolition)- Survivor Series Match
Brock Lesnar vs. Nikita Koloff
Brock Lesnar vs. Scott Steiner

Sept 14, 2021 3:14:07 GMT Shootist said:

Sept 14, 2021 0:33:36 GMT Baker said:

Outsiders vs. Mega Powers is a long term feud headlining pay per views every single time I toy with a WCW rebook. Still can't believe WCW never booked this. Should have been one of the biggest matches/feuds of 1998. 

So in that case would the Mega Powers actually be the heels?

Nah. Mega Powers would be the lesser of two evils in this scenario.

Sting goes over Hogan clean in like 5 minutes at Starrcade. Outsiders kick Hogan out of the NWO for "going soft." You can either do this the night after Starrcade or go with the slow burn approach. I toyed around with both scenarios before settling on the slow burn because I believe in milking stuff for as long as possible. Savage eventually sides with Hogan leading to at least one main event tag match on PPV. No Wolfpack and Hollywood nonsense here. There remains just one NWO- The Outsiders streamlined NWO. Hogan & Savage are tweeners rejected by both WCW & NWO until either becoming fully embraced by WCW, or going back to the NWO when the Outsiders make a deal with the devil to help them deal with a resurgent WCW babyface squad bolstered by Goldberg, Bret, and a full time Sting. Hogan & Savage going NWO again around Halloween Havoc '98 is the better of these two scenarios.

I never got super far with this project by the way. I think one time I mapped out all the 1998 PPV main events and most (all?) of the penultimate matches, but barely even scratched the surface with the undercard. The roster was too stacked, and I don't know that era like the back of my hand, so I threw in the towel pretty quickly. 

Then there's my "What if WCW survived?" project where the Outsiders wrestle the Mega Powers at Starrcade 01 in a "Losers Leave Town (and so do the winners!)" match to signal a new era in WCW (and score some cheap PPV buys in the process). 

My reaction ranges from a little surprised to full-on stunned that the following never happened in any capacity:

Sept 14, 2021 3:14:07 GMT Shootist said:

Some interesting dream match outtakes that didn't make the cut when we did that top 10 a few years back:

Road Warriors vs. Big, Bad and Dangerous (Vader and Bam Bam Bigelow)
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs. Terry Funk- Could have happened after their Shotgun Saturday Night confrontation, no?
Steiners vs. The Eliminators
Steiners vs. The Brainbusters
Mega Powers vs. The Brainbusters
Mega Powers vs. Demolition
Mankind vs. Jake Roberts
The Rock vs. Razor Ramon
Ric Flair vs. Stan Hansen

Sept 14, 2021 16:14:47 GMT 🤯 said:

My reaction ranges from a little surprised to full-on stunned that the following never happened in any capacity:

Sept 14, 2021 3:14:07 GMT Shootist said:

Some interesting dream match outtakes that didn't make the cut when we did that top 10 a few years back:

Road Warriors vs. Big, Bad and Dangerous (Vader and Bam Bam Bigelow)
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs. Terry Funk- Could have happened after their Shotgun Saturday Night confrontation, no?
Steiners vs. The Eliminators
Steiners vs. The Brainbusters
Mega Powers vs. The Brainbusters
Mega Powers vs. Demolition
Mankind vs. Jake Roberts
The Rock vs. Razor Ramon
Ric Flair vs. Stan Hansen

Mankind and Jake I guess did happen, my approach though with some of these were full on storylines between the characters.

They also had this interesting dark match at a TV taping in August 1996:

Jake Roberts and The Undertaker vs. Mankind and Jerry Lawler

Let's do more digging, since I never did full on research into whether they never happened or not:

Flair and Hansen met mostly in tags between 1978 and 1984 with only 5 singles matches to their name, all on house shows too, no big events.

Austin and Funk never did happen, though they teamed numerous times in six mans with Cactus Jack against DX in early 1998. There were also these dark match gems:

Austin, Undertaker, Ken Shamrock, Farooq and Terry Funk vs.  Kane, Dude Love, Owen Hart, The Rock and Triple H- Raw Dark Match 6/15/1998

Austin, Undertaker, Cactus Jack, Terry Funk vs. The Rock, Farooq, D-Lo Brown and Kama-  Shotgun Saturday Night/Raw Dark Match 12/30/1997

Steiners and Eliminators sort of happened in a six man at ECW Gangsta's Paradise in Sept 1995 also involving Taz and Jason Knight

Steiner and Brainbusters were ships in the night as Tully and Arn were done in Sept. 1988 in the NWA while the Steiners didn't get going until the summer of 1989. If Tully hadn't tested positive for coke in late 1989 it could have happened.

Animal was in the WWF/injured while Vader and Bigelow were doing their damage in Japan. Hawk and Kensuke Sasaki never faced them either as the Hell Raisers. Just more interaction between Vader and The Road Warriors in general was a missed opportunity. They did team in 6 mans though in the summer of 1998 against DX/DOA. Plus they did oppose each other in one of the Road Warriors last matches in Japan in the summer of 2003 for Big Japan or some lesser company like that. Animal was also captain of the good guy War Games team against Vader's team at Fall Brawl '93.

Hogan I'm sure would have felt being above working against an "NWA mid card team" like Tully and Arn while the WWF was adverse to matches like Mega Powers vs. Tag Team Champs Demolition

The New Day ]as heels] vs The Freebirds in World Class.

I always wanted to book New Jack vs Shane Mcmahon feud in the fan fic draft back in the day, not sure why I never pulled the trigger on it but it practically writes itself and could have been all kinds of fucking ludicrous.

Rob Van Dam & Sabu vs. The Young Bucks - Ladder Match

The Junkyard Dog vs MJF. The heat for this feud would be unreal.

1985/86 - The Road Warriors vs Ted Dibiase and Dr Death Steve Williams

1987 - Ted Dibiase vs Dr Death Steve Williams Before leaving the UWF for the WWF it was teased that Dibiase was turning heel.

Sheamus vs. Masato Tanaka. I just wanna see 'em beat the shit out of each other.

Seth Rollins and Becky Lynch vs. Kensuke Sasaki and Akira Hokuto.

Prime Taz vs. Dean Malenko.

This thread deserves a bump and I also thought of a new one this morning:

An ECW faction vs. Right To Censor in WWF.

Richards and the group start harassing Paul on commentary for his sordid past with ECW. Paul Heyman has enough and debuts the group as his muscle, exposing Steven Richards as a hypocrite for his own past with the company in a promo. Paul E uses some line like "y'know, back when you were Raven's little bitch" or something like that. That's about as far as I got with it so far.

Oct 16, 2021 13:21:54 GMT rad said:

This thread deserves a bump and I also thought of a new one this morning:

An ECW faction vs. Right To Censor in WWF.

Richards and the group start harassing Paul on commentary for his sordid past with ECW. Paul Heyman has enough and debuts the group as his muscle, exposing Steven Richards as a hypocrite for his own past with the company in a promo. Paul E uses some line like "y'know, back when you were Raven's little bitch" or something like that. That's about as far as I got with it so far.

I could be so down for this...

Steven Richards, Val Venis, Ivory, Bull Buchanan & The Goodfather vs. Raven, Tazz, Jazz, Justin Credible, and Jerry Lynn!

Bret/Owen/Bulldog vs. Flair/Arn/Benoit w/ Brian Pillman as special guest referee.

Oct 16, 2021 14:22:07 GMT Baker said:

Bret/Owen/Bulldog vs. Flair/Arn/Benoit w/ Brian Pillman as special guest referee.

God, I want this dream match about a million times more than the Hogan/Hall/Nash vs. HHH & NAO with Waltman as ref six-man.

Flair, Arn, Tully, Windham and JJ vs. Perfect, Rude, Orndorff, Bockwinkle and Heenan in War Games since we are in a faction vs. faction mode.

Finlay vs. Ronnie Garvin

Feels like some sort of clone vs. clone mirror world shit you'd only see in the Matrix.

Once used "Fit Finlay" in Scattegories for athlete and F.

Dad claims wrestlers don't count. Dude was just made I had unlimited answers due to being a wrestling fan that the rest of the family lacked.