Dec 17, 2023 13:38:42 GMT RT said:

Here's the thing: AEW/ROH doesn't really have that many titles when you think about it. The roster is huge and they spread the titles out so that they aren't all featured on every show.

The problem is that because ROH doesn't have its own TV deal and Tony Khan thinks the fans want to see ROH content (they don't), they feature titles fans don't care about or don't want to see as often as they are. If you remove ROH from the equation, AEW has fewer titles than WWE does. The WWE has 3 men's world titles right now. They have 3 tag team titles to AEW's 2. The only thing AEW has more of is mid-card singles titles, which I'll give you now that the Continental Championship is apparently going to be a thing. I don't know why they are doing that on top of the International Championship and TNT Championship. I thought it was going to be an annual award, like AEW's mini version of the G1 or King of the Ring. I don't get it. If you want a mid-card title that can travel to other promotions, take the fucking International title off Orange Cassidy already.

I think TK finally listened to the fans given recent events, and we won't be seeing ROH titles on AEW TV anymore, or at least very little. The ROH World title, yeah, fine, because of the whole Triple Crown thing, but I'm willing to let that slide for now. But the TV title got vacated and awarded at Final Battle, the Women's title has never been featured in AEW and probably won't any time soon, and the Pure title rarely made an appearance and has really only been defended at ROH shows.

If going forward they stop featuring ROH titles on AEW TV, we won't be seeing this complaint anymore. At least until they add the AEW Pacific Championship, the AEW Eurasian Championship and the AEW Antarctic Championship.

EDIT: And I just realized, why the fuck did he reveal the ROH Women's Television Championship after Collision? Final Battle was literally the night before. AND they had a huge Survival of the Fittest Match to determine the new TV champion. Why didn't he reveal it before or after that match? The fuck?

I dunno, we could always use a meaty meat Championship.

They wanted the focus on Billie and Athena not a new title that the loser of the match could just go for instead.

Now a MEAT belt is something I could get behind. That is at least original.

And you know what, that Women's TV belt should have been a pure women's belt. They could have started a second division. And pure matches while a bit wonky are not that hard to work at all. Just got to basics a lot more.

Dec 17, 2023 13:38:42 GMT RT said:

Here's the thing: AEW/ROH doesn't really have that many titles when you think about it. The roster is huge and they spread the titles out so that they aren't all featured on every show.

The problem is that because ROH doesn't have its own TV deal and Tony Khan thinks the fans want to see ROH content (they don't), they feature titles fans don't care about or don't want to see as often as they are. If you remove ROH from the equation, AEW has fewer titles than WWE does. The WWE has 3 men's world titles right now. They have 3 tag team titles to AEW's 2. The only thing AEW has more of is mid-card singles titles, which I'll give you now that the Continental Championship is apparently going to be a thing. I don't know why they are doing that on top of the International Championship and TNT Championship. I thought it was going to be an annual award, like AEW's mini version of the G1 or King of the Ring. I don't get it. If you want a mid-card title that can travel to other promotions, take the fucking International title off Orange Cassidy already.

I think TK finally listened to the fans given recent events, and we won't be seeing ROH titles on AEW TV anymore, or at least very little. The ROH World title, yeah, fine, because of the whole Triple Crown thing, but I'm willing to let that slide for now. But the TV title got vacated and awarded at Final Battle, the Women's title has never been featured in AEW and probably won't any time soon, and the Pure title rarely made an appearance and has really only been defended at ROH shows.

If going forward they stop featuring ROH titles on AEW TV, we won't be seeing this complaint anymore. At least until they add the AEW Pacific Championship, the AEW Eurasian Championship and the AEW Antarctic Championship.

EDIT: And I just realized, why the fuck did he reveal the ROH Women's Television Championship after Collision? Final Battle was literally the night before. AND they had a huge Survival of the Fittest Match to determine the new TV champion. Why didn't he reveal it before or after that match? The fuck?

I am playing it up somewhat and acknowledge that different strokes for different folks and AEW is like NJPW where it's a belt territory. Still, this just comes across as a typical case of putting the cart before the horses. Hardly anybody on social media talks about ROH and when they do it's about Athena-Billy Starks. So instead of allowing that to be the focus and to have everyone go after Athena, they've decided to clutter things by adding another title into the mix.

Which is one of the issues with AEW right now. Technically the WWE has more titles, but it's not as cluttered because of unifications and the brand split. It's three singles titles on each brand, with the tag belts being defended on both shows (even then, primarily on RAW). Good luck being invested in an AEW Championship when there's 8 titles defended across three shows with sporadic appearances from ROH, NJPW, AAA etc. thrown into the mix.

It just makes it so difficult to build anticipation because you get a guy like Swerve, you give him two big wins to shine him up and then you throw him into a tournament to essentially compete for the developmental title. 

Timing is everything and like so many other instances in AEW, this feels completely random and messy.

Well we got the info on the Triple Crown finally. It will not always be defended together. Mark vs Eddie announced for Supercard for the RoH title only. And with Okada likely taking the other two belts, I assume this is Mark's time to finally get his RoH run.

Damn, I wish we could see Shida/Athena in an AEW ring.

Better done in RoH. Should headline the show and they will get whatever time they need. Never would happen on an AEW main show. Even if Mark and Eddie end up headlining, it is clear that Athena and Shida will be a co-main event as that women's title is presented as the top title of the company with Athena's amazing reign.

I am curious what Shida working stiff will look like as Athena seems to want everyone at their hardest.

I get what you are you saying though, I wish we could get 20-30 minute athena matches in AEW headlining shows, but realistically it would be 10 minute Athena matches mostly occurring during TV breaks or used as comedown matches.  And it is stupid, as Athena is one of the top workers right now, and her work with Billie is top notch.  I assume HHH is going to try to get her back in the future.  Know a bunch of people in WWE are Billie fans too.

Supercard of Honor just got a STARDOM six-woman tag match.

Mina Shirakawa, Maika & Mei Seira vs. Saya Kamitani, Tam Nakano & AZM

ROH World Champion Eddie Kingston defends against Mark Briscoe
ROH Women's Champion Athena defends against Hikaru Shida
ROH TV Champion Kyle Fletcher defends against Lee Johnson
ROH Women's TV Championship tournament finals: Queen Aminata vs. Billie Starkz
Fight Without Honor: Dalton Castle vs. Johnny TV
Mina Shirakawa, Maika, & Mei Seira vs. AZM, Tam Nakano, & Saya Kamitani

Card so far.

Johnny Manynames vs Castle Fight Without Honor (or Boys) announced.

Athena will be defending the ROH women's championship, against Red Velvet at Battle of the Belts X.

Apr 13, 2024 14:53:48 GMT Lony said:

Athena will be defending the ROH women's championship, against Red Velvet at Battle of the Belts X.

3-hour show tonight baby. Should be fun.

BCC vs Hobbs/Fletcher should be good too.

Holy shit! I totally missed the news. Atlantis Jr. is your new ROH Television Champion!

Couple matches added to Death Before Dishonor:

ROH Tag Team Championship
The Kingdom (c) vs Kyle O’Reilly & Tomohiro Ishii

Komander vs The Beast Mortos

Dustin Rhodes and The Von Erichs are ROH Six Man champs. Texas lost their minds. Shibata did the Iron Claw. I fucking love wrestling.

Is this the first time that a new champion was crowned at a Battle of the Belts event?

Jul 28, 2024 3:20:06 GMT CM Punk'd said:

Is this the first time that a new champion was crowned at a Battle of the Belts event?

BOTB 1 - Sammy Guevara def Dustin Rhodes for the vacant TNT title

BOTB 2 - Sammy Guevara def Scorpio Sky for the TNT title

That was it. Basically been an episode of Dark since BOTB 2 until now.

Jul 28, 2024 3:18:05 GMT RT said:

Dustin Rhodes and The Von Erichs are ROH Six Man champs. Texas lost their minds. Shibata did the Iron Claw. I fucking love wrestling.

How long has DR & The Von Erichs been in ROH?

Jul 28, 2024 16:38:47 GMT Ed said:

Jul 28, 2024 3:18:05 GMT RT said:

Dustin Rhodes and The Von Erichs are ROH Six Man champs. Texas lost their minds. Shibata did the Iron Claw. I fucking love wrestling.

How long has DR & The Von Erichs been in ROH?

Since Friday, I think.

Jul 28, 2024 16:38:47 GMT Ed said:

Jul 28, 2024 3:18:05 GMT RT said:

Dustin Rhodes and The Von Erichs are ROH Six Man champs. Texas lost their minds. Shibata did the Iron Claw. I fucking love wrestling.

How long has DR & The Von Erichs been in ROH?

Yeah like CM Punk'd said. Not long. But I love them as a team and hope they keep going.

Mina Shirakawa popped up in RoH tonight.

In all honesty here i truly believe that TK should have had someone run ROH for him OR not buy it at all. ROH was fun before he bought it but if i recall they were gonna fold without him buying it so I guess he saved them but atleast run it right. Why is brian cage an ROH champ, or athena they need to be dynamite champions not roh. Things like that has me like what is TK doing? ROH isn't even televised. Yikes. Thats just me though

It's my biggest issue with AEW. Ideally ROH could be their defacto NXT where their young inexperienced talent gets hands on experience to work on their craft and get themselves over. It would also give another a booker an opportunity to submit their ideas and visions just to see what else can be done with Tony's resources albeit on a smaller scale.

Pro Wrestling fans are ravenous and they constantly need new acts, new ideas, new gimmicks, new storylines to satiate them, so creating that pipeline is a must.

Apparently ROH couldn't be televised because WBD had an exclusive deal with AEW. Once TK bought ROH it fell under that AEW umbrella but was still considered a different entity, or not part of the original contract or something like that.

I'm curious if something will change in the new year when WBD loses that exclusivity. AEW is shopping a new show to FOX, and while I doubt it will be ROH, we could see something happen where ROH runs on one of WBD's affiliates, or they are allowed to start airing on YouTube, or something like that.

I would absolutely love it if ROH became a weekly show on YouTube like Dark was. I would even go one step further and have it be AEW's version of NXT, having an exclusive roster with the odd guest star appearance, running shows at the same small venue each week, or doing residencies in big markets, banking a bunch of episodes then dropping them on a weekly schedule. Go live 15 minutes early and do a recap with Nigel & RJ City or Daddy Magic or whoever, air the show, then go from there.