They got time to read them.

Jun 19, 2023 12:20:53 GMT c said:

Production line workers are just .1% of the US workforce. The reason we focus on desk workers here is depending on how you define it, 60 to 80 percent of US workers are workers who spend most of their time at a desk.

There's a lot who don't work at a desk, between manufacturing, trades, retail, service, logistics, healthcare there are a lot of people with real jobs

I'm ready to sack out freight company. It's frustrating the hell out of me. You have a rep, then he has a customer service representative and then he has a lackey who does all the legwork, 100% of his job is answering emails.

I know they are still working from home and I send urgent emails with read receipts and they don't even get read for 2-3hrs... I know this guy has his thumb up his ass and I know he wouldn't if he was in the office. So they're going to lose me as a customer and I won't sign with anyone who is working from home.

Jun 21, 2023 3:08:16 GMT iNCY said:

Jun 19, 2023 12:20:53 GMT c said:

Production line workers are just .1% of the US workforce. The reason we focus on desk workers here is depending on how you define it, 60 to 80 percent of US workers are workers who spend most of their time at a desk.

There's a lot who don't work at a desk, between manufacturing, trades, retail, service, logistics, healthcare there are a lot of people with real jobs

I'm ready to sack out freight company. It's frustrating the hell out of me. You have a rep, then he has a customer service representative and then he has a lackey who does all the legwork, 100% of his job is answering emails.

I know they are still working from home and I send urgent emails with read receipts and they don't even get read for 2-3hrs... I know this guy has his thumb up his ass and I know he wouldn't if he was in the office. So they're going to lose me as a customer and I won't sign with anyone who is working from home.

Can you call them? A previous boss of mine used to say that there is no such thing as an urgent email since it's an async communication. If something is important, call them. Now, we were just software engineers and not customer-facing. For urgent bugs we got phone calls or people walked over.

Jun 21, 2023 17:26:00 GMT Gyro LC said:

Jun 21, 2023 3:08:16 GMT iNCY said:

There's a lot who don't work at a desk, between manufacturing, trades, retail, service, logistics, healthcare there are a lot of people with real jobs

I'm ready to sack out freight company. It's frustrating the hell out of me. You have a rep, then he has a customer service representative and then he has a lackey who does all the legwork, 100% of his job is answering emails.

I know they are still working from home and I send urgent emails with read receipts and they don't even get read for 2-3hrs... I know this guy has his thumb up his ass and I know he wouldn't if he was in the office. So they're going to lose me as a customer and I won't sign with anyone who is working from home.

Can you call them? A previous boss of mine used to say that there is no such thing as an urgent email since it's an async communication. If something is important, call them. Now, we were just software engineers and not customer-facing. For urgent bugs we got phone calls or people walked over.

I am very old school like. That, normally I would call then follow up with an email. This company doesn't hand out mobile numbers, only PBX extensions.... Which nobody there ever answers.

Newest thing coming to restaurants are service charges. Places using them at 10% to 25% to your bill for overall service. A tip is still expected. These places claim that they cannot raise prices because patreons will not order, so they just surprise them at the end with a line item that many will not read.

Other places are moving away from tips finally and just adding an overall 25% to 40% all inclusive service charge because tipping fatigue is seeing people drop how much they will leave from 25% to closer to 15%.

Gonna be fun during the overlap where no one really knows if you should tip or not at any given place since both standards are spreading in markets.

And the restaurant industry is likely to see mass closing in the coming years as the only way for many to stay afloat is deceptive practices with pricing.

Jul 3, 2023 1:35:15 GMT c said:

Newest thing coming to restaurants are service charges. Places using them at 10% to 25% to your bill for overall service. A tip is still expected. These places claim that they cannot raise prices because patreons will not order, so they just surprise them at the end with a line item that many will not read.

Other places are moving away from tips finally and just adding an overall 25% to 40% all inclusive service charge because tipping fatigue is seeing people drop how much they will leave from 25% to closer to 15%.

Gonna be fun during the overlap where no one really knows if you should tip or not at any given place since both standards are spreading in markets.

And the restaurant industry is likely to see mass closing in the coming years as the only way for many to stay afloat is deceptive practices with pricing.

This practice would be illegal in Australia, here the price has to be the price.
It is a bit of a nonsense the whole tipping culture.

Unless they pass laws though that guarantee worker wages it will be impossible as the first companies to roll the cost of service into their pricing will go bankrupt.

In Britain half of the people who took early retirement before or during COVID are now in poverty and need government assistance.

Inflation was not factored into most retirement plans and people are rapidly finding it is hard to get back into the workforce after trying an early retirement.

Gonna be hilarious when governments need to jack up tax money to support people making use of the FIRE philosophy of financial independence.  

Four 4 dead in the Texas heatwave at their jobs after mandated breaks to cool off and get water were removed.

Jul 3, 2023 2:08:29 GMT iNCY said:

Jul 3, 2023 1:35:15 GMT c said:

Newest thing coming to restaurants are service charges. Places using them at 10% to 25% to your bill for overall service. A tip is still expected. These places claim that they cannot raise prices because patreons will not order, so they just surprise them at the end with a line item that many will not read.

Other places are moving away from tips finally and just adding an overall 25% to 40% all inclusive service charge because tipping fatigue is seeing people drop how much they will leave from 25% to closer to 15%.

Gonna be fun during the overlap where no one really knows if you should tip or not at any given place since both standards are spreading in markets.

And the restaurant industry is likely to see mass closing in the coming years as the only way for many to stay afloat is deceptive practices with pricing.

This practice would be illegal in Australia, here the price has to be the price.
It is a bit of a nonsense the whole tipping culture.

Unless they pass laws though that guarantee worker wages it will be impossible as the first companies to roll the cost of service into their pricing will go bankrupt.

My issue is I tip because otherwise these servers are tipping out to the kitchen, busser & bartenders so are only keeping a % of what you are actually tipping.  If a company charges me a 'service charge' how can I be sure it's going to that staff and not into their pockets? Also, if they want to do that then just raise the prices I guess since all that stuff should be included in the price, but then don't expect me to tip and pay your staff a living wage. 

I was watching a show where restaurants in Niagara Falls were charging a percentage (which varied) on everyone's bills as a 'tourism fee' (naming convention also varied from place to place) which was NOT endorsed or supported by the Province, City or Niagara Business Association and very few people were questioning it. It was not going to the servers either. 

www.cbc.ca/news/business/marketplace-tourist-fees-1.6739759

UPS strike looking more and more likely. Workers want wage increases because UPS posted record profits, UPS says they cannot increase the wages. Two weeks left, or the largest strike against a single employer in US history goes down. If they strike UPS will start to lose about 100 million a day and US shipping slows down by 37%.

End of an era is here. Google about to disconnect all of it's employees to non-essential internet sites. Very likely now one major company did it, everyone will jump on this shit. Google claims it is for cyber-security reasons, so very hard to even argue with it given how dangerous ransomware is.

The hilarious irony here is those who do the least will be effected the most.

With six days to spare the UPS contract was resolved and the strike threat lifted. US supply chain saved for now.

Hollywood strikes still have no end in site, and many on both sides assume they will last until Oct or Nov at least.

What an insane contract. If that 49/max is true, that's 100k straight time...

Seems striking while a gamble does work. FritoLay also got rid of their 2 tiers (such a bullshit tactic) a while back when they tried this.

My company has been holding a full time return to office over our heads for a while now but they've finally ceded and officially made two WFH days a week the ongoing policy - I got a great kick out of our CEOs begrudging tone in the email. :lol: I actually quite like my job but I would have started to look elsewhere if they'd taken WFH away completely, instead onwards we go to get that long service leave!

Jul 26, 2023 0:39:57 GMT @admin said:

My company has been holding a full time return to office over our heads for a while now but they've finally ceded and officially made two WFH days a week the ongoing policy - I got a great kick out of our CEOs begrudging tone in the email. :lol: I actually quite like my job but I would have started to look elsewhere if they'd taken WFH away completely, instead onwards we go to get that long service leave!

I can't believe when the bank announced recently that they wanted full time in the office, the union kicked up because Mother's would be adversely impacted and have to pay for childcare.

If you're "WFH" and also have small children at home, you are working part time at best during business hours.
If you have project work that can be done any time, then who cares... But this is a bank with office hours

A lot tech companies in the US are in the find out phase. They all shedded workers to prop up stock thinking they could just get them back.

Now Canada is trying to get tech workers up there, seeing 10k applications in 48 hours as they offer visas and paths to citizenship. Unknown how many will be fired but looks like there is a real push for Canada to grew their tech section, and raiding the talented US workers seems like a great way to get them.

Expected that as companies grow their AI divisions these workers will be in very limited supply and very high demand. Almost all real AI work is at the PhD level, in math, CS or statistics, so the talent pool is extremely small as well. And companies that feel degrees do not equal knowledge, end up looking like Twitter and seeing their systems fail entirely.

Jul 26, 2023 1:50:25 GMT c said:

A lot tech companies in the US are in the find out phase. They all shedded workers to prop up stock thinking they could just get them back.

Now Canada is trying to get tech workers up there, seeing 10k applications in 48 hours as they offer visas and paths to citizenship. Unknown how many will be fired but looks like there is a real push for Canada to grew their tech section, and raiding the talented US workers seems like a great way to get them.

Expected that as companies grow their AI divisions these workers will be in very limited supply and very high demand. Almost all real AI work is at the PhD level, in math, CS or statistics, so the talent pool is extremely small as well. And companies that feel degrees do not equal knowledge, end up looking like Twitter and seeing their systems fail entirely.

We are heading into a recession, the best companies will poach the best people they can and if they have to offer WFH they will.
The idea that everyone is going to leave their job and head to companies with WFH policies is laughable.

There are more job cuts to come, I promise.

This recession we are always heading into never seems to actually come...

Maybe the rest of the world enters one again, but no signs the US is entering into a true recession.

Jul 26, 2023 3:00:53 GMT c said:

This recession we are always heading into never seems to actually come...

Maybe the rest of the world enters one again, but no signs the US is entering into a true recession.

Here's the kicker, everyone is in a recession 6 months before the figures show it...
We here are sliding into a recession for sure.

Jul 26, 2023 1:05:52 GMT iNCY said:

Jul 26, 2023 0:39:57 GMT @admin said:

My company has been holding a full time return to office over our heads for a while now but they've finally ceded and officially made two WFH days a week the ongoing policy - I got a great kick out of our CEOs begrudging tone in the email. I actually quite like my job but I would have started to look elsewhere if they'd taken WFH away completely, instead onwards we go to get that long service leave!

I can't believe when the bank announced recently that they wanted full time in the office, the union kicked up because Mother's would be adversely impacted and have to pay for childcare.

If you're "WFH" and also have small children at home, you are working part time at best during business hours.
If you have project work that can be done any time, then who cares... But this is a bank with office hours

Yeah by all reports banks have been doing it incredibly difficult lately so it would be a real shame to see them have to part with any of those mega profits.

What's stopping all these companies offering WFH from just off-shoring everything to the cheapest option?

Public perception? Maybe.

I'm sure the shareholders wouldn't mind seeing a positive shift in profitability from eliminating a local workforce and all of the associated entitlements.

If you're crunching numbers from the bedroom, there's absolutely no reason a kid in India or China can't do the same for a fraction of the price.

Jul 26, 2023 3:06:49 GMT iNCY said:

Jul 26, 2023 3:00:53 GMT c said:

This recession we are always heading into never seems to actually come...

Maybe the rest of the world enters one again, but no signs the US is entering into a true recession.

Here's the kicker, everyone is in a recession 6 months before the figures show it...
We here are sliding into a recession for sure.

But every quarter for the last two years people said the next quarter would be a recession.  And GDP still up in the US.  As are jobs, consumer confidence, overall production is, corporate profits are at record levels and is up and spending is up.  No markers of recession at all here.  Almost all financial firms dropped the risk of recession last month, and are predict strong growth this holiday season and into 2024.

Jul 26, 2023 5:46:55 GMT NATH45 said:

What's stopping all these companies offering WFH from just off-shoring everything to the cheapest option?

Public perception? Maybe.

I'm sure the shareholders wouldn't mind seeing a positive shift in profitability from eliminating a local workforce and all of the associated entitlements.

If you're crunching numbers from the bedroom, there's absolutely no reason a kid in India or China can't do the same for a fraction of the price.

Job skills and mastery of English.  Most of the people working in these jobs have skills that people offshore just cannot do, usually relating to specific markets that they are embedded in.  And of course good old fashioned racism of people not wanting to deal with non-Westerns on the video conferencing or telephone.  Most of the WFH jobs deal with clients, and they simply do not want to deal with indians or asians with native accents.  Likely do not want to even deal with the westernized ones too.

Almost everyone that could be shifted offshores already has been.  

America there is a secondary reason too.  They move offshores, Congress and States can cut their welfare, aka tax breaks, which is often in billions for major companies.  Simply not worth the risk moving overseas when the tax breaks are factored in.

Jul 26, 2023 5:49:40 GMT c said:

Jul 26, 2023 5:46:55 GMT NATH45 said:

What's stopping all these companies offering WFH from just off-shoring everything to the cheapest option?

Public perception? Maybe.

I'm sure the shareholders wouldn't mind seeing a positive shift in profitability from eliminating a local workforce and all of the associated entitlements.

If you're crunching numbers from the bedroom, there's absolutely no reason a kid in India or China can't do the same for a fraction of the price.

Job skills and mastery of English.  Most of the people working in these jobs have skills that people offshore just cannot do, usually relating to specific markets that they are embedded in.  

Almost everyone that could be shifted offshores already has been.  

America there is a secondary reason too.  They move offshores, Congress and States can cut their welfare, aka tax breaks, which is often in billions for major companies.  Simply not worth the risk moving overseas when the tax breaks are factored in.

Yeah, that makes sense.

Jul 26, 2023 5:22:28 GMT @admin said:

Jul 26, 2023 1:05:52 GMT iNCY said:

I can't believe when the bank announced recently that they wanted full time in the office, the union kicked up because Mother's would be adversely impacted and have to pay for childcare.

If you're "WFH" and also have small children at home, you are working part time at best during business hours.
If you have project work that can be done any time, then who cares... But this is a bank with office hours

Yeah by all reports banks have been doing it incredibly difficult lately so it would be a real shame to see them have to part with any of those mega profits.

Banks are supposed to make a profit for their shareholders, don't like it? Join a credit union or buy shares in the bank.

I don't get this one eyed pro WFH stuff.
Most of my clients are in manufacturing, there is no WFH.
If you business centres around the production of something or around opening hours then it's fair you should be required to show up.

If your work is intangible and can be done at any hour of the day or night, that's fine... My point is that you wouldn't want to seem dispensable with a whole lot of economic factors on the horizon.

Set stronger expectations, tougher KPIs and performance manage out the delinquents who demand to WFH.

Then rehire with the emphasis on a face-to-face, in person/office culture that has a solid foundation set in quality 1:1 time with senior leaders and mentoring, leading to accelerated professional growth and succession within the business.

Commbank: " get back to the office "

www.news.com.au/finance/business/banking/union-asks-fair-work-commission-to-block-commbanks-returntooffice-order/news-story/98560ced5425cbce7057138faa38224f%3famp

Workers: " yeah, nah. WFH bruh! "

Commbank: " ok, 250 of you are fired. "

www.news.com.au/finance/business/banking/not-taken-lightly-commonwealth-bank-to-axe-250-positions/news-story/d5c766052abecc59a0580c4fe873530f

Jul 26, 2023 5:46:55 GMT NATH45 said:

What's stopping all these companies offering WFH from just off-shoring everything to the cheapest option?

Public perception? Maybe.

I'm sure the shareholders wouldn't mind seeing a positive shift in profitability from eliminating a local workforce and all of the associated entitlements.

If you're crunching numbers from the bedroom, there's absolutely no reason a kid in India or China can't do the same for a fraction of the price.

Have you ever worked with off-shore teams? I have and it can be quite miserable. Some can be ok to work with but most of the time you get what you pay for. Plus, the off-shore workers are constantly leaving to new jobs so there's no continuity and you're always training new people, which is a blackhole for productivity.

Jul 26, 2023 9:16:55 GMT NATH45 said:

Set stronger expectations, tougher KPIs and performance manage out the delinquents who demand to WFH.

Then rehire with the emphasis on a face-to-face, in person/office culture that has a solid foundation set in quality 1:1 time with senior leaders and mentoring, leading to accelerated professional growth and succession within the business.

Then you would also have to rehire those senior leaders who are pissed off that they now have to mentor new people.  Moreso if men have to mentor women.

Jul 26, 2023 18:38:44 GMT c said:

Jul 26, 2023 9:16:55 GMT NATH45 said:

Set stronger expectations, tougher KPIs and performance manage out the delinquents who demand to WFH.

Then rehire with the emphasis on a face-to-face, in person/office culture that has a solid foundation set in quality 1:1 time with senior leaders and mentoring, leading to accelerated professional growth and succession within the business.

Then you would also have to rehire those senior leaders who are pissed off that they now have to mentor new people.  Moreso if men have to mentor women.

Silly me expecting people to do the job they were doing up until mid 2020.

The mentoring of women won't be an issue, nor should it be. The companies combating WFH challenges aren't exactly redneck conservatives managing cattle yards. We're largely talking about metropolitan based, white collar, progressive organisations. I think you're the only one to try to make that a point.